Why shouldn't I tunnel?
It's the best strategy , it works and often leads to super altruistic teammates. It's not like any one expects survivors to ignore a hex or ignore a gen. We also don't expect survivors to make it fun for killers so I don't see why it matters if someone dies early.
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Hmm.
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Doesn't change my point does it ?
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Against good survivors it's a bad strategy.
Tunnelling is good when the survivors are bad or there's one bad survivor with 3 good survivors. You tunnel out the bad one and leave the 3 good ones at a disadvantage.
Now if all 4 are good, whoever you are tunnelling is gonna loop you too efficiently, you might not even be able to get them on death hook by the time the survs get all gens done.
But as we know, most survivor players are complete ######### at the game.
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Yeah but if all 4 are good it doesn't matter who you go for, so might as well be the one you've hooked.
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Who, with authority, is saying you shouldn't?
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There's no reason not to. Though if your tunnelling a good survivor for too long you will lose. It all depends on your skill vs theirs.
I will say don't come on here calling survivors toxic either if all they do is t-bag and click at you after. Also don't dc either for "gen rushing".
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It's not fun, it's unskilled, and it makes the game unplayable for the person you decided to tunnel. But you can do whatever you want and no none here is going to change your mind.
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Because it is not nice. That strategy is not regarded as scummy for nothing.
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Because it's a super boring way to play as a killer. Sure, I might get one kill (or hell, 4 kills if I tunnel right) but I'd rather have four survivors escape but had a fun game rather than kill one to four of them but was bored silly cause all I did was chase one person around all game.
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You can tunnel no one's going to stop you. It's a playstyle. Boring as hell but I personally rarely tunnel. I only go for the same survivor if he sticks around while his teammates run off doing an improper unhook. I will punish them for this mistake. But 9/10 times I am going for a different survivor. I personally don't like tunneling unless I have no other choice. But when I ever tunneled I noticed more survivors escaping. At least against a good team. Doing it against a poor team is just not fun for me.
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I was playing the swamp map as trickster
It's a super large map, one of the biggest maps in the game right now.
So by the time I got 1 hook 3 gens popped, so what am I suppose to do? patrol the remaining gens at 110% speed?
Nah I'll just camp and tunnel at that point game is only 4 minutes in and 3 gens are done. I'm 110% with no mobility.
So anyways the camping worked because I got a 4k what else am I suppose to do with such a large map? I can't patrol those gens realistically.
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Why not tunnel? Because it’s nothing short of miserable to be on the receiving end of it.
I am fully aware that the Killer is under no obligation to deliver a fun game for the other side, but the Killer is the only actual source of fun of the entire match, period. I want everyone to be able to test their skill against mine. And from there, what happens, happens. Effiency be damned.
That’s not to say I don’t get really sweaty. But I will never, ever tunnel a random and innocent survivor to death just so I can win at video game. Not because of Hadnofunfield or whatever map offering, not because of an obnoxious flashlight, and definitely not because they outplayed me. The one and only exception was old OoO users.
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If I catch an injured survivor who was recently hooked working on a gen or trying to self-care themselves, I'll go after them. Easy down and they already gave up their own DS.
Really their own fault getting caught out that way.
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I do agree with that no one likes being tunneled, but an out positioned injured survivor over a health one running towards shack why would I not go for the easy target
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It's regarded as 'scummy' because Survivor Mains are attempting to use peer pressure and insults to guide the actions of their opponent; Killers.
It's basically 'You don't want to be a bad/scummy/scrubby Killer! Don't: Slug, Camp, Tunnel, Use <x> Killer, use <x> perks, etc.'
It's a pressure tactic they do to try making easier matches by forcing Killers to play sub-optimally by banning anything effective under 'bad Killers do that!'
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Honestly, only because you want to give other players a break. It sucks to be tunelled, so of course people complain about it. I don't consider it bad bevaviour (heh), but it is super irritating. The argument, I suppose, goes that survivors do irritating things as well to killers. Round and round.
Over time, I've really smoothed out my annoyances with the game. I rarely 'get mad' at killers for their behaviour. I just find it irritating when the game is short and no fun and I've let my team down by not getting enough done in a match. Same with maps, I kinda don't hate any maps any more although I've only gotten RPD once.
