Dead hard is the literal definition of a Crutch Perk

And we are not even talking about all the other scenarios: DH is also a free escape once gates are opened. No other exhaustion perk can do that. You can avoid traps, ranged attacks etc. No other exhaustion perk can do that.

I am a fan of an idea someone else proposed where dead hard is a boost to speed when going healthy -> injured, the numbers would probably have to be fiddled with some to make sure it isn't just a better sprint burst. I'm also a fan of removing the dash, extending the i-frames, and mini-stuns the killer if they swing into you during dead hard. However the latter would need to be done with fixing the networking problems that cause exhausted on ground. I'm not a fan of ideas like blanket nerfing it or making it so you can't interact with pallets/windows after dead harding as they would just throw it into the trash perk pile. We already have enough garbage perks on both sides, I don't think we need to add more.

Did the killer catch you in the open by his own game knowledge ? Or maybe by several of the killer wallhack perks or add ons that were introduced into the game ?

Chili, Nurses calling, Mirror Myers naming just a few.....

It's more of a passive counter than direct (like hiding in a locker to counter bbq) but survivors working on different gens. Can't chase 4 different survivors at the same time on multiple tinkerer notifications if you are spread out. You can't counter the undetectable status though.

I'm confused how it offers a free escape. While you are trying to down them in the exit gate?

IME survivors wait till the last second to dead hard into the exit zone anyways, and at that point even if you knocked em down while running, they are probably in that zone where they escape (unless you are playing slinger and reel em in).

Anyways, my 2 cents is as someone who plays killer/survivor 60/40, dead hard is a non issue imo. If someone is looping you for x amount of gens, and they truly use dead hard for distance, the best play is truly just leave the chase patrol the gens and go after other survivors. If they are in a dead zone, bait it out. DH plays to dodge attacks are so predictable - Otz, tofu, etc do it all the time. But seriously - choose your battles. You are putting no pressure at all if you chase one survivor for a while and you make the survivor waste their dead hard and get exhausted and have to recover.

It is not what crutch perk is. crutch perk is perk that a player relies on and without the perk, he is significantly at disadvantage. it has nothing to do with failure or how difficult it is to use. It has everything to do with whether the survivor player relies on it to be successful.

For example, say you have trouble finding pallets and you often run into dead zones, Window of opportunity would be crutch perk for you because it eliminates your weakness as a survivor. I would never use it because I have memorized every layout of every map by heart, but some survivors need that pallet aura reading.

Dead hard is a exhaustion perk that allows you to greed loops and push the loops to their limit. a survivor typical objective is to bluff/vault windows until they are fully blocked before using strong pallets however bluffing/vaulting windows has inherent risks associated with it and Dead hard eliminates the risk and allows survivors to greed loops without the risk using its dash component and in some instances, the Iframe component(like dodging a hatchet or dead hard through a trapper trap etc.).

Pushing loops to their limit without dead hard is difficult so for most survivors, its crutch perk because greatly improves their performance in a chase.

The PTB has weakened version of dead hard where they lowered dash distance and Iframes, I wonder if that is going live due to threads like this. it was not even written in the patch notes.

That's not a what a crutch is at all. A crutch is something that makes a weak player better, but a strong player worse. Like how a crutch will help an injured person move around more quickly, but just be cumbersome to a healthy person.

Imagine an FPS that had a gun that aimed for you, but did 20% less damage. This would be a crutch because people who could aim well would be much better off with the normal gun with more damage, but newer players would benefit greatly from the autoaim.

Something that's strong in general isn't a crutch. Imagine that FPS had a gun that aimed for you, but did 20% MORE damage. Now it obviously still helps the weaker players a lot, but the stronger players will use it too because it's objectively good. Since it doesn't impair the stronger players, it's not a crutch.

Because in the situation that we are discussing here it is... it is not even that hard to understand. DH is turning a SAFE hit into an extended chase, without anything the killer can do. Its EXACTLY like a styptic agent would be in this situation or like already stated a 3rd health state. The consequences are exactly the same. Simply whiffing is a complete different situation. Thats on the killer, that happens due to interaction. Thats not the case with DH, because there is nothing the killer can do in loops. But of course you have to resolve to complete nonsense comparisons because you do not understand that. Thats typical and considering there are too many streamers using the same method of arguing, it is no surprise.

I can't dead any harder

Exept you can deny the perk by cleansing totem but for DH its a different story unless the survivor run in a dead zone

If it wasn't used for speed, and just to dodge hits, it should stagger killer for an extra second past his normal miss swing

If otz truly struggles against dead hard than I would say he’s not a good killer. Watch people like monto play killer, ive yet to see him ever have a problem with dead hard.

its the easiest perk to counter and as for ditsnce its a huge lol. It doesnt give any distance compared to other exhaustion perks

By this logic, every perk is a crutch perk. At which point the term 'crutch perk' has no meaning.

Why can't exhaustion perks just deactivate after certain amount of uses?

yes every perk could be a crutch perk but it depends on a player weaknesses. The title of this thread is misleading.

The title should be: Dead Hard is the definition of second chance perk.

I do not personally mind the perk.... but I do think the perk is very unfair for every killer bar nurse and spirit because killers get very few chances to hit survivors at loops on strong survivor maps and since this perk eliminates very few errors that a good survivor makes, it makes that survivor almost untouchable at strong loops and taking a chase with them with weaker killer is pretty much 100% losing. I think if you get many chances to outplay the survivor, like instead of 1 chance to hit a survivor every 20 seconds, you get 3 chances every 20 secnds(like once chance every single time nurse has blinks up) than the perk isn't so bad, even if you miss one blink due to dead hard, you get a chance to redeem it in next few seconds.... but for other killers, they miss one oppornity to down a survivor and this perk save them, the chase can be extended by a lot and it is often game losing.

moral of the story, super fun survivor perk, very unfair for killer.

In its current state its covering way too much distance. But looking at the ptb changes it seems to be going to a healthy spot. Even then I think dead hard is important to have as a survivor. I actually find the survivor role lacks nuance and is in desperate need of more perks like dead hard and deception. Something that rewards good timing and excellent positioning or manipulates information in a meaningful way. Yes your myer's and trapper will have an even harder time but the quality of current killer kits should not be balanced by terrible map design survivor should have more nuances and tricks.