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Good job survivors(rant)

latinfla4
latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119
edited May 2021 in General Discussions

4 PM decided to play some killer and enjoy myself...somehow I am getting paired with 2 to 3 red ranks every match tbagging and trolling and it is not even evening hours...you win matchmaking. I am a rank 20 survivor with a claudette loaded with meta perks (rank reset since I usually don't play survivor). I plan to pay it forward but don't worry I will make sure the killer kills me after everyone else escapes...that is my mission i don't want to pip up and will enjoy making killers sweat😎 update...just helped a 3 man escape with a key I brought in and led them to the hatch..stayed for killer to kill me this is fun

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  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    Yup it isn't getting fixed and I want to have fun again so why fight it the sweats showed me the error of playing killer don't want the money I spent on the game to go to waste

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    I don't want to rank up...as killer I just wanted to be matched vs my own ranks and it has been months of getting trolled and bullied I just reached my breaking point...so like i said i am paying it forward it is just a game after all and ranks don't matter as I have been told.

  • CantDeadHarder
    CantDeadHarder Member Posts: 188

    if everyone had this mindset, nobody would play the game. Everyone would purposely derank to get more "fun" matches. I understand that high level gameplay can get boring since you kind of have to run certain perks to win and it gets repetitive, but I assure you deranking only adds fuel to the fire. No rank would have "fun" matches in the end, as everyone has deranked.

  • Predated
    Predated Member Posts: 2,976

    Ah yes, because your money is being wasted if you get outmatched. You still play the game, you still play the content, even if the content you play isnt what you enjoy. You're essentially "wasting" other peoples money because you played against people who disagree with you on the way the game needs to be played.

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    But killers already aren't playing the game as much because of what I have described. Don't worry I won't play evenings it is too much of a lobby simulator right now..i am going to use all the hatch offerings and keys i have collected and haddonfield maps and just going 2 treat myself...going on a no stress vacation. Maybe afterwards I will look at killer but eh.

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    But the point is to enjoy the game I bought so why not just play survivor and get my money's worth...the killer gets a survivor who will make sure that the others escape and its win win. The killer gits gud quicker and rank up to meet the sweat squads...it is what matchmaking is all about right now😊

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    Those new survivor perks need to be used and a lot no Noed or gen regression on my watch

  • Grandpa_Crack_Pipe
    Grandpa_Crack_Pipe Member Posts: 3,306

    Good job Matchmaking.

    Not sure why you say it like survivors know who they're getting matched up against.

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    Actually as a rank 20 survivor I am getting rank 20 killers so yeah it is the killer matchmaking that is the problem. Update...yeah I am having a blast my teammates survive I get killed to prevent the pip up as much as possible even gave key and lead them to the hatch...this is fun 3 man escapes are glorious🤣

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    Hiding from killers without whispers is hilarious man was I wrong when it happened to me🤣 you patrol that 3 gen

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    Burning those the game maps now with speed burst making the killer chase me and using every pallet as much as possible while they get gen rushed 🤣 man why was I a killer main for so long

  • NeonFlowerPower
    NeonFlowerPower Member Posts: 135

    I'm normally rank 1 btw, but rank reset bug sent me back to rank 10 and I have a full time job so haven't been playing much. Survivors deal with it all the time so it is not just on the killer side.

  • danielmaster87
    danielmaster87 Member Posts: 9,440

    You're cruel.

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    Cruel? Been dumb enough to keep playing killer after ranking to green ranks and getting red ranks constantly. Been trolled at least half of those games so why not pay it forward if there isn't a casual mode not my fault...just playing with what is given to me🤣

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    Yeah I feel you...hated wasting my time not having fun so i am playing survivor for gg ez fun still brown ranks ...I make sure to die after getting as many people to safety and give those killers their one kill

  • pseudechis
    pseudechis Member Posts: 3,904

    So you are angry at red rank survivors for being abusive to you as killer and your solution to this is to go and abuse other killer players in the same way and that's "paying it forward" as you put it.

