Which killer has the worst teachables?
Following up on the survivor thread i made one for killers.
So yeah who do you think has the worst perks out of the killers?
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Huntress maybe?
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I’ve never used any of Wraith’s except to earn his adept.
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Um... yeah i think
Beast of Prey isnt exactly that useful (Specially if your good)
Territorial Imperative is largely useless, since not many survivor go into the basement without a good reason, mainly saving someone, or desperate for a chest
And Huntress Lullaby is only good with specific builds and killers, mainly the Doctor
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Wraith, useless, useless, and addicting but overall it doesn't do anything but make the game feel better?
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Wraith since bloodhound and predator are terrible and shadowborn is a comfort perk that takes up a slot that should probably be going to something else more impactful.
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Deathslinger
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Wraith
But dishonorable mentions go to nightmare and huntress for both having one meme perk (bloodwarden and huntress' lullaby) and two garbage perks
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Bloodwarden is actually a good perk though and can win games for you. Fire up and remember me are fun to use in builds that really compliment them (same with bloodwarden too.) Honestly all of freddy's perks are pretty meme-y and fun to use.
Huntress' are just straight-up bad.
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She's one of my favorite killers so it makes me sad to say, but huntress has absolutely abysmal perks.
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I agree with the ones listed here
But also Oni and Demogorgon.
I feel like Oni's perks don't do much, and the only good perk that Demo has is Surge, but even then when i play survivor against surge i dont think its really that effective.
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Wraith for sure. Dishonorable mentions go to Oni, Demo, Deathslinger, and Huntress.
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The sad thing about Deathslinger is the potential that can be seen in all 3 perks. Gearhead isn’t actually too bad IMO, and Dead Man’s Switch is actually ok with Furtive, and kinda good on Twins. Retribution should ditch the “punishment for cleansing dulls” nonsense, and make it so when Hexes are cleansed all survivors are afflicted with Oblivious and have their aura revealed for 10 seconds.
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I do agree about Oni, as far as I love him. His perks... I never use them and I rarely see them used by the Killers I face. Surge is quite rare, but I see it from time to time.
I'm really hesitating between Oni and Wraith.
Huntress' Lullaby has its use. I mostly play Survivor, and I see it quite often. It's not a game changer, in my opinion, but it takes me off guard sometimes (for the first skillcheck only so). But Oppression is more... oppressive if we speak about skillcheck perks. And the one from Doctor, I forgot its name. Overcharge?
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Twins hands down.
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Wraith, his best Perk is a quality-of-life one.
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Many people say Wraith, but I feel his perks are great for helping out new killers, that aren't good at tracking yet. Sure might not be good for veteran killers, but Shadowborn is always nice.
Imo it's got to be Deathslinger. Like when have you last seen anyone use any of his perks, outside meme builds or Retribution for Hex builds. They're bad for both newcomers and veteran players.
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Wraith. Huntress is a strong contender, but at least you can use one of her Perks (Lullaby) in very specific Builds. But for Wraith...
Predator-->Simply terrible, makes Scratchsmarks worse.
Bloodhound-->Really not needed, tracking Blood is easy most of the time.
Shadowborn-->Just gives you a bigger FoV, sure, you can get addicted to it, but if you never used it before, you will never think about using it at some point.
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Deathslinger. Him all perks are bad, even Gearhead
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deathslinger
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Freddy
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I'd say it's between Wraith, Huntress, and Freddy. I'm proooobably leaning toward Wraith, personally?
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I think huntress and blood warden are good enough to be used. Not sure why anyone would use any of wraiths perks
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Wraith.
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I don't, personally, but I guess those two perks have SOME chance to do SOMETHING. I don't think Wraith's perks do anything that is remotely worth a perk slot.
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Twins.
there are others with terrible teachables (e.g. Huntress or Wraith), but at the very least these Perks arent actively working against you as a Killer.
Hoarder spawns more chests for Survivors to use against you,
Oppression is okay but gets held back drastically by its way too long cooldown,
Coup De Grace is way too hard to get, has a very weak effect AND makes you so paranoid about accidentally losing a stack that you dont lunge when you should a lot of the time.
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wraith
literally 2 of his perks should be combined together and 1 of them should do more than what it does now
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I'm ngl, there's quite a few killers to choose from. Wraith's aren't good, Huntress is bad, Demo's aren't amazing, Oni's best ones are still only good in niche builds, Deathslinger's perks are so bad they shouldn't exist, Twins literally has a perk that helps survivors more than helps the killer, and Trickster's although good on paper are pretty bad (except Starstruck)
However if I had to choose out of those 7 who has the WORST teachables, I'd probably have to go with Wraith.
Predator doesn't do much, Bloodhound literally does nothing since blood can already be seen fairly easily, and Shadowborn... Monitor is better.
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I agree.
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Retribution in my opinion should be reworked into something else
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Definitely Deathslinger.