But Hag.... [BAD WORD] hag. I hate those traps and there's too many of them.
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The ONLY reason to avoid tunneling is to be nice. If you want to optimize your play, you would be stupid not to tunnel, quite frankly.
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I don’t disagree that it’s the better option. When it comes down to it. I just smack ‘em down and move on from there.
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It isn't nice, but it is often the best move.
It is always in the Killer's best interest to remove one person from the match as fast as they can, especially if the Survivors are competent.
It doesn't matter how good they are, a 3v1 is much harder to win than a 4v1 and the sooner the Killer gets rid of someone, the more likely they are to win.
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Wraith mains
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I don't think so. Yes, there are some boring survivors out there who want killers to be held completely helpless, just like there are some boring killers out there who want survivors to be held completely helpless, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
I think tunneling is a genuinely unfun strategy, for both sides. A killer should only tunnel if there is a nothing else he can do, if that is the best play or maybe the only possible play in the moment. That is fine.
Tunneling because you can, because you want to tunnel is just...boring.
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You should
Making survivors (and killers) upset and salty is the most fun thing in the game
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The problem is, to most Survivors; tunneling is tunneling.
If someone is unhooked & their teammate bailed and I see them, wounded and alone? I tunneled! Clearly I was supposed to let them walk away.
If someone is unhooked and I'm chasing someone, who leads me right to the injured person self-caring under the hook/behind a rock 3 feet away from the hook? I tunneled! I was supposed to leave them alone!
An SWF run the same character with the same cosmetics, and I hit the same person twice in a 45 minute period? I tunneled! Clearly, I was supposed to remember everyone's names and keep a running list of where each person was!
That's why I stomp on this 'tunneling is mean/bad' BS; it's just peer pressure based on a fluid definition that has 0 meaning beyond 'We want to shame you', for the most part.
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I guess this is my problem. I would never just return to hook and tunnel but I'm not ignoring someone to be "fair"
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I usually return to the hook to chase the rescuer, or stop a stupid under-hook heal. And Survivors still call me a tunneler. Like I'm supposed to just ignore 2 people for...vague reasons.
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At high ranks you will have to tunnel at least some during most games, fact is if you play "nice" you will lose, period, gen speed just doesn't allow you to play nice. Sure it's unfun for the survivor but I'm not about to chase a healthy survivor who is already at the killer shack when I have an injured person 3ft in front of me who is unable to leave this specific, unsafe pallet. It's your team's responsibility to give the killer a chase after they unhook you, not the killer's job to run to the other side of the map because the unhooker was to scared to give the killer a hit.
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Because tunnels could cave in and-- oh wait... you mean dead by daylight. A game where sometimes somebody complains about someone doing something their own way. Good golly gosh. How dare people! Sorry you are yet another innocent hooman attacked by dese dese... Almonds! Have some pringles.
No but seriously, tunneling is usually the most annoying when done early game or when the survivors are clearly struggling. 3 gens or less? To me that could cause for tunneling. Because 4 people in disarray are far more likely to get their act together as a team over three, over two, and over a killer. So i can understand it, just not a fan when its used when there's no need for it.
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I never said I did.
I couldn't find a single person for 3 minutes. I went around the map twice in a circle did not hear a single ######### gen being worked on.
then i found someone and magically 3 gens done in that 1 minute.
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That isn't the reason for most players. Doing this means that survivor gets to have a miserable game for no reason. They didn't do anything to warrant not getting to play the match for more than a couple minutes.
I get that (for some reason) people take this game seriously and want to do absolutely anything to win, but that just makes the game miserable for everybody. The other survivors don't get to have fun being chased and are stuck being M1 bots and the person you tunnel just gets taken out of the game without a break or having any actual fun or a solid chance at a chase, unless they have a good set up.
It isn't about "trying to make sure killers never play optimally for easy wins". It's about making sure everybody gets to enjoy the game.
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If being removed from a match in a game where the opponent's goal is to remove you from the match ruins your fun of that game; why did you buy that game?
It's not your opponent's job to ask you if you had enough fun before they kill you. Nor are they selfish for not doing so.
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That doesn't really do anything in this situation. He's talking about tunneling being a strat not face camping so this is irrelevant.