    You're not cruel, you're childish, and not ready to play competitive games with others.

    We all know that one guy we don't invite to boardgame night because they are an insufferable bad sport, tantrum thrower and sore loser, don't be that guy. Nobody likes that guy.

  • Airless
    Airless Member Posts: 156

    Youre acting really childish right now. Either get better at the game, stop complaning about nonsense, or stop playing

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    I am not angry...i am playing survivor competitively as has been shown to me by sweat squads. Why not it is just a game as people have told me in after game chat...I want ez games as well now...you are welcome to play killer in my absence. I am just preparing killers to the next level😎

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119
    edited May 2021

    I am getting better as a survivor and playing 😂...I did say I was going to rant why click on the link good sir🙄

  • Marik13
    Marik13 Member Posts: 683

    As a somewhat still newbie to this game who has only played killer and only killer (not counting the two SWF games I played cus I died in like two minutes against red and purple rank killers lol) I have to say, this is not the way to go about this.


    I have dealt with my fair share of rank 1 SWF death squads that do nothing but bully throughout the entire game via flashlight spams, CONSTANT body blocks, running infinite loops in to another flashlight, then running off, and so on until they get bored and then decide to end the match and maybe toss me a pity kill at the end. I've been there. A lot. I've only been playing the game for a month now, I don't have many perks unlocked and legit have just 5 killers at 40 and some killers who I haven't even touched once (Trapper is one). Even with my horrible experiences being trolled and bullied, I do NOT "pay it forward" to the survivors and act like a toxic jerk on my end. There are times when I could just slug and leave an entire team on the ground and I could just dance gleefully over their slugged bodies and wait for the time to run out, but I don't. The only time I have ever done anything remotely toxic was one game as Ghostface, I had a cocky flashlight clicking teabagging survivor taunt me by the gates. I hit her and she was still within my reach to grab. So I went and hooked her then proceeded to teabag her in return as she died on hook.


    Again I understand the frustration of being paired, trolled, and bullied by survivors who have thousands of more hours than me at this game and know the ins and outs of this game like it's second nature to them. But that's no excuse to act like a jerk and continue that cycle of toxicity towards others who have done nothing wrong to me. Because I know what it feels like, I don't want a new unfortunate potato rank survivor who gets screwed by the game's matchmaking and gets paired with me, to end up feeling what I feel when I get bullied by these death squads. It's not right and you accomplish nothing and become no better than the jerks who bullied you.


    The funny thing is, sometimes, not often, but sometimes, the red rank death squads apologize to me at the end of the match when they see that I'm still a baby killer. We tall, have a laugh, and wish each other better luck in the next game. Be the change you want to see in this game. You want someone to troll and go ######### at? Then go and spam and troll the devs to do something about their broken system to make it more balanced and quit attacking others in the game who don't deserve it.

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    I was the change...been a killer main since 2018 and played every killer getting every adept I can. Killer is just not enjoyable right now...ask yourself why are we forced with rank mode and no casual mode? Not many killers will want to play vs swf on coms right? If you enjoy the state of killer right now more power to you but there is no toxicity in how I am helping. New killers need to prepare for higher rank game play and it will force them to become better killers...they still get their pity kill from me in the end😁 I am helping the game I love become better

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    I do commend you for sticking to killer though be blessed and I hope you continue to play killer for a long time...we know people aren't going to be converting to killer mains without incentives right now

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119
    edited May 2021

    Nope just becoming a better survivor...do you have any tips on how to prolong loops I have dead hard predrop pallets when necessary and of course hold that run button on big maps 😁

  • Junylar
    Junylar Member Posts: 2,005

    SWFs are the curse of this game. They ruin the game both for killers and solo survivors. All the trolls and sandbaggers I've met within the last weeks were in SWF.

