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Is Ghostface's reveal mechanic fundementally broken

Brokenbones
Brokenbones Member Posts: 5,218
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I'm curious to know people's thoughts about this one because to me, Ghostface's power on paper is fine. The problem is the reveal mechanic quite frankly, only works when it feels like it.

I've had games where I'm stood right next to him, nothing happens

I've had games where he's stalking someone and I'm nearby trying to reveal him, his entire character filling most of my screen, nothing happens

It doesn't help that you can cheat the mechanic by just spam crouching to constantly interrupt when you're being revealed

To clarify, I don't think he's OP or too oppressive - I just wish his power worked as it's supposed to. What are you supposed to do against a killer who can expose you with their power and you can't take them out of their power the way that the developers intended

Is Ghostface's reveal mechanic fundementally broken 75 votes

Yes and it should be fixed/changed
82%
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No, it's fine as it is
9%
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Other
8%
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Comments

  • DwightFairfield
    DwightFairfield Member Posts: 1,246
    Yes and it should be fixed/changed

    if he leans, he can stalk you and you can't reveal him, this is especially apparent on corn maps

  • Brokenbones
    Brokenbones Member Posts: 5,218
    Yes and it should be fixed/changed
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2251075#Comment_2251075

    The leaning def breaks it

    I find it really unfair that if I see him leaning to expose one of my teammates and I'm stood behind him, I can't reveal him. Should've looked harder I suppose

  • DwightFairfield
    DwightFairfield Member Posts: 1,246
    Yes and it should be fixed/changed
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2251077#Comment_2251077

    outplayed, use your eyes next time

  • Antares2332
    Antares2332 Member Posts: 1,088
    Other

    He is fine but needs a slight buff.

  • celesteismore
    celesteismore Member Posts: 173

    I'm always getting revealed from nowhere when I play him but can never reveal him.

  • HaunterofShadows
    HaunterofShadows Member Posts: 4,092
    Yes and it should be fixed/changed

    I'll revel him on accident when I don't even notice him and then when I'm staring at him with purpose he never gets revealed.

  • MrPenguin
    MrPenguin Member Posts: 2,426
    No, it's fine as it is

    I don't have problems breaking him out at all. I wonder why so many people are having issues.

  • Hex_Llama
    Hex_Llama Member Posts: 1,846
    Yes and it should be fixed/changed

    I think it feels broken from both sides. When you play Ghostface, it seems like survivors can reveal you when they shouldn't be able to, and when you play against Ghostface, it seems like you can't reveal him when you should.

  • WexlerWendigo
    WexlerWendigo Member Posts: 1,867
    Yes and it should be fixed/changed

    It’s stupid for both sides honestly.

  • Adeloo
    Adeloo Member Posts: 1,448
    Yes and it should be fixed/changed

    honestly the change i would make to him :

    [NERF] Make it easier to reveal him

    [NERF] Let the survivor see their own stalk bar

    [BUFF] Increase power recovery base + instant recovery upon downing an exposed survivor

  • TapeKnot
    TapeKnot Member Posts: 248
    Other

    I don't think it's fundamentally broken, but there is some jank associated with the power that I'd like to see changed.

  • Nathan13
    Nathan13 Member Posts: 6,721
    Yes and it should be fixed/changed
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2251165#Comment_2251165

    lol same here

  • White_Owl
    White_Owl Member Posts: 3,786
    Yes and it should be fixed/changed

    It's broken af, completely unpredictable and unreliable for both sides. That's the main reason I don't play him much, even though I like him.

  • SOMENINJANAME
    SOMENINJANAME Member Posts: 294
    Other
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2253061#Comment_2253061

    I like this. It would make him even more stealth reliant, but would give him a faster-paced playstyle.

  • MrPenguin
    MrPenguin Member Posts: 2,426
    No, it's fine as it is
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2253061#Comment_2253061

    "[NERF] Let the survivor see their own stalk bar"

    That'd just let people know he's on them immediately and make it impossible to stalk anyone without them booking it if they pay any attention.

  • MrPenguin
    MrPenguin Member Posts: 2,426
    No, it's fine as it is
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2253464#Comment_2253464

    "[NERF] Let the survivor see their own stalk bar"

    How are you going to stealth if everyone knows the moment you start stalking them? That'd kill his stealth aspect. Unless you just want to get a basic M1 and that's it.

  • kaeru
    kaeru Member Posts: 1,568
    No, it's fine as it is

    PTB Ghostace was so awful that devs didn't give him a month for players get used to him. They buffed him immediately on release.

    Survivors had a sound cue when killer was stalking them and they could reveal them even if they didn't find him on the screen. It was completely unfair. Old Ghostface was nothing but m1 killer.

    Current system require survivor have ghostface right in center of screen and only if they see sertain amount of killer's body.

    Survivors have to learn how to reveal him.

  • Adeloo
    Adeloo Member Posts: 1,448
    Yes and it should be fixed/changed
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2255682#Comment_2255682

    i guess it could be visible if they reveal him ? If they reveal him they already know he is there ^^ Could be like showing only for 3-4 seconds like a benefit for actually counter him ? Because when you say it like that you are actually right ;)

    That or revealing him remove all the stalking he had on you ? or 50% of it ?

  • MrPenguin
    MrPenguin Member Posts: 2,426
    No, it's fine as it is
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2255835#Comment_2255835

    Yeah that would solve the stealth issue.

    Although idk about removing his stalk, he's already one of the weaker killers, we don't need to make him weaker.

  • TerrorUnleashed
    TerrorUnleashed Member Posts: 497
    Yes and it should be fixed/changed

    Yes.

  • Avignon
    Avignon Member Posts: 133
    Other

    I think the reveal "mechanic" aka look at him, is fine. It's also not broken as i've heard some survivors keep whineing about. It's spazzes out a little when you're really close to each other but that's about it. Most of the "buggy" stuff comes from me stalking from a lean and NOT showing more that 25% of my body and survivors not knowing this.

    It isn't "fundamentally broken" it's just weak.... 1) i'd like a reduction from like 32 to 24 meteers for the reveal , essentially terror range radius 2) Hooked / Downed survivors should not be able to reveal you, AT least hooked ones, definetly 3) Lower the cooldown of his power, by a fair bit, it's insane wraith has no CD and a movement speed buff and you need 30 seconds if someone spots you from across the map

  • Brokenbones
    Brokenbones Member Posts: 5,218
    edited June 2021
    Yes and it should be fixed/changed
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2258642#Comment_2258642

    I disagree, I've been behind a leaning ghostface, having his entire frame on screen and nothing happens

  • bm33
    bm33 Member Posts: 8,274
    Yes and it should be fixed/changed

    I can be staring straight at a Ghostface with nothing blocking my view and not reveal him but when I'm behind a rock that's taking up 90% of my screen I'll hear the reveal sound go off as he quickly passes by the 10% at top of my screen. It needs to be fixed.