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For me it's only tunneling at 5-3 gens and generally inefficient, way better I find to cast a wider net of hooks to help secure you later, once it gets to 2 gens though it's no longer tunneling it's asserting map pressure and trying to make it a 1v3 to get the snowball rolling. Hard not to call it fair game when you have the option of ds, it's why I always bring ds on survivor.
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I can tunnel during the entire match to make games easier on my end. But I choose not to, because I prefer fun for both sides.
I only tunnel when it is necessary.
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Depending on how the match is going tunneling can be a smart move. If they are 3 gens done and you know that person is now on death hook get them out of there ya?
Tunneling at start of match doesn't make much sense. Killer's time can be better spent pressuring other survivors instead of camping hook and chasing down that 1st guy (also scummy since you didn't give that person a chance to play the match).
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So DBD is like little league, where it's a requirement that everyone get field time every game?
And this responsibility falls on the killer? Not the game, not the other survivors, it's the KILLER that is expected to manage the expectations all all their opponents. Once that's handled, are we then allowed to compete?
The game is M rated, an adult that's put out early should be able to just jump in queue for another match, without a participation trophy or a tantrum.
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Tunneling is fueling the "toxic playstyle" cycle. It is a poor strategy punishing both sides with less points. You can play however you like but you should expect 2 kills at max with a lower amount of pips and BP. Higher rank survivors will adapt and genrush you to death making the experience dull for both sides.
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Because you have to amuse survivors, according to the holy saint rulebook.
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Some people here write like it is my job as killer to give the survivors a great playing experience, I play as I see fit, sometimes I tunnel sometimes I don't sometimes I facecamp sometimes I don't, I play however I feel like playing
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Tunnel if you want. It's a dull play style and sucks for the survivor but it's your choice. Just don't complain how survivors play and what perks they use either because survivors aren't suppose to cater to killers either.
Both sides have ridiculous expectations for each other.
"I was just unhooked you have to run to the other side of the map and wait 30seconds before chasing a survivor."
"You shouldn't be able to save your teammate when I'm standing in front of the hook"
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Because its a lame strategy that makes the game miserable for one survivor. And that survivor may be some clueless chill solo player that is just trying to have fun.
If tunneling was done only against toxic / swf players i would get it but sometimes tunneling is done to the baby dwight with 100 hrs and at that point good job you just sacrificed someone with 100 hrs gj.
Game should be balanced so that unfun mechanics wouldn't be possible or heavily punished on both sides but till then its all up to you to decide how to play.
I personally feel bad tunneling unless the survivor tried to taunt me, its really something i dislike doing
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Just breathe in and out
Count to 12
1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10...11...12
You have now counted Borrowed Time
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For some reason it’s more fun for me if I know everyone is having fun. I rarely do it unless it’s the end of the game and I have zero kills. I don’t blame others for doing it either.
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The problem with this is you can go from 4 gens to 1 in a blink of an eye. I have pretty good success if I ignore one survivor and only try to hook 2/3 untill one is dead
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Well of course everything is circumstantial, if gens are popping that far people are clearly spread out and need pressuring so focusing on a single kill isn't going to be logical or another 2 is going to pop just as fast.
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Against solid teams most of the time it will get you one kill while you stand in the same place the whole time. Can’t tell you how to play your game. If that’s the play style you enjoy then go for it. The negative is you will never really learn how to get good enough for 4K quality teams.
I main killer The competition for me is what keeps me coming back. There is no competition in tunneling. Like I said if that’s the game play you enjoy knock yourself out.
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You can, its a viable strategy
But yknow...
Some of us actually want to have fun
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No one can stop you tunneling but personally when I play killer, I'll play how I want killer to play against me. It's kind of douche move to tunnel someone out to get the win when there no rewards from it.
Sure you can continue tunneling but to me, it's boring way to play and I dont see any fun either tunneling someone to death.
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Sure but as i hit 12 the survivor runs out of the exit gate...where's my counter?
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Yeah camping is rarely the right move but if I find both the unhooker and the unhooked on a gen together I can only chase one so it makes sense to go for the last me closest thing death. Especially if they didn't heal
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Would you ignore a 50% done gen and start on a new one ?
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