Please explain this.

More coming with "improved" matchmaking.....

Damn, that's crazy, lol. I've had weird matches in the past, but there's usually some sense to it, like the average of the survivor's ranks is equal to the killers. But this is something else, haha.

alivebydeadight said:

@PhantomMask20763 said:
Vietfox said:

PhantomMask20763 said:

WAT?! Was it a bubba? Poor bubba 

@PhantomMask20763
Yeah, a rank 18 bubba with no addons. You can guess how he struggled.
I don't get what the hell happened with the matchmaking.

Online matchmaking at its finest

true XD painfully true, I went against a rank 1 doctor with ivory, tunneled, at the time I was rank 15, explain

Rank 11 solo survivor that ended up against a rank 2 wraith, here.

Vietfox said:

Rebel_Raven said:

Looks like an SWF that should have gotten dodged.

This is why telling me to just play SWFs to get better doesn't really work. 

Either they're high rank, or deranked, and they're communicating. 

Aside from the astronomical survivor score, that's about the average outcome for me.

@Rebel_Raven
 What? The problem was the matchmaking, not that poor guy facing swfs.

SWF screws with matchmaking. 

I shall explain it.
It's another normal day in DbD.

Vietfox said:

Rebel_Raven said:

Vietfox said:

Rebel_Raven said:

Looks like an SWF that should have gotten dodged.

This is why telling me to just play SWFs to get better doesn't really work. 

Either they're high rank, or deranked, and they're communicating. 

Aside from the astronomical survivor score, that's about the average outcome for me.

@Rebel_Raven
 What? The problem was the matchmaking, not that poor guy facing swfs.

SWF screws with matchmaking. 

@Rebel_Raven
I would understand if one of us was a rank 20, but take a look on our ranks!

As it stands match making will eventually give up, and throw you in with someone eventually taking into consideration availability only.  

It's harder for a 4 man to get a group because solos pop in and basically take up a killer lobby, so matchmaking struggles on, and poof. Wild mismatch.

The upcoming changes should fix that, but we will have to see.

@Rebel_Raven said:

Like SWF participants don't want easy matches?
They get that practically by default.

Says who, your biased opinion or have you surveyed over 60k people and gotten their opinions? That's also incorrect because I've been in swf before and we get matched with 4k hour players who mop the floor with us. Lets also not forget all the rank 20 ish swf groups that killers clean house on.

@Rebel_Raven said:

Yes, let's defy common sense and not believe a coordinated team isn't tougher than an uncoordinated one.

Now where did I ever say that?

Let's ignore evidence of SWFs gleefully mauling a killer. Dare I think it's a habit?

So someone posts a video of it happening, does that mean it happens every time?

Hey, speaking of where we got our info, where did you get yours? I doubt it's any more reputable.

Gee notice where I said I've been in matches and also how many rank 20ish forum posts there are complaining about it.

Between you, and me, where it's important here, your opinion doesn't weigh more than mine and is about as important as mine is to you. 

I never said it was but nice of you to point out the obvious.

The top of the mountain doesn't matter much when higher ranks can cheese the system and go against lower ranks, and call it teaching matches, or some such.

That applies to both sides and the only way newer people will play this game if their friends want them to is to you know play with their friends. I mean unless you want people to buy an additional copy and never play it unless it's with someone brand new to the game. You'll obviously be willing to pay for each and every copy of the game for those people right?

Or people playing on multiple accounts, one lower rank.

Now if this isn't contradictory I don't know what is, you don't want high ranked players playing with their low ranked newbie friends. Now you're complaining about them playing low ranked accounts with said low ranked newbies. So their damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Or derankimg themselves 

That seems to be a killer sided thing more than survivor sided thing judging by the comments on the forum.

Or when things go haywire and 2 sides battle that have no business meeting.

Ok not sure exactly what this relates to here.

powerbats said:

@Rebel_Raven said:

Yes, let's defy common sense and not believe a coordinated team isn't tougher than an uncoordinated one.

Now where did I ever say that?

Let's ignore evidence of SWFs gleefully mauling a killer. Dare I think it's a habit?

So someone posts a video of it happening, does that mean it happens every time?

Hey, speaking of where we got our info, where did you get yours? I doubt it's any more reputable.

Gee notice where I said I've been in matches and also how many rank 20ish forum posts there are complaining about it.

Between you, and me, where it's important here, your opinion doesn't weigh more than mine and is about as important as mine is to you. 

I never said it was but nice of you to point out the obvious.

The top of the mountain doesn't matter much when higher ranks can cheese the system and go against lower ranks, and call it teaching matches, or some such.

That applies to both sides and the only way newer people will play this game if their friends want them to is to you know play with their friends. I mean unless you want people to buy an additional copy and never play it unless it's with someone brand new to the game. You'll obviously be willing to pay for each and every copy of the game for those people right?

Or people playing on multiple accounts, one lower rank.

Now if this isn't contradictory I don't know what is, you don't want high ranked players playing with their low ranked newbie friends. Now you're complaining about them playing low ranked accounts with said low ranked newbies. So their damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Or derankimg themselves 

That seems to be a killer sided thing more than survivor sided thing judging by the comments on the forum.

Or when things go haywire and 2 sides battle that have no business meeting.

Ok not sure exactly what this relates to here.

You asked says who, and claimed I have a biased opinion. 
SWFs are coordinated unless maybe someone just invites some random people and they have absolutely no data on one another the entire trial beyond what the game tells them. 
Coordinated teams are tougher than uncoordinated ones. Right?
Because the game is generally easier for coordinated teams?

When you, and others are saying that filtering SWFs will basically destroy the game, it says a lot to me.
So, yeah, must happen enough. 
I mean if SWFs weren't putting killers through the wringer on the regular I doubt it would be an issue.

Hey, I've got experience in the game, too. Just because it's contrary to yours doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Hence the talk about opinions. 
Glad we're on the same page about each other's opinions, now, too.

Not sure how killers can join up with other killers with the Express desire to kill low rank killers.
Yeah, they derank, but it's harder to do that than it is to join mismatched rank survivors, and go to town when the lowest rank determines the killer rank. Or protect lower ranks to teach them, or boost them.
Killers are going to have a hell of a time organizing public teaching matches. It's not like KYF is in normal gameplay like SWF.

I'm not saying that SWF shouldn't exist. Not saying people shouldn't SWF how they want, either. 
Hey, play how you want.
Just know people are going to react to high rank players in what ever form deciding to kick around low rank people.
That's it. 
Definitely not trying to tell people how to play the game, unlike people basically demanding I just vs SWFs,  which, apparently will include the dev team. Heck, it does. I've see one Express that sentiment. 
It's going to basically become rule of law with the new matchmaking system.

I can't remember when I said people should stop doing something. Might have suggested people slow down some, killers and survivors alike, though. 

I'll grant you depipping is more talked about, and probably done more by killers. Then again survivors can more easily go kicking around low ranks.

Not sure what things going haywire and 2 sides meeting that shouldn't has anything to do with here??
Uhm. An swf of red ranks meeting a newbie? I know it wasn't intentional, but results are results.
Several other people reporting meeting killers a massive amount of ranks away including myself?

My wild guess is that rank 20 to 15 have a population so low that it end up matching them up with literaly anyone available after making wait a while.
Will preventing people that passed rank 15 to fall back in higher rank was a change made with good intention that also mean that new player can only play with new player or ultra casual player, wich mean a way lower player pool available.