######### is going on with decisive strike?

Just because you started doing an action, doesn't mean you aren't being tunneled.

So, I get unhooked and try healing myself and here comes the Killer to come find and tunnel me. I'm not being tunneled because I tried to heal myself?

Yes and no. The killer coming back to the hook may mean they wanted to tunnel, but killers often go to hooks because there should be two survivors there - you're guaranteed to find a target and even if you're explicitly avoiding tunneling, you'll still have someone to chase. But if you do that and there's a wounded survivor sitting right under the hook, the only reason to ignore them is to be nice, which doesn't exactly pay dividends in DBD. Doubly so if there isn't another survivor healing them and they're the only person you see.

Healing yourself under the hook, or only a few steps away from the hook, is a risky gamble that relies on the killer being far away or being occupied with another player. If you aren't sure of either of these, you should make some distance from the hook.

But then again... I personally think self-healing shouldn't deactivate DS unless it completes (or to prevent 99s and aggressive behavior, have it deactivate at 33 or 50% of the healing bar), because you're right, you will have killers that follow you off hook, and if they were close enough to start with, you can't get rid of them between your cries and the blood trail. They will pick up chase again. Thinking you have time to heal in some jungle gym corner for a second before the terror radius shows up and closes in on you shouldn't deactivate DS, in my opinion. I'd still consider that tunneling. But while I'd rather that be changed, I can live with it when the nerf got rid of so many more unfair situations than it created.

Let's be even more accurate and clear. Those actions are not actions you should be performing when the killer is chasing you. Therefore, if you perform them, you're not being tunneled.

You're missing the point of my very specific and narrow response. The point is that the timer has nothing to do with actually being tunneled, It continues to count down independent of whether you are in fact being tunneled by the killer right off of the hook. That is incontrovertible.

You explicitly mentioned the actions in your reply. While you do make a fair point about the timer (though there's another reason for it), you did mention the actions.

I mentioned the way the perk currently works, which is 60 seconds or performing certain actions whichever comes first. What exactly was incorrect about that? Now I agree that certain actions should deactivate the perk but I'm not in agreement that the hard fast and furious 60 second timer is the way to go.

Nobody said it was incorrect, I simply said that you did, in fact, reference the conditions and that it did, in fact, look like you were complaining about them. You should've been more specific, we can't read your mind.

Your statement was correct save for 'it has nothing to do with tunneling.' Because it does, both directly and indirectly. Paring something down to lines of code doesn't change that the design was based around the actions that constitute or don't constitute tunneling, inasmuch as tunneling has an agreed-upon definition, and pretending they're entirely unrelated because DS isn't written to say 'this perk is active if you're being tunneled and turns off if you're not' is disingenuous. Tunneling doesn't exist in a way that the game could codify this, hence why we got the list of actions that we did. It's an approximation that's trying to be as accurate as possible - and in most cases it is accurate, hence why it's not misleading to say that DS stays active or deactivates based on whether or not you're being tunneled. Yes, you can heal for half a second before the killer shows reaches you and it'll deactivate despite pressure never being taken off you. Yes, it stays active when you're wandering around doing nothing and you can use it 45 seconds later if you run straight into them despite them having a chase with someone else in between. But for the most part... the people who complain about DS not working anymore are the ones who were using it as an aggressive perk, and the ones that still use it just fine are the ones who were using it as an anti-tunnel perk.

The timer can run out while you're still being tunneled, yes. I don't disagree with that. But if you run the killer for a minute on one health state, you're doing very well by the standards of the game. That could be 3 gens mostly done in the background. You also have the ability to make a misplay towards the end of the timer if you feel like your chase is about to end naturally, going down (convincingly) at around 50 seconds so the killer will pick you up, get DSed, and you have another head start to work with.

Yes, but your reply was framed in a way that incorrectly addressed the reference. You offered an unnecessary explanation and opinion to something that was never raised. I never mentioned anything other than the cold hard fact that DS works for 60s or when certain actions are performed, whichever comes first.

right, but you're not being tunneled if you are able to do those actions

I've been able to tap a gen (use Repressed Alliance) or even fully heal during a post-rescue chase but that didn't mean I wasn't being tunneled. I'm not arguing that you should be able to do those things and retain DS, I understand that the game needed to try and narrow the scope of the perk's reach. I am just pointing out that you can perform those actions during a tunnel.