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    Unfortunately that is where most of the money is generated...as long as they are happy so is the longevity of this game...we don't need killers we can just have ai bots😁

  • Marik13
    Marik13 Member Posts: 683

    I mean there is no incentives to ranking up in general in the game right now for either side, outside of earning your perks. Once you have that, then what else is there to work towards? The tome challenges I guess? So you're half right about there being no incentives to play killer, but again that's just a massive issue with the overall structure of this game in general which does desperately need to be fixed.


    I also agree in that I do think that there needs to be a general unranked matchmaking mode in the game to go along with the ranked matchmaking mode. Majority of games out there now a days have both of these modes, so there's really no excuse for BHVR not to have the same in this game other than they'd have to be bothered to then implement and balance their matchmaking system and institute some sort of elo tracking system that keeps track of things for the unranked games and then balance out their ranked system so that potatoes aren't being matched with red ranks. Unfortunately, judging by how lazy and half-assed the current matchmaking system is- hahahahahaha I doubt BHVR is gonna want to put the effort in to doing anything like that any time soon. The only thing I can imagine that could get them to care about doing something like that would be to have the entire community of the game literally come together and as a collective majority pester them towards the point where they can't ignore us and make it clear what we want in the game.


    Look, overall my main gripe with the game is the horrible excuse for a matchmaking system they have. That is honestly imo the biggest glaring problem in the game that is at the root of a lot of problems. But just because the game is broken in that aspect, which results in me sometimes getting bullied and having terrible games where I run in to toxic sweat lords, doesn't mean that I should go and continue that cycle of toxicity and take out my frustrations by ruining someone else's game.


    And just to add, yeah ok so you gave the killer a pity kill at the end. I'm gonna tell you, for me personally I -hate- that crap so much more than if the entire survivor team simply just got away at the end. To me it just feels condescending and sort of just stacks on top of the whole powerless feeling that I get in these kinds of one-sided matches. Look at it through my eyes for a second. I go in to a game and throughout the entire thing I have basically no control of anything, all the way down to my most basic objective which is to secure a kill. It feels more like the survivors after giving me hell, basically tell me that "Yeah that's right, we controlled all aspects of this game all the way down to even who you could get. So here, enjoy." It's insulting and barely even makes a difference for me at the end cus I'll still end up barely getting any points for just the one kill anyway, depending on how badly I got outdone in the other categories too.

  • NoTerrorRadius
    NoTerrorRadius Member Posts: 201

    OP,

    Why are you upset? It's a video game. It's meant to be fun. Like a violent, horror themed hide and seek.

    Just play the game. Simple.

    If you get smashed, just keep playing.

    Sometimes you are the hammer, sometimes the nail. That's life.

    DbD is good. Make it a fun experience for yourself, learn from each trial and improve. No problem.

    The anger and bitterness is unhealthy, though. Gotta let it go.

  • TragicSolitude
    TragicSolitude Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 7,356
    edited May 2021

    So... survivors make you miserable as killer. Fine, that's common. But your response is to then become the very thing that's making you miserable, instead of playing survivor and trying not to be like those dicks who ruined your games.

    That's... that's totally backwards.

    It'd make more sense to meme around as survivor. Run Bond, Technician, Diversion, and Red Herring and have a bit of fun tanking your teammates. That would make some sense as a response.

    You talk about making killers better, but that's just a load of crap. There's a difference between a healthy challenge that someone learns from and a miserable experience. The latter is more likely to get players tilted, which makes them play worse, or it causes them to outright quit. If you're playing against low rank killers, then you're probably going against not just newbies but also killers who plateaued and just reached a point after which they're unable to improve. What you're doing is not helping them learn. Matchmaking is already screwing them over; you know that and you're capitalizing on it at their expense.

    Ugh, this is why I don't do anything but meme around as killer. The mix of RNG, bugs, bad matchmaking, and unsportsmanlike players makes playing this game for real seem like a completely futile and unfun experience, at least to me. Why anyone would do more than walk around as tier 1 Mikey, spook a few players, and then just wait for the next match is beyond me. The chance to be spooky is what keeps me playing DbD.

