I'm Really Tired of Being Bottom Score When the Killer Chases Me All Game

Point caps are worthless. When I get maxed out on Objective and can't get an unhook because of people farming or I get chased all match and max out boldness in the first two minutes it makes me wonder why I even bother playing survivor outside of tome challenges.

Gaining bloodpoints as a survivor is actually easier than one thinks, even if you get chased most of the game.

People just often don't realize that the VAST majority of survivor points are not gained from performing individual actions, but rather from performing those actions with someone else. In fact, you can technically cap out your objective score from doing a single generator if you really wanted to - even without Prove Thyself.

Here's an example, with me completing a single generator at the start of the game as the killer gets his first hook:

You'll notice two things:

• I got 5,000 points from repairing a single generator - 75% of which came from co-operative points.
• Despite what I said earlier, I have Prove Thyself.

Ignore Prove Thyself for a second, and just appreciate the large number of co-operative points relative to the generator 1,250 generator points which I'm going to otherwise ignore. Steve there joined me on the generator a little late, and I actually should have gotten 4,000 co-operative points. The reason for this is because doing a full generator with someone else gives you 2,000 points per person you're working with, and Prove Thyself just doubles it. If I worked with two other people I would have gotten 4,000 co-operative points without Prove Thyself, and 8,000 with it.

Similarly, if I worked with all three other survivors (good luck with that) on a single generator I would get 6,000 co-operative points, or 12,000 with Prove Thyself. Talk about overkill.

The same system works for healing, where you get 400 additional co-operative points healing with someone else (in addition to the 500 base you get for just healing in general - totaling 900 for a single heal with someone else). If I had Prove Thyself that would be 800 co-op points from a single heal, and 1,300 overall with the base points included.

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The point I'm trying to make is that you really don't need much effort to max out the other categories if you try to perform actions co-operatively in your downtime. Even one generator with another person without prove thyself nearly gets you half of the available objective points you could possibly achieve in a match.

If you're literally being tunneled so hard that you can't do anything else, that does suck. That said, it might be an indicator that you need to up your stealthiness a little at some point in the game or otherwise try to avoid the killers detection by playing safe even if only for a short while.

If it helps:

I personally do a totem at the start of the game, let someone get chased, then use Bond to find someone on a generator and complete it with them. If i have Prove Thyself on, I'm basically capped out on the first gen and can do whatever the heck I want after that (such as play with the killer all game). If I don't have Prove Thyself on, I can still do whatever I want but just need to make sure I stop by a gen again later for a bit.

I'm not going to argue the system is perfect, good, poor, or otherwise. I'm just stating that you can easily max out your categories by working with others.

I also personally haven't met too many people that run away from me when I want to work with them. That said, I don't usually meet many that go out of their way to work with me either. That's another reason I typically hunt for totems earlier, it lets me know who is where and where to go. Bond definitely helps in this regard too, but it's not necessary either.

Edit:

I'll add that in my screenshot and original post, I implied that Steve joined the generator late. While this is true, he was actually doing a totem in the back room that I wanted and I only started working on the generator because I anticipated he would join me. If he didn't, I would have left.

Yeah, i had this just now. Killer found me first, chased something around 60-90 seconds, he runned after me thru half of whole map, and lost 2,5 gens on my first hook. Then i was tunneled and dead after something around 3,5 gens done. And i dont mind, he killed me so i guess it is good strategy. :) But i also lost rank, and thats not cool. What more could i do? Clearly there was no one else to save or help, i cannot do gens or anything really. I was dead, because he found me first. Thats it.

If someone is on hook 3 times in a row, there should be no rank drop and some bonus BP would be also nice.

As a Killer Main - I 100% agree. Farming BP as killer is as easy as it can get, especially with BBQ. Potentially getting 64k BP (I get around 40-45k on avg. in my matches with BBQ) versus 15-20k as survivor is huge.

Given how much there is to unlock by now in this game the BP gain of survivors is laughable at best.

You shouldn't care about ranks too much in this game. Rankings are a complete joke in DbD and nowhere near representative. Took me literally 40 hours (as a new player) to reach red ranks as Killer. And the matches in red ranks still felt like I was playing against bots half of the time while the other half felt like I was playing against the gods of looping and gen rushing.

Well, my friend, when you play mostly survivor with random people and then you die several times on first hook because none of your green friends saved you, exactly at this point you care about playing in higher ranks... :D

Identity V has a point transfer system and for a game BHVR assisted on, I am baffled on how we haven't gotten the point transfer system yet (When capping out one category, it'll transfer your points into an empty category to encourage maintaining that objective)

So the solution is that you need to let the killer catch and hook you before the gens are done?

I do understand your frustration. Had the same happen to me yesterday because two green randoms decided to heal in the other corner of the map while I was dying on my second hook. I died before anybody could reach me...

On the other hand you can just look at it as an opportunity to get better at looping. Green Rank killers are typically pretty bad and easy to loop. So they either have to chase you or let go and chase someone else. Sure, if the decide to tunnel you then you'll die eventually because you'll run out of options but that'll cost him the game and it's pretty rare to encounter killers who absolutely tunnel vision on only one survivor. At least in my experience.

That'd being said I mostly play killer but I've been getting into playing more survivor as of late because playing killer at red ranks at around 7-10pm sometimes tilts the living f out of me :D

Man, don't give the devs new ideas for stupid survivor perks. :D

Inb4

"NEW PERK

Hardcore Mechanic Expertise

While being chased by the killer, you'll still be able to repair a random, unfinished, generator at 30% the normal speed. Hitting a great skill check while being chased will grant you a speed boost for 0.5/1/1.5 seconds."

The scoring system isn't the only problem here. The other three either didn't pip or barely safety pip during that. The survivor scoring system is too reliant on survivor killer interactions.

In those 90%, did all or most of the survivors die? Were there a lot of DCs and/or suicides? What were their ranks? How did those killers play? What about the 10%?

Your data is sorely lacking in details that would affect its interpretation, and your conclusion that the devs made killer "easier to play" says a lot about your biased perspective. If you want to look at your data critically and without bias, then you need to gather (and share) a lot more information than average scores.

Kinda off topic, but I was the one who brought it up, so fair enough

Freddy isn't op, just very, very, very simple and boring. That's it. I'm more clowing on you for your points, as they boil down to "You don't deserve more points because I believe you play 'the easy side'". This is a silly argument, as people have always said how the emblem system and survivors BP gain is terrible.

Also find it funny how I'm now a survivor main, I guess this is my coming out day.

As a killer main, i agree, survivors should get more BP.

Ideally the amount of bloodpoints you get should be tied to the emblems. That way if you get chased all game, you still get objective points as a survivor because your team is doing the objective. Additionally, you should also get points for staying hidden from the the killer. If i do gens all game because the killer won't chase me, i also should get more points for that.

Happened to me yesterday almost every game.... Ran the killer for 3-4 gens (because rankroulettereset scooped me back to rank 18 for whatever reason) only to discover that 95% of killers in green ranks run NOED and everyone insta leaves resulting with me dying on my first hook. Fun times...

Except killers can freely choose to not chase a survivor and do other things, while a survivor has pretty much no way to no longer be chased, so if the killer crushes on you, there's no way to do anything else than being chased.