The Trapper vs. Jason Voorhees
Who would be the better killer?
So I doubt I'm the first person to talk about Jason Voorhees. But as I am a new born to this Forum and new to forums in general I don't want to rob myself of this topic. I was discussing with my friend about this yesterday. Him and I both got into this game relatively around the same time a few months ago. We were talking about the differences between The Trapper and Jason. The Trapper, who is basically "Jason" as my friends would say. And we were just throwing around perks and powers that would be different enough to make both characters still viable and playable.
So I wanted to get yawl's perspective as well on this. If and when Jason finishes up with his legal battle that is... But would Jason make the trapper obsolete? Would he have a variation of bear traps or traps in general? Would he teleport like he did in the Friday the 13th solo game? Would he have a cross bow? a spear. etc etc. So many different Jason versions and skins they could do I can't see why they would have a hard time doing this once legal battle is settled. The one thing that gives me hope is, and most people know this. That the Developers said Jason has a permanent invitation in DBD once it's settled.
And... begin!
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I feel like Jason would have two abilities (in the same way Demogorgon and Pig do).
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Ya I couldn't imagine he would be too simple. But balanced enough to where people just throw away the trapper. You know? What kind of ability do you think?
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Well, Leatherface didn't make the Hillbilly obsolete when he joined the roster, and neither were the Legion when Ghostface came along.
If he ever does come to the game, I have faith that BHVR will do him justice.
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Yeah so that was a point I wanted to bring up in first comment but wanted to keep it short. You think Hillbilly can hold his own against Leatherface? (Bubba). In terms of win rate etc etc? I'm not disagreeing I actually don't know cause from my understanding I can't see why anyone wouldn't pick OP bubba.
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Oh! I forgot about that feature! That would actually be sick! Omg I miss that game... Ya they have a pretty good base of options from that game alone lol xD
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I would say there's two different fan bases of this game. There's people who really love the original characters and there's people who really love the license content ,as for me it's a mixture of both when,I first started playing I don't think they had one license chapter but possibly. I know I didn't purchase Michael Myers for months, I fell in love with the atmosphere of the game and main Huntress for along time, I'm not saying that she isn't my main also i, just don't play with her as much anymore.I was at least a half of year maybe 4 or 5 months before,I brought Michael Myers ,but I'm excited for more license content because this pretty much sums up our generational legends that we grew up with and Behaviour for the most part does damn great work with the models and personification of the characters.
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The Trapper's cool, I think he's an underrated killer. I've seen people use him very deviously, very intelligently, and very successfully.
But he's no Jason. Jason is literally a living, unkillable zombie (well, MAYBE. That's definitely a topic for another thread). A little deformed boy left to drown by hedonistic teenagers. He somehow grew to have the brute force of a bull and paranormal abilities that allow him to basically never die no matter the circumstances to the point that in a few hundred years he's going to be studied by space labs.
He's brutal. He doesn't even need his machete. He can crush your skull with his bare hands. He's fast. He's impervious to pain, drowning, anything you can throw at him. His only weakness is Final Girls, who somehow manage to inflict the blow that can take him down.
And Corey Feldman. But come on, Corey Feldman ruled us all in the 80s.
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So there's a couple of things here. Which version of Jason? Because OG Jason, hands down beats the holy hell out of Trapper. Jason is literally and unstoppable machete wielding zombie with the strength of 13 gorillas hyped up on some weird chemical mixture of steroids and meth. As far as I know, Trapper is just some dude lol. The most Trapper could do is catch him in some bear traps, but then eventually Jason will just get annoyed and rip through them until he can grab the Trapper and break him against the nearest tree.
Now, the only reason I'm bringing this up is because of the version of Freddy we got. But if they gave us the newer Jason from the Friday the 13th remake, that would be interesting because essentially he and Trapper are exactly the same person because Jason in that version was very much a big psycho mountain man. Also imo, that version of Jason was the most piss your pants terrifying. Seeing that large gargantuan man RUN and book it after you was waaaay more terrifying than OG Jason just teleporting and waiting for you around the corner lol.
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Apparently Pamela used the Necronomicon,not sure if it's canon?
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Oh yeah they kinda implied that in Jason Goes to Hell... yeah the canon is a little uhhh....weird the further you go in to the series >.>
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Towards the end it gets a little rough Jason X
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But at least it's an explanation right?
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@Marik13 xD Jason is literally and unstoppable machete wielding zombie with the strength of 13 gorillas hyped up on some weird chemical mixture of steroids and meth.
This has me dead lol xD. But OG Jason for sure!
And omg yes.
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Jason tends to kill slowly like Myers, so perhaps he'd be a stalker/powerhouse. Could be a rage based killer. The longer he chases you, the more his power bar goes up etc. Tier 3 could be hybrid of existing perks perhaps
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I don't think this would happen, but maybe he has a rage meter where he either exposes victims or maybe he gains some weird enduring ability where pallets can't stun him and breaks on impact? Though that might be too OP?
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I have always thought this is a super unfair comparison, since Jason has so many different versions of himself.
Jason could have a Rage meter that fills progressively throughout the match that when full, allows you to push a pallet back upright with one hand instead of getting stunned and being able to easily walk through breakable walls and dropped pallets.
His other ability could have him become surrounded by fog/mist when he tiers up his meter and then he would see the auras of all survivors, allowing him to use his power button to teleport a certain distance in front of wherever they are moving/looking.
As for a special attack, I can see him being able to choke a survivor he downs with one hand and then throw them a certain distance, damaging other survivors and breaking pallets/walls.
