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Pride charm tunneling
I'm not against this charm or anyone wanting to feel like something represents them in this game before I even start this thread I want to get that out of the way.
I saw where the dead by daylight team said they would count targeting those players in game as harassment if they had the charm, and this is concerning because what's stopping everyone from throwing the charm on and claiming discrimination and then the Autobahn system about to come into play on top of this, it's opening the door for salty sore losers to get people banned if they choose and I do not approve of this I don't think anyone should be banned unless something is said in chat regarding the player having the charm, how are you gonna say don't report for tunneling and then give some special immunity I want clarification from a dev or mod on how this is gonna work because honestly it opens the door for alot of bullshit reports of people taking this game too personal like it's real life abd assuming someone did something "just because" . Again I'm not against the charm but I would like some clarification to how that's gonna work.
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IMO, players should be reported for things said in the chat rather than their actions in the game besides the obvious offenses like working with Killer, sandbagging, etc.
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it's probably going to work the same way they said tunneling in general might be considered grieving. It has to be over multiple games, and it has to show that they are specifically focusing on you in a way that is completely different from how they normally play.
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Pretty sure they're talking about cases where someone states they they griefed or tunneled someone specifically because of the charm.
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I was about to ask the exact same thing.
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Well how can you prove that? What if the killer is overwhelmed and tunnels to secure a kill? I guess they're banned for being a homophobe because the guy wearing the charm lost, I guess I need to throw it on and report everyone who tunnels me now because this is the direction we're choosing to take this
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But how can you tell if it's that or the killer securing a kill for pressure
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You can't tell the difference when it comes to tunneling & camping as this is DBD...
When the killer claims he tunneled you in end game chat cause of the charm, then you can report him, I guess....
Idk, did the devs really say tunneling someone with this charm is harassement?
As for the autoban system, this will be implemented MUCH MUCH later on... Let's make that clear. Until then, they'll refine it.
Edit: Great, this is what DBD needed. Going out of your way to tunnel someone with the pride charm... Really screams out that our community is beyond toxic. Fantastic.
As for my thoughts on the charm... I couldn't care less if someone wears it or not. Doesn't bother me, never will.
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If the person states they went after them because of the charm it's pretty cut and dry.
Christ I didn't realize a little charm could cause so much gay panic.
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Thats just normal play.
I mean like, they tunnel you out of the game, every game you ever have with them, but do not do it to anyone else. Could be like those is it bodyblocking griefing? is it not? rules that change depending on the situation.
I wouldn't worry about it. They barely punish people who are actually cheating, and really really really doubt an innocent player will get banned on a false report or 2.
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I am completely against homophobia, transphobia etc and I generally avoid tunneling when I can but like what exactly do they mean by this. Does this mean tunneling any survivor that wears this charm can get banned? How do they decide if the killer tunneled them due to their charm/sexual orientation or because they brought a key or something.
Once again I think it is a great idea to try reduce toxicity and specifically hate towards LGBTQIA2S+ but I am just wondering for a bit more clarity about what this means and if anyone who gets tunneled is gonna report the killer for harasment.
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Im wearing my charm and playing my usual game. You want to tunnel me, well it's not much different than my regular games, so let's go!!! And I am not going to assume the charm is the reason for the tunnel. Nor will I make an accusation without solid evidence that it was. I.E. They admit to it.
And if a person is tunneling strictly because of the charm, well they have a lot more to worry about, especially within themselves, than getting banned in a video game.
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I'm pretty sure it will just be if they admit to it.
I've had plenty of people be homophobic to me in endgame chat for playing with my BF and it's a bannable chat offence currently. Homophobes will be idiots, I guess.
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Yeah I always found it weird how people brag about themselves being homophobic and transphobic like its some kind of accomplishment for them even looking through replies on those tweets you can see people saying things like "cant wait to tunnel everyone using that charm". Like what are they expecting someone to say "Congratulations, you are an awful human being.".
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I just want to see them tunnel a Myers.
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Well i never gave attention to survivors charms. So i will just do my job.
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I wouldn’t report a killer for tunneling me unless they specifically posted some thing in the chat afterward related to the charm. I think they were just trying to make light of the people who are already being ######### about the pride flag.
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players should only be banned if they say in post game chat that they tunneled because of the charm. if they just tunnel and don't say anything about the charm don't report them. it does nothing to get a player banned if your not sure if they actually did what you called them out for. it may leave an innocent killer with a banned account. so be carful when reporting.
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If the killer tunneled them and no one else.
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I don't care who has the charm I just want to know how they're gonna know who to ban that's it
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I'm sorry that that happened to you. People suck
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So i will put this charm on my survivor. And then if killer kills me i will report them, i will say killer tunnelled me because of charm and then killer will get ban? Did i get right?
I hope not, i do not wanna get ban because i killed someone and i never did gave attention survivor charms before and i do not think i will give attention now.
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I think it’s just going to have to come down to the end game chat. I’m wearing the charm. I have no clue why someone chooses to tunnel me in-game, but if the killer starts throwing slurs at me post-game, I can make an educated guess.
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Its not gay panic. I would argue that most of the 'straight' players could care less what anyone else does outside the game. (Yes there are those who hate just to hate, and they belong to every group from every walk of life)
People are genuinely worried about the autoban system as they announced it with very little information. Devs are completely to blame for that.
