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Killer is stronger than Survivor

gatsby
gatsby Member Posts: 2,533

As long as there are no key or BNPs.

Your chosen Killer is Blight, Nurse, Spirit, Pyramid Head, Twins or Huntress.

And you run perks from this list: BBQ, Tinkerer, Pop, Ruin, Undying, Corrupt, Sloppy, Infectious or Thrilling.

At high ranks at least, this should get a pretty reliable 3-4k every time.

The second you start to deviate from this list your chances of winning decrease substantially and you become a lot more vulnerable to SWFs and general gen rushing.

It’s weird because the easiest way to lose as Killer is creativity

Comments

  • Ikr it is very weird

  • NoOneKnowsNova
    NoOneKnowsNova Member Posts: 2,785

    Remove every killer except Nurse and Spirit from that list and you're mostly right.

    Blight is too map rng, PH both has too much map rng and has no map mobility, twins isnt strong enough after their nerf and Huntress is just a weaker Slinger.

    That's not to say you cant win with these killers, it's just that they arent extremely reliable unless you're really good with them + with some get a good map.

  • CornHub
    CornHub Member Posts: 1,864

    Personally, I've found Blight to be the only other killer besides Nurse that doesn't get screwed due to map rng.

  • Tvångsrunkar
    Tvångsrunkar Member Posts: 19

    You have the upper hand to gather a team (SWF) and use the powerful tool of comunication to destroy us. We dont have anything but ourselves and the crows. And at the end it also comes down to what map we are playing on 😉


    I main PH, rank 6.

  • DwarvenTavern
    DwarvenTavern Member Posts: 2,495

    Twins is strong in the regards of camping and slugging. Which, I loathe that play style. It's so boring.

    Blight is as NoOneKnowsNova (interesting name) said: Map RNG based. He's a very powerful killer, but you gotta try them to see what it's like. Plus, you gotta practice religiously with them.

    Nurse is a killer that has a learning curve to use, learn that and you'll be dangerous.

    Spirit is... Spirit. I want to like her, but she's very powerful with little training.

    Pyramid Head? Why Pyramid Head? I never truly felt he was OP, annoying without a doubt, but not OP.

    Huntress is another killer that requires training.

    Now, gens in themselves get done really really fast. So Ruin helps balance that out. To counter ruin, just do gens and don't get off the gen or be the dedicated scout. If someone else is doing that, then you do gens, Pop is fine, what's wrong with Sloppy, Are you seriously arguing about BBQ?

  • NoOneKnowsNova
    NoOneKnowsNova Member Posts: 2,785

    There are some maps that he just doesnt do well on for me. Lerys, RPD and to an extent, The Game and Hawkins are bad maps, due to them being inside, making his rushes alot weaker.

    Additionally, he struggles on some of the Coldwind maps as theres very little to hit off + if he tries to rush into cow tree he slides off of it.

    Otherwise he shares the same strengths and weaknesses with most killers, other than maybe Red Forests realms which I find he does well on.

  • Kebek
    Kebek Member Posts: 3,676

    Yes in asymetrical games a 1 killer is stronger then 1 survivor. A true statement indeed.

    Ok now for an actual responce. I'd say that with any killer and any build even if it was perkless legion you can get 3-4ks pretty consistently at red ranks since the disparity between optimal gameplay of 1 killer and optimal gameplay of 4 survivors is so big.

    Survivors can't afford to have 1-2 weak links in their team as a decent killer will capitalise on that and snowball the whole team of that weak link. In general terms of red rank games, killer is strong as long as there is at least 1 potatoe on the survivor team.

    But once you face all 4 at least decent survivors, it reverses and even if you're good meta killer with meta build, you will struggle a lot to beat them. But that's rareish, most of the time, matchmaking won't give you all 4 good solo survivors.


    Good killer player is stronger as long as all 4 survivors aren't equally good as well which is the case for most matches thus the higher kill rates and general suffering that solo que can be.

  • justbecause
    justbecause Member Posts: 1,521

    Every killer can bring you kills it all depends if ur opponent has higher skills than you do and once they do have it they proceed to blame game for that and not their skill

  • ThiccBudhha
    ThiccBudhha Member Posts: 6,987

    If there is one thing I have learned about what the power role is, or what maps are good for which side, or which circumstances the pendulum swings the opposite direction, it is that literally nobody agrees with anything other than generic blanket statements.

  • SomberNokk
    SomberNokk Member Posts: 732

    Is Oni not good enough for this list?! Oni is good too ya know...

  • Dodgingbears
    Dodgingbears Member Posts: 252

    You don't understand this game at a high level. Killer is only individually stronger. It is impossible for you to think survivors don't have the advantage if you have ever watched comp or high level tournaments.

  • stikyard
    stikyard Member Posts: 526

    Only because the chances you get paired with 4 good Survivors is pretty low.

    Killer is designed to win chases and that's important.

    Only the better Survivors can loop Killer's without mistakes and, even then, you can end up in a 50/50 situation that is basically luck.

    Killer's can use the weakest link in your team to draw the Survivors out.

    Anyone who needs to brush up on their looping game can mess around in tutorials or custom match with a friend. If you want be a good Survivor, you need to be able to loop. Otherwise, you will be the weakest link that your team needs to come save, creating a snowball.

  • WishIcouldmain
    WishIcouldmain Member Posts: 4,082
  • Northener1907
    Northener1907 Member Posts: 3,012

    I am Freddy main i have so much 4K with him. So your list are not telling anything lol

  • chargernick85
    chargernick85 Member Posts: 3,171
    edited July 2021

    Both are very strong in right hands. Huntress is better because she can snowball very easily and IMO Slinger can not at least not like her anyhow. I use both of them and do quite well love them both. Huntress is also more fun IMO. So I agree with you.

  • NoOneKnowsNova
    NoOneKnowsNova Member Posts: 2,785

    To me, Slinger is stronger due to three main reasons.

    The first one is the TR. Slingers is smaller, hard to hear, and he can shoot you from outside his TR if hes using M&A. Huntress has a small TR but a huge lullaby, relatively easy to hear, and on most maps you cant be hit outside this lullaby area.

    The second reason is their zoning. Huntress can only zone once she's drawn out her hatchet, as she isnt a threat beforehand. Slingers existence zones survivors. He can scope quickly leaving little reaction time, causing survivors to take different movements.

    Finally, Slingers power is useful on almost every loop due to his ability to shoot quickly. Huntress on the other hand is a 110 killer on many loops.


    This isnt to say Huntress doesnt have her own advantages, but to me Slingers advantages outweighs Huntresses.

  • unluckycombo
    unluckycombo Member Posts: 582

    It's true. I'd even go farther to argue though that the list could even be extended with more Killers if we only assume average maps (So no Hawkins, Haddonfield, Midwitch, Cowshed, etc.). Add that in with a few more perks and I think some other Killers could be a major threat too, especially since most SWFs are... well, just that- Survivors playing with friends.

  • WishIcouldmain
    WishIcouldmain Member Posts: 4,082

    While Slinger has a stronger 1v1 with some good stealth. He is too weak to me in he other two pinnacles of strong killer mobility and snowball. Huntress comes with a good 1v1 but also great snowball potential. While Slinger’s is quite bad. Additionally Huntress can give long range shots to negate not having mobility. But Slinger can’t. And a pre dropped pallet can delay him while Huntress can hit over

  • danielmaster87
    danielmaster87 Member Posts: 9,414

    Survivors are stronger. Any killer can be overcome by efficient survivors.