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Killer Sided Game

Sluzzy
Sluzzy Member Posts: 3,130
edited June 2021 in General Discussions

This game is extremely broken in favor of killers and this is unacceptable in a 5 year old game. An entire side of the map WITHOUT a single pallet, no options to even hide. You can see how this match ended, the killer easily won because NOBODY had anything they could do. WHY do killers have anti-stealth capabilities when you can't hide or protect yourself??? Did someone at BHVR forget they have killers that can throw projectiles when an entire side of the map has no options? Huntress, Deathslinger, Trickster can shoot right over everything on this side of the map. The map designer obviously never plays survivor, the proof is right here.


The match ended with the killer winning of course.

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Comments

  • TheBus4K
    TheBus4K Member Posts: 256

    Again, thanks for using two perks that only serve to heal yourself (and one of them to heal others slightly faster).

    They are neither meta perks nor "fun" perks, they are simply perks to help the killer.

  • Kebek
    Kebek Member Posts: 3,676

    RNG screwing over either side happens quite often. Nothing new here, sometimes it does to killer, sometimes to survivor.

    You used to to do better.

  • Northener1907
    Northener1907 Member Posts: 3,012

    We both know Sluzzy but Self Care + Botany Knowledge makes med-kit so strong and useful. I am using this combo sometimes. Sluzzy seem like used same combo on screenshots.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    No, they are not.


  • TheBus4K
    TheBus4K Member Posts: 256

    Yes, with a med kit they are decent perks, but @SalmonDean thinks they are incredible perks that allow an entire team to win. Anyway, this is what happens when you win 2 games in a row against poor killers and you think your build is god...

  • Northener1907
    Northener1907 Member Posts: 3,012
    edited June 2021

    That build is really good. But if you will not play selfish. I am changing my builds so many times for different gameplay. I am using this build for chases.

    Purple Med-Kit + charge add-ons + Botany + Self Care + Dead Hard + Spine Chill

    I am taking killer on myself. And then we are just running around. I am forcing killer to break pallets and when i get hit, i am healing myself so fast. 2 or 3 pallet breaks gives me enough time. I am making loop really so long. And this build also counters bloodlust. Because killer is breaking pallet or hitting me. I remember i did run killer for 5 gens with that. And i am red rank survivor btw and most times i am facing red rank killers.

    But if we talk about post, that is Sluzzy you know. That game is survivorside. We are losing games when we are doing mistakes, if everyone do their job killers have not any chance.

  • Guest1567432
    Guest1567432 Member Posts: 728

    Cool story, tell it to my Myers when there are 13 pallets on this map and Im out of stalk addons.

  • TheBus4K
    TheBus4K Member Posts: 256

    Yes yes, I have also managed to beat Obama and Trump with that incredible build!

    Keep making my games easier 😍

  • Sluzzy
    Sluzzy Member Posts: 3,130

    It almost always screws over the survivor. There is never enough pallets, especially autohavens, always a free win for killer.

  • WishIcouldmain
    WishIcouldmain Member Posts: 4,082

    Yeah RNG could be more set in stone. But don't forget we have super survivor maps like Badham Preschool.

  • Swampoffering
    Swampoffering Member Posts: 384

    Yeah, Puzzle Maps screw survivors a lot xD with 25 pallets, 19 of that 25 are safe.

    Haddonfield House of pain screw survivors, with All the Windows open, the Basement house, if you get the Window near the stairs open, you literally hace an infinite loop there because is Fast Vault Window + Fence + Garden Safe Pallet and repeat.

    Badham has literally between 5-7 shacks. Shack + School, the building that destroy a lot of killers power + House of pain + Twoo Floor House with Window infinite + Safe Pallet near...... Screwing survivors xD.

    I am not going to explain Cowshed because you can visit Otz Channel al see with your own eyes how screwed survivors are on that map xD

    And autoheavens..... Excuse me but in gas station you can see killer like 50m away and Runaway, you can just press full W and make the killer waste a lot of time due to vision advantages. Wrecked yard is killer sided, easy 3 gens and also Azarov rest.


    Do not lie people Who read forums, most of maps, specially reworked ones, are survivor sided, If you are noob and dont know how to Connect loops is not Killers or Map problem, is yours :)

  • Ink_Eyes
    Ink_Eyes Member Posts: 561

    I think they should increase the min/max number of pallets on the map, sometimes I spawn into a map on top of a generator that is basically on a dead zone with no nearby structures and no pallets, it's basically a free hit or a free down (depending on the killer) if they catch you there.

  • Kirkylad
    Kirkylad Member Posts: 1,927

    You're boring me now sluzzy. 😴😴😴

  • Mister_Holdout
    Mister_Holdout Member Posts: 3,144

    Bad RNG. It affects both sides.

  • GeneralV
    GeneralV Member Posts: 11,336

    That isn't exactly proof that the game is killer-sided, because it isn't, but I gotta say that this RNG looks very painful.