    Edit: correction to perk name

  • Marik13
    Marik13 Member Posts: 683

    It's funny cus just the other day when I ranted about getting just rocked and bullied around by a 4 man rank 1 SWF death squad, someone told me to learn from that experience. I was like what in the hell am I supposed to learn from playing a game against survivors doing back to back body blocks and flashlight spams just for the fun of it? What do I learn as a new killer, playing a game where I wqs completely outmatched where my opponent's literally just toyed around with me until they got bored and then rushed the gens as quickly as possible and then escaping? What is it that I learn from them having one person purposefully stay behind just to play around some more by looping and juking around me at the end until the time runs out to give me that one pity kill? I don't learn very much from those games because I am not anywhere even near the same plane of existence that these people are on to even understand what little things they did in the game. Getting toyed around with is no fun and all you accomplish is just looking like a dick for no reason.

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    I give the pity kill so the killer gets some points and I don't rank up because there is no incentive and would rather remain a brown rank survivor. The only way we will get a casual mode is if enough players care to complain but I don't expect it unless they start losing money.

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    Exactly it is just a game which is why I am doing a karma challenge right now ...play my daily killer match and will play how I am treated to the next 4 killers. If I get tbagged clicky clicked etc. I will do the same if the team plays well and no toxicity I will do the same to the next 4 killers...down to the higher rank players now😎

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  • Predated
    Predated Member Posts: 2,976

    I mean, I play rank 1 on both sides, never really had issues with either in ranking up, nor had I ever really issues with being matched with higher ranks.


    I think your biggest issue was that you had no clue on what survivors get in terms of information. You cannot consistently be a rank 1 killer without having played survivor at least a couple of times, nor can you be a consistent rank 1 survivor without having played killer at least a couple of times.

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    I am letting it go in the game. Being a killer main is for masochists...I just flashlight saved 4 times and that poor trapper didn't know what hit him. I even found another flashlight in a chest and made sure to clicky click...when it doesn't happen to me it is funny right?

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    They learned that killers are punching bags at higher ranks so get used to it now😅

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    Matchmaking isn't my fault and like you said I reached my plateau as a green rank killer so stop giving me purple and red ranks...that is unfair to me as well. If it is a futile and unfun experience why do you still play? All I did was switch sides to the ez mode and prove the hypocrisy in this game with my karma challenge right now

  • Grandpa_Crack_Pipe
    Grandpa_Crack_Pipe Member Posts: 3,306

    Weak.

  • TragicSolitude
    TragicSolitude Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 7,356
    edited May 2021

    "prove the hypocrisy in this game." I mean, yeah. Saying survivors making killers miserable is bad but then doing it yourself, that's hypocrisy, and I'm not sure why anyone would glorify doing that, but okay. However, proving hypocrisy exists by doing it yourself doesn't really prove anything except your own hypocrisy, so I'm not really seeing the accomplishment.

    I never said matchmaking is your fault. It's also not my fault, so I don't get why some random survivor would want to come into my lobby and attempt to punish me to prove something that has nothing to do with me. That's weird. And kinda funny. But mostly it's beneficial for me: I have Lightborn on permanently and the TV muted, flashlights do nothing more than give me free Deviousness points.

    I said playing to win is futile and unfun. I'm a big horror fan, walking around being spooky is enjoyable for me. I hide behind trees, I stare at survivors as Mikey without bothering to tier up. Maybe I get grabs or something if grabs are working that match. I like memeing. Oh, and searching for the gnome. That's actually quite a challenge, I almost never find that sucker. Hooks are actually pretty boring no matter what, the game needs more animations. I wouldn't be opposed to some gore. Without better animations and stuff the only incentives to bother killing survivors are achievements and challenges.

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    See you are already playing casual mode killer then and not ranked mode correct? Is it so wrong to want that for all the new players then and not drive them away immediately with ranked swf and killers? The karma challenge for myself is how I enjoy the game right now because lord knows playing killer at anything higher than a brown rank is asking to be a punching bag especially in the evening hours