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The trapper is not really like Jason if you look at all the F13th movies there is one the he only really used bear traps on and i think it was the 2009 movie, they might off made trapper kind off look the same with the mask but otherwise they are two different killers. Take one movie when someone was in a Portable toilet did Jason set a trap outside off it and wait for them to come out Jason skewers his victim two times through the Porta Potty's walls, leaving him to die without a shred of dignity.
The list could go on but they are two different killers with different kill styles the trapper sets traps where as Jason just kills without out the use off traps apart from that one movie.
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The Trapper because he has a mind; Jason does not.
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From a business standpoint alone, BHVR would undoubtedly make Jason the stronger, more exciting killer. Trapper is free to play, and if he's better than their version of Jason then pretty much the only people Jason would attract in this game are those who are already fans of Ft13 (which realistically would be a huge number anyway). For those who don't care so much for Ft13, they'll more likely be happy to just play Trapper which doesn't make as much money for BHVR.
But, this is all assuming that the two would be comparable in the realm of dbd; personally, I think the trapper resembles baby face from The Hills Run Red moreso than he does Jason.
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Jason would outclass the Trapper in every department. He's grab the trapper and crush him with little to no effort. That being said, I personally feel like Jason would be a boring killer. People talk about him having some sort of tier up into a rage mode where he can break stuff really quick, but that's Lopro Chains + Myers/Oni, and every time they release a new killer that's a mashup of old killer powers, people complain. Getting upset that the devs aren't doing anything new.
The fact that he can teleport is cool, and I can see the devs doing something with that. Maybe he can teleport to certain places on the map as long as nobody can see him. But at the end of the day he's just a stronger, less intimidating, less intelligent version of michael myers, with a machete.
I imagine his power working like this:
When the match starts, a meter starts filling up passively. Once it's full, he can enter rage mode, allowing him to run around the map very fast. Initially he won't be at max speed, but each time he hits a survivor, he gets faster. (kind of like the blight addons that make you faster with each consecutive Rush) During the sprint, hits on survivors will injure or down if already injured, apply the hemorrhage status effect, and he can break pallets and breakable walls without a cooldown (like lopro chains). Hits on survivors MIGHT reduce the Rage meter a little bit. Hits during rage mode will have a faster cooldown than normal attacks (think 4-5 stacks of STBFL). His turning during Rage would be similar to the Oni.
That's the best I can think of. It's not perfect, and is probably op, but if someone else can create a power that fits him better thematically, I'd love to hear it.
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It's why I don't think there is a more anticipated killer for this game for our generation. Of course I think this game is missing one of the most iconic horror creatures of all and that is Dracula but I talk about that in my other discussion.
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So overall there would be enough of a difference to make both characters still viable in your opinion?
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power wise, hag already has trapper beat.
and she probably has the best trap based power that could exist. it works for tracking, chases, movement...
also, jason should not get a trap power anyway. he's not known for his trap setting skills, besides the 2009 remake. (which was fine but, you know... it's kinda not the same character)
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There is like others have pointed out Jason stalks people and has a massive amount off strength and a lot of times he used his strength to bust through door's, walls etc, If they ever got Jason one day they would have to make part off him stealth which trapper doesn't have stealth, his strength they could allow Jason to smash though breakable doors then has a cool down before you could use it again.
With those 2 things in mind and what he was like in the movies Tapper is nothing like Jason and the same with Jason his nothing like Trpper, so they both could viable be in the game as both off them would be different from each other and have there own skills and play style.
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I used to be a die-hard fan of the Friday the 13th movies, in each movie (except the 1st and 5th one) the majority of Jason's kills were spontaneous. If you were going to put a killer like Jason into Dead by Daylight, I would make his first power something to do with his terror radius or perhaps an invisibility power.
For his second power, it could have something to do with Jason himself. Jason is unnaturally strong in the movies, maybe for a secondary power it could have something to do with his upper body strength.
The machete would be my first choice for Jason's weapon. Although there are cosmetics that include machete skins, none of the killers have a machete for their default weapon.
There are many outfits you can use for Jason, but because I would go with the machete for a default weapon, I would go with his part 7 outfit for the default skin as part 7 is the film in which he uses the machete.
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No I was reading everyone elses points I just wanted a final consensus. And I think I found what I was looking for. I personally wanted to see how everyone else was feeling about Jason and I know some people have said well Trapper is basically Jason. And I agree that the Dev's have done a great job at creating these unique characters from scratch and I was worried Trapper would be obsolete. But now I see that he wouldn't be. And y'all are right Jason probably wouldn't have bear traps in this game. I could totally see him just walking through walls and doors and pallets just coming in all massive and just wrecking survivors! I bet DBD has all kinds of concepts and ideas. Hell maybe they already have something concrete but are waiting to share it? I mean I wouldn't doubt it. But man just excited to see Jason in this game. And also really miss the Friday the 13th solo game.
@Elena Ya Part 7 would work very well. But part 4 jason would be more likely
But.. Legendary skin right here!
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Jason would be able to end chases. That would make him several times better than Trapper.
He also wouldn't have to spend the first minute of the match picking up and putting down bear traps just to use his power inconsistently in a small part of the map.
Dead Hard also most likely wouldn't hard counter Jason's power, either.
Plus, I doubt be would be able to accidentally pallet stun himself with his power when no pallets are nearby.
Pretty much every killer outclasses Trapper. Even Trickster, if just barely.
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Jason is better, Trapper is the 99 cents version of him. Especially if we compare him to Jason from the game. He was too overwhelming.
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