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Leatherface > Pig and Doc
Fine, Pig can slow down the game a little bit. But she needs to catch someone in the first place and she has nearly no tools catch someone fast (I don't count ambush cuz this works mostly only on unsafe pallets which u can win with basic M1 anyway). Also, RNG isnt always ur best friend.
So, Doc. He has a build in and better version of whispers, especially at the start of the match. He can slow down the game a little bit with madness 3. What else he got? Nothing like pig, he gets looped for 2 hits before he can hook someone, he has no tools.
Now, Leatherface. He can break pallets very fast with his chainsaw, which means he can catch up to survivors faster before they can reach certain loop spots. He can insta down, so in theory u can loop him half as long as pig and Doc (especially with good zoning). He can do a lot of damageb against very altruistic survivors (Imagine a survivor does a hook trade with BT against pig/doc compared to leatherface).
Don't get me wrong, I don't see leatherface as high tier, he has the lack of map pressure like pig and Doc. But at least leatherface can deal with pallets and loops faster and insta down, while pig and Doc are basic M1 killers in chases.
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It's really all a matter of opinion, for example I think Freddy has potential to be mid-tier with the best addons and some knowledge of the character but that doesn't necessarily mean he's better than some other killers. They're all unique in their own way
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But fact is that one of the main factor of tier list is how deadly and how fast killer can down survivors. Not the only, but the most important factorPhantomMask20763 said:It's really all a matter of opinion, for example I think Freddy has potential to be mid-tier with the best addons and some knowledge of the character but that doesn't necessarily mean he's better than some other killers. They're all unique in their own way
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What I'm about to say is based of the base killer with no add-ons.
Doctor can at least get some value from his power simply by walking around as you will automatically increase survivors madness. You also gain the skill-check effect (not greatly useful but still something).
Pig has the ability to hide her terror radius for a possible surprise attack (also not always useful) and when a survivor is downed her traps allow her to either prolong the game (relying sadly on RNG) or prevent end game escapes (also relying on RNG).
Leatherface has the potential to get that instant down once in melee range however if he misses his chainsaw even once then it would have been more beneficial to simply got for that double M1 hit.
I find Both Doc and Pig have more pros in their kit with less draw backs when compared to Leatherface. It will be completely up to the individual playing the killer to make the call on what they feel better suits their play-style but I personally find Pig and Doc better for those reasons.
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@DwightsLifeMatters said:
PhantomMask20763 said:It's really all a matter of opinion, for example I think Freddy has potential to be mid-tier with the best addons and some knowledge of the character but that doesn't necessarily mean he's better than some other killers. They're all unique in their own way
But fact is that one of the main factor of tier list is how deadly and how fast killer can down survivors. Not the only, but the most important factor
Well if we're talking about downing survivors, leatherface has got a deadly tool but it comes with a few downsides. It's slow to charge and easy to avoid with obstacles around, Sure he can break pallets but it still takes the same amount of time as if you were just going to kick it. If the survivor vaults a window while you're chainsawing then he can vault through it and if your not quick you get stuck in a tantrum. Pig and Doctor are loopable but they still slow down the game a bit. Even if it's by a few seconds or if there's bad rng, you could have gotten a hook in that time that they wasted. Leatherface doesn't really have that. At least in my opinion
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Well, yeah, at least Leatherface's power does something, even if it's not that useful.
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I used to main Pig. I currently main Traper, but bought LF for Chili (tired of waiting for it on the shrine...BHVR won). I would have to agree with the OP's assessment overall. LF is better than Pig. I only goof around with him, doing "chili" matches where I hook everyone once, then just down them over and over until they escape. I find it hard to NOT down all four. LF is much easier to 4k with than Pig. Not that Pig was hard to begin with, but LF is much better.
Caveat, I don't camp either.
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pig is a bad killer aka i cant play pig properly and dont use my ambush when i get looped
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They are all bad
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I think that Leatherface is the third worst Killer in the game (only Freddy and Legion are below him) because he has get within melee range in order to use his chainsaw and if the Survivor avoids the attack (which isn't hard at all) or stays near objects, then it becomes almost useless. If you crash into anything, then you have to wait for the long cooldown to finish before you can continue the chase. He becomes a basic M1 Killer. Doctor and Pig are mid tier Killers because they can use their powers effectively. Pig can slow the game pretty well with her traps (even if they are RNG based) and she can mindgame when she crouches. Doc can easily find Survivors and stop loops with his Madness and shock therapy.
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Oink oink ur wrong0
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The pig’s power isn’t the best traps, it’s the mind games you can use to catch survivors faster than most killers.0
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The Pig can easily get the first hit, meaning she cuts the chase in half. The ambush, although not easily, can be used for mindgames.
The Doctor can mess with survivors with madness, and his shocks can deny loops or at least lead to early pallet drops (but it needs a lot of skill to do it reliably).
Leatherface can destroy pallets faster. Sure, but only after revving the chainsaw... So in the end it doesn't change much. His chainsaw is even quite bad, it makes him a slug and survivors need just a window to force you to use the mallet, making your power irrelevant. He still gets looped because his power doesn't actually do anything about loops.0 -
I don't think Leatherface is as bad as many say he is.
Ans despite my best efforts to remain hidden on approach, Survivors always start running before I reach them as The Pig.1