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Wraith i think 100% . Shadowborn is good for Nurse but other than that meh. PH might be up there as well.
Best has to either be Plague (Corrupt/IF) or Nurse (Stridor, Nurse's, Thano)
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I'll politely disagree. I do agree that Hangman's Trcik is completely useless -- I don't think I've ever seen anyone run it in a match before, unless it was someone looking for Adept Pig.
Surveillance is a very useful perk in the right build, though. Paired with Ruin, I get a lot of value out of it when playing Pig in particular, but as long as you have generator regression going on, it's a great info perk (even though it's currently bugged and unreliable at the moment at times). The louder gen repair sounds have also proven useful as well, at least to me.
MYC is a powerful perk on killers with high mobility -- it's a staple on my Wraith build. Once I get an initial hook, matches turn into one insta-down after another with it. Not a great perk on every killer, but far more useful than some of the other killer perks listed here. I think Pig has two solid, if situational, perks -- not the worst, IMO.
Speaking of Wraith -- yeah, it's probably him I don't think I've ever run one of his perks, unless it was for a Rift challenge.
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I love fire up and bloodwarden though. I wonder sometimes if tru3 wouldnt have done better against oracle utilizing brutal + fire up + CI + sloppy. The gens were getting done stupid fast regardless of any gen slowdown, fire up + brutal would have let him zone them and get rid of the pallets much faster. Sloppy would have slowed their healing down at least. CI for early pressure.
Bloodwarden is just funny
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This about sums it up. I personally feel Oni's are the worst. Nemesis I only use in a Furtive/nemesis/rancor build for mori challenges. Zanshin still just not valuable to me as you should be able to identify the areas it highlights anyhow, and blood echo meh short time of exhaustion on only injured members and hemmorage? Still not sure why that status effect is still be put on add-ons/perks.
wraith - I don't hate bloodhound, predator is not terrible but not worth a perk slot (only say not terrible because scratch marks are weird right now), and shadowborn is useful on some. BETTER than ONI.
Demo? Surge is awesome even with the prison requirements on it. It also syncs well with some other regression/slowdown perks. Rest are situational at best but still BETTER than ONI.
Huntress - Lullaby/undying is super fun to me love this perk, Territorial is great for basement builds/demo MYC basement build, Beast well ya. Overall though still BETTER then ONI.
Slinger - 2nd weakest in game overall to me but (BUT) Gearhead is actually not bad on m1 killers these days procs quite often, Retro is alright but shines with Haunted grounds, Deadmans switch just needs therapy not sure what they were thinking with that one and of course shows up in my web constantly. SLIGHTLY better then ONI.
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Oni
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BW is awesome I run it if the killer I am using has no way to slow the game down/regress it. Fire up I have always loved especially on MIKE you tend to lose a couple gens stalking and man his vault in tier 3 with fire up is so hilarious they never see it coming.
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Im wondering what that vault looks like with fire up and bamboozle on t3 myers. 👀
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Idk why I have not tried that. I personally liked fire up because it's a comeback perk and Mike usually (unless survivors suck) has to do some sort of a comeback so the extra speed in kicking, vaulting, dropping, picking up all come in handy with that task. Will def try that once though to see what it looks like.
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He probably just walks through the vault like its not there 😂
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Or dives through it.
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Legion.
One good perk plus two meme perks. Another reason why I despise Legion.
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Well Iron Maiden can be really helpful on Huntress and Tricker to heavily reduce reloading time, plus it can work even on Bubba, since its a sorta common strat to dive into lockers to evade a chainsaw attack, which just dooms you to a 1M, plus due to BBQ which comes from him, you can get some easy Exposed effects and info of people that tried to hide.
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What kind of killers do you play? I feel like I get a ton of value out of Surge with legion, plague and nemesis
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Fair. I can’t blame a situational perk for being good at what it does. Mad Grit though, as funny as it is, delete it.
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Seen a lot of funny videos of people using that perk and the survivors being greedy af getting rolled.
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Retribution is way better than anything Huntress or Wraith have
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Wraith and Huntress have awful perks
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Deathslinger comes to mind. You could argue Hag's for specifically this time in the game because they're all hexes, and Counterforce now exists.
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Ehhh idk about Hag, while yeah her perks are all Hexes, doesnt change how strong they can be, Ruin is meta, Devour Hope can come in clutch if the survivors dont deal with it fast enough, and Third Seal can help on some occasions
And while Counterforce is a thing... its just not that great of a perk, the faster cleansing is good but seeing a totem across the map aint, cleansing them like that will take forever, plus you first need to find a totem and hope that the one that got revealed doesnt get cleansed by a teammate before you get there.
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Blight. Undying is good with Devour and Dragon's Grip is a funny meme, but he's dragged down by the fact that Blood Favor is the single worst Perk for Killers in the entire game.
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