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Anybody else concerned about the abusability of the auto-ban bot?

HulkRogan
HulkRogan Member Posts: 46

I think that the auto-ban bot will not be a good idea. I believe that it should exist but it should not be allowed to punish. I think it will be too easy to abuse just like the one in League of Legends. My idea for it is that once you reach a certain number of reports, it should flag you to the support team. The bot should not be allowed to carry out punishment due to the abusability of the system.

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  • Sup3rCatTree
    Sup3rCatTree Member Posts: 588

    Yeah, I feel like they will falsely ban people and it will have an issue

  • HulkRogan
    HulkRogan Member Posts: 46

    i play killer a lot and i recently got to rank 1 after a long time of trying. But this is the scariest thing I've seen since the mori nerf.

  • bjorksnas
    bjorksnas Member Posts: 5,608

    all I think that the auto ban bot should do is mark people who are reported a decent amount over a short period of time then review them manually that way the workload of reading every single report is lowered but they still have some automation \

    having a judge jury and executioner bot doesn't sound like the best idea

  • WexlerWendigo
    WexlerWendigo Member Posts: 1,867
    edited May 2021

    People are overreacting, I think. Let’s see how it works first. It could be that it takes 20 reports in 10 games or something to autoban. It’ll be tested before coming out, I’m sure.

  • ShamelessPigMain
    ShamelessPigMain Member Posts: 1,877

    They didn't divulge many details about how such a system would work. Let's hope BHVR takes a look at the quality of the player populace and makes it less player dependent.

  • HulkRogan
    HulkRogan Member Posts: 46

    in that case then it's 1 SWF and you're done. I think it should only flag people who are reported A LOT.

  • TWiXT
    TWiXT Member Posts: 2,063

    Every time a Killer wins a game, it's another nail in their coffin, at one point the coffin fully nails shut, and the player gets a penalty ban.


    You can't convince me that this isn't the way the system will actually be used. BHVR really shot themselves in the foot with this idea. Players should never be given the power to choose who gets banned. Players are spiteful, petty, entitled brats who want to make the game easier for themselves, so while the heart of the idea was in the right place... the actual utility of it will result in becoming the worst incentive to play Killer at all.

  • bjorksnas
    bjorksnas Member Posts: 5,608

    then just theorize a version that doesn't allow that

    heres a theoretical

    lets just say the threshold for the system is at 5 reports in a rolling 2 week period or 20 in a 3 month period, swf unless all 4 report the killer only counts as 1 grouped report, if all 4 players report it counts as 2 reports, once the threshold is reached the account is reviewed manually, if the manually reviewed account seems fine then the accounts that reported them are reviewed to make sure they are not abusing the system

  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,167

    Salt will break the bot

  • ASurvkillivorer
    ASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,849

    THe worst idea ever.

  • Ryan489x
    Ryan489x Member Posts: 1,497

    I could see a lot of abuse of an auto ban feature

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    I have 49 pages of toxic comments on my steam profile. While i´m not a toxic player. Now when i imagine that those people could trigger the ban system just because they feel like it...

    Yeah, thats a big NO for me.

  • xenotimebong
    xenotimebong Member Posts: 2,803

    I thought the exact same thing, horrible idea. Prepare to get banned for:

    • playing an unpopular killer (good luck Spirit mains)
    • camping
    • teabagging
    • being good

    Behaviour can tell people that camping, tunnelling and teabagging are not bannable as many times as they want, people absolutely will get mass reported for this stuff.

  • Hex_Llama
    Hex_Llama Member Posts: 1,831

    I'm concerned, too, but we don't know how the system works yet. They might put measures in place to stop it from being abused -- like maybe if you report too many people it backfires and counts as a strike against you.

  • ZonkyWizard
    ZonkyWizard Member Posts: 568

    Can someone provide me with some information on how the autoban thingy is gonna work? Got no idea.

  • HulkRogan
    HulkRogan Member Posts: 46
  • Dbdswitchisok
    Dbdswitchisok Member Posts: 30
    edited May 2021

    The most worrying part for me is that people will get raged and ban people for no reason. Like, don't get me wrong, as a survivor main camping and tunneling is a little bit annoying but people don't deserve being banned for it. Also what causes a ban? Cheating? But again no matter who you are let's be real, we know there will be some trolls and people who get triggered and camping and tunneling so they will attempt to ban them. I am mainly worried that people will be banned for no reason and there is no confirmation if what they did in the match was Cheating or Camping e.t.c. It's just crazy

  • jester20k
    jester20k Member Posts: 827

    They might be bsing even, hoping that just the idea that you might be banned will make you not be a douche. Whatever it takes to drop the toxicity level would be nice imo.

  • Samtar
    Samtar Member Posts: 13

    Yup, I have never seen any game where an automatic ban system wasnt abusable.

  • Kilmeran
    Kilmeran Member Posts: 3,142
    edited May 2021

    It's going to end up abused. BHVR can say what they want about tunneling and camping and such not being banable, people will just report around that. Killer camped or Survivor teabagged? Just claim abusive endgame chat, instead.

    The autoban system is abused even in Overwatch, a game created by Blizzard with a lot more resources and players. Not Hero switching over there is not reportable, yet Top500 players of Heroes like Torb have been banned on live stream due to reports for playing Torb in high ranked games. And they one-tricked Torb all the way to a Top500 placement, so they knew how to play the character effectively in such matches.

    Teammates didn't like the hero choice, so reported and eventually banned. Yes, the ban got overturned eventually, but it was still a hassle.

    It'll be the same fiasco here. Unless BHVR has the programmers and resources to do it far better than Blizzard did.

  • Bambizzle
    Bambizzle Member Posts: 15

    The amount of survivors complaining about tunneling is now scary. Even though it is a strategy and there are perks to counter it. Now you'll get banned for playing. How are wraith mains going to get any kills now lol