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Perks with unnecessary downsides: Spies From The Shadows
I'm going to start a series, or whatever you want to call it, of posts about perks that never get used, or get used rarely, because they have ridiculous downsides. And this is going to be covering survivor and killer perks. Perhaps this will be enlightening to people who ask, "Why does everyone just run meta perks?"
First off is Spies From The Shadows. Spies alerts the killer of a survivor's location when they disturb crows.
There's a range requirement on this perk for some reason. A survivor who disturbs crows needs to be within 36 meters of you for you to get the notification of where they are. This limits a lot of its utility, because why is it not full-map detection? If it was, it could be a makeshift Lethal Pursuer, one of the new Nemesis killer's perks. But back to the range number: 36. 32 meters is the standard killer's terror radius, so unless you get lucky that the survivors are in that small 4-meter range where they can't hear you but can still trigger this perk, or that the survivors are dumb and will disturb crows while trying to hide in the killer's terror radius, this perk won't do anything. Smart survivors who actually want to hide themselves know to look out for crows and not disturb them, especially when within the killer's terror radius, which is pretty much the only area this can activate in.
On top of this, Spies has a cooldown of 5 seconds. Why is there a cooldown? Would that make it OP if there was no cooldown? I think not. More likely the reasoning for putting a cooldown on this perk was so that you wouldn't be bombarded with sound cues. But honestly, if you know what you're doing as killer, this shouldn't bother you. If you're in a chase with a survivor or something, Spies making a noise notification usually won't deter you, unless you really need to know in that moment where other survivors are.
I think these downsides make the perk practically useless.
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technician shouldn't even have any downside it's stupid lol
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My favorite part is it used to not even have that downside. They looked back at that perk and then decided it needed a pretty big downside when literally only babies and adept Fengs use it lol.
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Yep, Technician shouldn't add additional regression.
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I imagine when most people think of perks with unnecessary downsides they gravitate towards perks with bizarre cooldowns. Perks like Thrilling Tremors, Visionary, and Oppression, but before any of these perks are brought up I'd just like to take the time to say.
📢Dragon's Grip has two cooldowns📢
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The cooldown isn’t actually a downside. It’s to prevent being spammed by notifications when survivors run past 10 crows.
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If we're discussing blight's perks then I'd start with blood favour which is almost all downsides, there's barely any perk in there at all
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To be honest, I can't even remember the last time I used this perk.
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- Remember Me
- Dying Light
- Surge
- Cruel Limits
- Hex: Blood Favor
Why the ######### does Blood Favor has two cooldowns, a basic attack requirement, a 16 meters radius and it's a HEX PERK
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IMO, keep the CD + limited range and give it a more meaningful effect. Unlimited range is too powerful and quite honestly annoying. Make the crow follow the survivor for a while like the AFK crows do.
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Nobody runs that though.
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That's what I said. But in that same breath, it makes it to where you only hear some* of the notifications, which brings a risk of making you not hear a notification that you really need, like of survivors disturbing crows that are next to a gen that's almost finished. If you don't hear that notification when you were waiting to hear it, that gen is gone just because of the cooldown of this perk.
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I think information perks are kind of overrated. People assume that because you know where a survivor is, you will get them down guaranteed and quickly, and that's just not true.
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