Then they made the post saying its harassment to target those charm users which is bannable.
Put the 2 together, with again very little information, and yes people are worried that they are going to be punished.
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You're making a huge assumption. Banning for tunnelling a charm certainty wouldn't happen without solid evidence, like someone saying homophobic things in end game chat (bannable already) or admitting that they tunelled because of the charm.
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I honestly doubt that this is going to be as big of a problem as people may think. I do think that the autoban system is going to be a mess with unnecessary reports, but I don’t think the little flag on our hips is going to be what clogs up the system.
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Yes the auto ban system is a little worrying. However, if people would just use common sense it would be pretty clear that peeps are only going to get banned if they openly admit in a recordable way that they are specifically targeting lgbt players. This could be through an end game chat, profile name, profile description, recorded voice through stuff like YouTube and twitch. Stuff like that.
The reactions though from this community is however pathetic as hell. Because guess what, people who wear the charm aren't concerned about getting an advantage but are concerned with be able to show their pride. It's not about those not in the lgbt community, it's about us and these threads are trying to take that away from us intentionally or not.
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Unfortunately that's not reliable - the killer can tunnel just one player for many ingame reasons. They can want one person out of the game immediately and not care who, they can panic and realize they need pressure at one point and switch to tunneling to remove a player when the game's going out of their favor, they can just not have any idea where anyone else is or keep running into that person because they're unlucky/not trying to hide. Targeting a specific player can also be because they don't like the player's item, they saw that player is running a perk they hate, they interpreted that player BMing them, or they suspect they used an offensive offering (by their place in the lineup.) They might even just hate the person's name. You can't know. The issue is that a lot of times, survivors and killers will disagree on whether something was tunneling, because they don't understand each other's reasoning at the time or the context leading up to where people ended up when the 'tunneling' started.
It's going to have to be if they fess up to it, since I don't think the game would keep data like escape rate of survivors with the charm versus without it for each player. Luckily, the kinds of people that do this generally want people to know why they did it, because if they're not making people upset, then there's no point to it for them.
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I am really confused and worried after i see tweet.
So if i put this charm on my survivor, i can report killers for killing me? I can say "they did tunnel me because of charm" and they will get ban for that? I hope i get wrong but this little worried me.
I am playing killer for years and i never did gave attention to survivor charms. I never knew who using what. So i do not think i will do now or in future. So if i killed someone who using this charm, they will report me and i will get ban? Will that work like this? We need answers dear mods.
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I think it's pretty obvious it's only if they admit it in chat.
There's no way they're going to act on a "I got tunnelled for wearing a charm" report unless there's some evidence for it.
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I agree with you, but again, all this panic is the Dev's fault. They threw something like this out there with next to no information.
I appreciate them letting us know stuff and prefer it to silence, but something as big as an autoban system shouldnt be glossed over.
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Again the people at behavior is vague about everything
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See, thats an issue. Because one of the ways to deal with the current gen rush meta is to tunnel someout out early. Now killers have to fear getting banned over this?
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Thank you for having and using common sense
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I guess, as long as you are not tunneling people because they are using the Pride-Charm, you will be fine. Really, people need to stop overthinking stuff like that. So play like you would normally.
They will most likely ban you if you tunnel someone and admit doing so because of the Pride Charm in the Postgame Chat. In that case, the tunneling person deserved their ban.
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Honestly though, To me nothing is more LGBT+ than the 'slippery slope'.
Before gay marriage was even a thing, I'd hear people really believing that if you let two consenting homosexual get married, it would lead people fighting for the right to marry farm animals.
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A US senator once asked that if we had gay people marry what's to stop people from marrying animals or ice-cream cones
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And if i know this community, they will abuse that. They will use this charm and when they get killed, they will blame killer. They will say " You did tunnel me because of this charm" and maybe innocent people will get ban for that.
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Um, who wouldn’t marry an ice cream cone? Ice cream is delicious.
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No, I think people are getting worried over nothing. The point is what they say in chat afterward. Like I said another thread, if you turn on me and then call me a slur after, that’s the reportable part.
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I don't like it
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I know your joking but that joke was legitimately used to try and hurt lgbt people and their human rights in very public ways by people with legitimate power. It's demeaning.
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More for me, then!
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Ok, lets make a comparison:
Can you kill Claudettes and Adams in the game? Sure.
Can you kill Claudettes and Adams and tell them you did it because they are N-words? You can, but you will get banned.
Can you kill people with the Pride Charm? Sure.
Can you kill people with the Pride Charm and tell them you did it because they are F-Words? You can, but you will get banned.
Really, too much thinking on that one. Way too much.
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you call the people who say that type of ######### homophobic #########-holes
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You! I like you!
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Stop that, you're making too much sense here.
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But a tunneling killer will usually tunnel as many people as possible. Not just one person.
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Wait till you find out how often this kind of self-victimizing stuff happens outside of dbd...
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And if there's evidence, the charm is barely a factor. If I say something improper to another player, it's the saying that's the problem, charm or no.
I'm more interested in killers that have time to calculate activity based on charms? I never even notice them on players except when playing survivor in the lobby. Otherwise, I don't even look.
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If every time it happened you got a nickle you might get a nickle every million incidents.
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