Wraith is A tier
No addons no perks against decent survivors and got a 4k. Wraith is not trash it's just people don't know how to play him which is by hit and running. Top 5 IMO
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Who said he was bad? Common consensus is he’s pretty good now.
And he’s not top 5 when he can still be looped by good survivors
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Blight is top 5 and he can be looped. His playstyle is hit and run not smack a survivor and chase them through 2 jungle gyms and a safe pallet.
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Blight doesnt suffer to god windows and predrop pallets. Don't wanna get lunge hit by a wraith? Just don't greed the pallet and predrop. Wraith also still has to uncloak to harm you while blight can just...hit you. Wraith may have the map pressure to make a good killer but he does not have the chase power. Also hit and run is horrible against good teams.
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If survivors are predropping pallets and someone is playing hit and run wraith that's not very smart. Even if wraith has to uncloak to hit survivors he's still close enough to get a hit or a free pallet. Watch the video please it's like you just read what i said and just wanted to compare blight to wraith instead
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Ok first off, these survivors are less than mediocre not a single one knew how to loop properly, and ran blindly whilst using DH.
Second you basically never Hit and Ran you ways chased a person and downed them within 10 tp 15 seconds because their not even remotely good at running tiles.
3rd hit and run would never work on a good team because it would take a while to get your first down and gens will fly because when you leave they'll instantly look for a gen.
Wraith is good against less than mediocre to mediocre players because they dont understand how to counter him (Look for his questionable that he's coming like sound and shimmer, and not greeding a pallet when he's uncloaking.
Wraith is high D tier against good players and A tier against bad players.
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While I do agree against good survivors Wraith has a hard time, he is in no way high D tier.
Wraith has solid map pressure and anti loop out of cloak, Wraith is an absolute menace atm
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I don't think you understand what it means to hit and run. It wasn't that the survivors were bad it's that im just better then them. You placed him D tier and i have no idea how you even think that tbh it might be because you're not good with him.
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I think you may be a few patches behind in the general consensus. Now that he has both mobility and a chase power (doesn't have to play everything like a 115 killer), he's pretty decent.
Of course, all the whiney survivor mains are complaining because suddenly they can't play every single pallet the exact same way they used to agasint him, but that's because they haven't quite figured out that he's basically a reverse Blight with a little overlap: He can't play maze tiles, but junk tiles and filler pallets are automatic hits if the survivors give him control of the pallet instead of dropping it early.
In essence, he's Pig but better.
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Wraith is very solid now. Easily B tier imho. Top 5 is a bit of a stretch though as he’s too map dependant and easily countered by good survivors.
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Yes I do, hit and run, you hit a survivor if they can get to a strong loop you leave them to find the next person which you did not. You chased them until they went down.
Yes I would agree you are better than them because they weren't good. None of them ever ran shack correctly and ran mindlessly most of the time and used DH. Like I said they were less than mediocre.
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Saw some people saying he's trash even with his buffs so i dont think im behind. I wouldn't say he's pig but better more like a better ghostface
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He's a stealth killer with an alternate stance instead of a cooldown a massive lunge that's used identically to Pigs. The biggest difference between the two is that he speeds himself up and she slows the game down.
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I did it 4 times in under 3 minutes but sure i never did hit and run. It's like you think you knew what hit and run was, i told you you didnt, you went to go see what it means and came back to still say i still didn't do it when i did it in the first 30 seconds
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His anti loop is countered by not being greedy, and dropping the pallet. Never give Wraith control over the pallet and he will suffer big time because he has to uncloak to get you which means he's wasting time if you camp the pallet and wait until he uncloak or fakes it to break.
If he chases you while he is uncloaked then he's just a normal 115 ms killer and playing Wraith wrong. Wraiths anti loop comes from going for a 5050 and depending on the survivor to be greedy. You can deny to 5050 by not being greedy and dropping the pallet.
He only has Map pressure, but again he cannot be everywhere at once and if the survivors are split he is still screwed. Like I said against mediocre survivors he's A tier, but against good ones he's high D tier.
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Like I said you didnt do it that much never said you didnt do it read the post again. You did it 4 times and basically didnt do it after because you realized the survivors were bad and that you could down them quickly. Like I said I do know what it is and you barely did it after the 2 minute mark.
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I am a Wraith main (for now, Demo might steal that title away). I love Wraith, clearly.
He is not top 5. Wraith is very good at getting early hits and playing unsafe pallets, but other killers can do what he does but better. Blight, Nurse, Oni? Spirit? Better map mobility. Even Billy, rest his poor heart, has better mobility. And a good portion of the cast has better chase potential. He suffers from a lack of map pressure, and as long as a survivor is competent, Wraith cannot do a thing about pre-dropping unsafe pallets and long loops.
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He is A tier against solos and C-D at most against SWFs
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You're honestly a lost cause probably wasting my time talking to a guy who doesn't know what he's talking about. I won't respond to you anymore so please don't waste your time @ me
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2 of the clips are not hit and run 450 you were running around the map and 6 22 you literally just hit the person bodyblocking and went to tunnel nea. The other two you made a mistake of kicking a gen instead of dowing them in bad positions. Please dont tell me I'm lost.
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There's so much wrong in what you said and i dont feel like saying the same things right now I'll come back later when i have the energy to keep repeating myself
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Are you implying that a killer that has to interact with the primary mechanic of the game is bad?
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Ah, you're one of these types of people. Aight, yeah, you aren't worth my time.
Have fun living in your fantasy land.
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No I’m implying that a killer who can’t deal with good looper in a short amount of time isn’t very good
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The thing is, survivors only have so many pallets and he chews through them because of how well hes able to stay on a survivors ass. Early game he struggles, mid to late game he's very oppressive
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The only wraith games that I've seen ANY survivors escape were games where they let the last one go. The wraith mains are obviously doing this to either avoid a double pip and stay lower rank, or to fudge the numbers so BHVR doesn't see how OP he is now.
If the killer takes no effort at all and requires very good opponents for even a chance that survivors will escape, he is OP and needs a nerf. All of the other S/A/B tier killers require effort and/or skill. With the current wraith there is none of that. Oni has to charge up. Nurse has to time blinks. Spirit can't see survivors when she's fast. Wraith can loop gyms/shack and meet the survivors on the other side. Where is his downside/detriment?
He needs an ever increasing timer on his cloak/uncloak. Every time it's used add a second or two, and every time a survivor dies do the same.
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He's in a really good spot now, and like you said you gotta know how to play him.
No sticking to one surv unless the hits are given to you.
Hit and run
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They were, in the words of Ulquiorra, human trash.
Yes you were better than them, but that's also not an accomplishment, because again, human trash.
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Lol yes
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