Any counter plays going against spirit?

Or there is the secret option of running Iron Will and No Mither.

Sounds more like your getting busted by bbq if i read it like that.

Other possibilities are that you may be injured and she has the add on where she sees blood but no scratches.

Or she hears you while you're injured, or even close to you while she phase when you go into a locker.

There's a change she has surveillance and just knows you're there because you work on a gen she kicked.

Imo she doesn't need further nerfs, the only thing they could ad without destroying her ( that's what most people want), is giving her a little animation or sound cue when she starts phasing.

Haven't touched dbd in about 2 months now but I personally haven't seen much spirits when I still played.

As far as I know there haven't been any changes on her, so if there is indeed an increase in spirits then I wonder why.

Could also be an platform specific thing where there are more spirits or region thing.

But there are multiple ways to counter her.

Most important is to remember roughly when she used her powers.

It's a thing many fall for eventhough she literally just used it.

When she uses her power you can run back the exact way you came from, start walking or start walking in a different direction.

When vaulting a window, slow vault back, and the next time you fast vault a window again just walk away from the window as she might think you slow vault back.

Same with pallets.

Run to a pallet but stay at the side you came from and drop it.

She might think you're on the other side and thus waisting time while you run back where you came from.

Drop a pallet and slow vault back over it and choose whatever you want from there.

During a chase in the open and she's phasing, just stop and crouch and continue.

She might think you ran back where you came from.

As soon as she appears again and you haven't had a spot to hide, just start running again.

Those are some of the thinks I use but make sure you stay unpredictable and mix it all up.

You do that and she becomes confused and start second guessing almost everything she does, which leads to her making bad reads and most likely losing the match.

Personally i never understand all the cries about spirit.

I love killers where you need to think outside of the box and have to work for a change to escape.

She's really not that bad and I recommend what I recommend to everyone.

If you have problems with a certain killer, just play multiple matches as that killer in the red and purple ranks.

See how they counter her, learn what her weaknesses are.

That's the best way to fully understand a particular killer. 😉

No one does that, just like looking at Meyers' hands to see it he has Tombstone or not.

You can't counter a killer who gives no indication as to when she uses her power. Therefore, any action you do is just a pure guess, not counterplay. Counterplay is reacting to what the opposing team is doing. For example, Huntress pulling up her hatchet. You can react to that.

Spirit gives you nothing to react to. Bad spirit players are why people think she has counterplay.

Most of the things people will suggest won't work if the Spirit is any good. It's one of the main reasons people think she needs to be nerfed. They repeatedly try things that won't ever work and fail to realize that maybe it's because those aren't the things they should be doing against a good Spirit.

Don't try to slow vault back after a fast vault. Your scratch marks stop and your character grunts when you slow vault. It will never fool a good Spirit. What you should be trying instead is a delayed vault. The Spirit is listening for you and has a finite amount of charge. At a certain point she has to commit to once side a window or the other. The timing takes practice and if you kind of have to play a bit of Spirit to know it. Run up to the window and stop with enough space to get a fast vault. Wait, bait out the commit, and fast vault. Think of it like a stop and go.

When you break line of sight, you need to walk or crouch away from obvious spots in the tile. Don't completely put yourself out of position, but you won't do yourself much good if you path predictably in spite of blocking LOS. Contrary to popular belief, Spirit can't hear healthy idle breathing from across the map with good headphones. 8 meters is the hard cut-off if you're healthy and not running.

General rule of thumb is to make distance, break LOS, and stop leaving scratch marks if you're healthy. If you're injured, distance>break LOS>create a 50/50.

She has an idle animation reset when she starts to phase. It is absolutely 100% false that she has no tell on her phase. I can provide examples of the animation change if you want.

She can't track you with stridor if you never get found to get hit. Blend until you become part of the scenery.

So let me get this right.

Basically what you're saying is that when spirit stops mid chase you just keep running?

Don't get me wrong here, but if everyone plays like that than I'm not surprised people complain about her.

Sorry but if she stops mid chase (especially in the open) you react to her.

And if you have a bit of distance from her, which you always have at some point, you can hear her phase sound.

It's not as loud as when you're out of her TR but you can hear it none the less.

You don't hear it when you're close to hear, that's why you don't work on a gen in hear TR for example.

But sure mindgaming isn't a counter, you keep telling yourself that.

You use that more than you think against other killers than you think.

Apparently than I have, according to you, only played against bad spirits.

Yes when someone plays spirit a lot than your survival possibilities will decrease.

But that goes for every single killer.

If i play as wraith than your survival possibility will decrease than when i play as for example as pig.

People who say spirit has no counters are either people who follow the mass and yell whatever they do without trying to play and try to find it for themselves, or are just not so good as they think or just what easy games.

But again, sure apparently I only play against bad spirits then 🤷‍♂️

Go back while she's in her phase.

I was being sarcastic.

It makes you completely silent against even Stridor.

That's what I'm saying it only works against Spirit

No, I do not play like that, and neither does everyone.

Well if you start walking when she stops mid chase, she can still hear you breathing and hear your footsteps as well, so it won't really do anything and you will still get hit. If she stops mid chase, you react to that and nothing else. So ok, she stopped mid chase and she is probably phasing, but you do not know her exact location and exactly when she started to phase. Some spirits might stop for a second to see what direction you run in, or what you start to do when they see you phase. But it doesn't matter, she has cues to find you during her phase, you are given nothing to figure out where she is.

If I hear her phase sound when she is going after me, what does that do for me exactly? All I would know is that she is phasing for sure, but I still don't have anything worthwhile to not get hit other than guess what she will do.

Yeah, let me just fake going this way and walk back- nvm she can hear me breathing and my footsteps.

All you are doing against her is making educated guesses, and the spirit player making a mistake is not counterplay.

People who say she has no counterplay may be following the masses, but they are still right in this case.