  • PigMainBigBrain
    PigMainBigBrain Member Posts: 1,893

    If healing your team mates or healing yourself is "Helping the Killer" I think you my friend would make a great killer main or assistant. But only while you're playing survivor. So please, by all means, do not heal yourself, don't bring any healing perks, and absolutely do not heal your team mates.....

    Makes my job infinitely easier if everyone is injured....you have no idea how much people not healing helps me kill people. I wish more survivors just, didn't heal. My god....you are the perfect survivor to use to get all the other survivors to kill themselves through misplays. If we ever get into a match together, I will remind myself to save you for last, or even give you the hatch for helping me murder all your team mates because of refusal to heal.

  • humanbeing1704
    humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 8,999

    I'm new to posts by sluzzy is this what they usually are?

  • HaunterofShadows
    HaunterofShadows Member Posts: 4,092

    yes. Some are more unique than others and some are even comedic

  • MigrantTheGreat
    MigrantTheGreat Member Posts: 1,379

    Oh, its just Sluzzy!


  • TheBus4K
    TheBus4K Member Posts: 256

    Thanks for using self-care, you are fearsome and if I meet you in my games I will be afraid of you 😌

  • Marik13
    Marik13 Member Posts: 683

    Ok serious question. I've only been around for a couple months now, but in my short time here I've picked up that Sluzzy posts are usually just troll bait. So my question is, why do we still entertain them if it's common knowledge that this person is a troll? >.>

  • LethalPugy
    LethalPugy Member Posts: 493

    What a sluzzy (derogatory)

  • Aneurysm
    Aneurysm Member Posts: 5,270

    Standing still and taking a screenshot when the killer is looking at you from 6m away is an interesting strategy.

    Also the biggest nerf to you in particular is probably the new struggle on hook mechanic, it can be harder to ragequit after going down in 2 seconds gracefully exit a completely unwinnable scenario when pesky teammates insist on "rescuing" you.

  • velosinhooo
    velosinhooo Member Posts: 295

    Yeah, he is using self-care, now its meta, Master Sluzzy showed us the true power, medkit with self-care lol.

  • velosinhooo
    velosinhooo Member Posts: 295

    Lemme see, If you play against a optimal swf squad as killer in auto haven with the perks you want, and win then you have a point otherwise you are just non sense.

  • Hex_Ignored
    Hex_Ignored Member Posts: 1,925

    Your bait used to be much better but unlike other baiters you at least tried so: mediocre bait; 6/10

  • Gay_Police_Dept
    Gay_Police_Dept Member Posts: 743

    I've never seen so much truth behind a meme.

    I legit think that anyone who recommends to use self care is just a killer main trying to trick survivors.

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    okay, first of all: Hey Sluzzy, how are you doing today? good to see you've not given up on this yet, its always quite entertaining to read your posts ^^


    secondly, for all those who might not be aware of how this works:

    each map has an estimated maximum and minimum amount of pallets that can spawn. This is needed due to the random nature of how maps are created, so the amount of possible pallet spawn tiles varies from match to match.

    this leaves us with two possible, problematic scenarios:

    1) there are not enough pallet spawn tiles for the game to reach the minimum amount of Pallets. This will force the game to ignore the otherwise in place "pallet deadzone", which is around each pallet to prevent double pallet spawns, and forcefully create double pallet spots until the minimum amount of pallets has been reached.

    2) there are too many pallet spawn tiles for the game to place pallets in, as is the case in the screenshots above. In that case the game will just randomly start filling in pallets until the maximum number of possible pallets on this map has been reached and leaves the remaining pallet spawn tiles empty.


    so in conclusion, while Sluzzy is right that there might not be pallets in these otherwise possible pallet spawns, this in no way means there were no pallets on the map or that the game would be killersided, in fact it means that the Survivors had the maximum amount of pallets to play with, which is beneficial to them.

    Thanks for reading and have a good day ^^

  • Sluzzy
    Sluzzy Member Posts: 3,130

    Hello Mister :)

    As long as I play survivor I will bring to light the major shortcomings. Survivor is a major horrific disadvantage against a decent killer. This doctor didn't even seem good, just won because of his perks and no pallets on the map.

    Regardless of what is happening, a flawed computer algorithm, map designing, the entity itself, there is way too few pallets on too many maps. Autohavens, Shelter Woods, this map I showed, is a death sentence as soon survivors has spawned in it. In the picture I showed, the killer legit hit me twice before I even got to a pallet. I was thinking "I have no options". Two gens in that area, if it was a leatherface would down each person freely with no effort even if they were healthy.

    I don't think the game is considering a max or min or it is bugged beyond. I believe there was less than 10 pallets on the entire map, maybe 6-7. I remember seeing 1-2 in the center building, one obviously at shack, there was only 2 jungle gyms on that entire map, and it was one of the bigger maps! When you leave the jungle gym, it was a certain down.

  • Marik13
    Marik13 Member Posts: 683

    Wow, imagine winning because you used the perks that you grinded for that are available in the game for everyone else to unlock... What a concept.

  • Marik13
    Marik13 Member Posts: 683

    Damn, I wish those survivors who I just lost to when I was running pop on Oni would've known. Maybe then they would've let me win instead of escape.