Why are the devs nerfing moirs again
The new chapter is wonderful don't get me wrong. the stream was a bit cringy but fun but some things made me a bit annoyed tho. One of those things was them nerfing moris again. Why they got neutered already. And for some reason, they called them Toxic, like huh?! even tho they are dead now and no one uses them unless it's for a daily and a challenge. they already got rid of the BMing of mori spamming. their other reason for nerfing moris against is because "they end the game prematurely" which ya old Mori but not new moris. sometimes it's better to hook someone since its quicker than certain moris, also mori counteract ds ya I know but first of all, if the killer did tunnel they would have already been DSed by the surv and if the killer doesn't tunnel the killer would not have even seen DS the whole game.
I still don't see how they are toxic and why they are nerfing them again. They didn't even mention keys all too much which is way more problematic.
they say moris are toxic but not key. I don't think any are toxic but still at least tell us why keys an item that is a trillion times better than moris, are less "toxic and problematic" than moris
sorry. i just a bit annoyed and maybe be overreacting but still if the people didn't think the devs had a biased they sure do now
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I'm just annoyed that Keys are going to be here for at least another 3 months, likely more.
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They never said anything about nerfing mori's again. They said they wanted to make mori's apart of the game and make the killer earn their mori's, and not just getting them for playing an offering.
Here, let me make it simpler if you don't understand: YOU GET REWARDED FOR DOING GOOD!
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or forever ☹️
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you really think they are going to make moris good
its BHVR we are talking about a change that they don't specify usually means something bad
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it's probably a good thing considering how far the usage has dropped. And they're not even worth 7000 BP's.
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maybe they will do well making the moris base kit but still calling moris "toxic and ending the game prematurely" but not keys is still really biased
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I don't like the fact that you can close the hatch and someone can open it back up with a key without one gen completed.
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Mori as a part of the game.
The least thing I can image is Yellow Mori a basekit.
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it's annoying and you can't really stop it too since the survivors have 3 ways of getts out ( the exit gates and hatch) and one is instant
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especially when a survivor finds a key, you close the hatch and then 5 seconds later there's the escape logo!! Like come on man. 😂
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My thoughts exactly if ya curbstomp you get it and makes kill survivor dailies so much easier as you don’t have to run dh or spend bp grinding for a Ivory or ebony
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Never said they're gonna make them good, they're just gonna improve on what they are already and actually make them base kit instead of spending BP on them. How in the hell is that a bad thing? They basically are just a flashy death hook anyway so why use BP on them?
Mori's shouldn't be game changing like they used to be, no item, add on or perk should be game breaking. The only thing left is keys and they said they're changing those as well.
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I just hope this new mori rework don't give any huge advantage to the killer like the old moris
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its the balance team we are talking I don't think you should worrying at all
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even if they implemented them well it's still very biased that they called moris toxic and " end the game prematurely" and not keys that even tho they are even worst
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My educated guess is that they will follow the precedent for Pyramid Head's built in Mori. Ideally, the requirements for each Killer should be unique, but we shall see. In other words, there will be several in game hurdles and once you have crossed them, you can Mori a target. For Pyramid Head I believe he can Mori you if you have been tainted with his barbed wire and you are on 2nd Stage. Something like that, I don't play PH.
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Yeah only survivors deserve huge unfair advantages.
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Same, I have about twenty Ebony moris on leatherface
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I'm confused, they just said they are reworking mori to be part of the game. Anyways hardly any people take mori so who cares if they are nerfed again.
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Your interpretation seems willfully naïve.
In no reality would they ever describe the current implementation of moris as "toxic" and make any sort of adjustments that actually improves the utility and value killers get from them.
They're making a declaration to adjust a tool that's already been depowered heavily, rendering it even weaker and/or useless in any situation where a killer might need to change their fortune instead of providing flashy overkill.
Despite the community talking point, not everything in games design should revolve around "earned" and "rewarded for doing well." The other end of effective game promotes means of catching up when behind, meaningful choices/strategy, and an economy of doubling-down on success as well as insurance against failure.
(That's how it works with everything people bring into the game already. None of those heals and flashlights are any more "earned", they're just manifestations of effective game design that promote player agency and randomness/uncertainty/variation.)
What's actually egregious about the whole thing isn't that they want to change moris even more. It's just that they're even concerned with moris at all right now when they've done ######### all about keys except introduce a bug that made them obscenely common and even more obnoxious than ever.
While people argue about this game being "survivor sided" or "killer sided," I think that whole debate is a fools errand. What I'd actually argue is that BHVR is simply negligent about addressing the killer gameplay experience. They clearly perceive one role in this game as their bread-and-butter, creating a (conscious or not) priority to quality-of-life adjustments for survivor gameplay to the point of detriment to this game as a whole. It's a damn shame.
Onward we go. Roll out the anniversary special packed to the brim with (random ass) streamers (I ain't ever heard of) running the same epic circles and laughing it up. *Killer footage not found*
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I at least agree with the part about them calling moris toxic, that was really wack.
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They said they will rework moris not nerf it. And you really can't nerf moris in its current state, moris right now are just a more stylish way to kill survivors, nothing more.
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Calling current moris toxic was laughable. The original moris were toxic and the ones we had prior to the recent nerf were still quite bad
Basically nobody uses current moris unless they're doing a daily or achievement hunting
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I see similiar post everyday where someone is crying for mori's be OP/Trash
What they should say about keys? "Yeah, there is coming change to keys someday"?
Maybe they don't talk about it because game would be pure torture to killers when every survivor is using keys. I have over 200 keys but not gonna use them because I don't see reason to it.
Now please shut the ######### up about keys. Change is coming but they aren't gonna say when. Just wait
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Current moris are worthless anyways, they can only change them for the better, nerfing them anymore is not even possible.
I used old mori once when I was rank 15, and never again ever since. Now they are garbage but I still have hundreds of them since the bloodweb often don't give you a choice but to buy them.
Therefore I really hope they will change them from offerings and make current mori offerings into something playable. Or into BP
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I use mori after nerf just to waste it from inventory. Old mori felt like cheap win so I didn't used it back then.
Current mori are completely fine to me and I'm really curious what devs planning to it.
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They said key changes would come with the mori changes, they just didn’t say what or how.
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Moris will most likely become available for the last kill, after a 10 hook game.
So... meh
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I wish they would have waited to announce the changes until they could give us a more concrete idea of what they were planning to do. The way they presented it really came across as "Moris game ending, awful, and toxic, oh btw key change soon!™" which understandably doesn't sit right with a chunk of the playerbase.
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Said this a million times already, remove cypress mori and make it Base game.
Last survivor alive can get mori'd as long as no other survivor is slugged when they went down (to discourage slugging for.the 4k).
The mori will give bonus points to the killer for a glorious end of the trial and tbe.mori'd survivor also gets a tiny extra amount of BP
This will discourage slugging for the 4k by rewarding fun gameplay.
This will make endgame more exciting .
Thus will make sure all those mori animations are seen more.often and.thus not wasted
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