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Do you think people are dcing because of the optimization.

dspaceman20
dspaceman20 Member Posts: 4,699

I'm not trying to excuse people who DC (and if i am that's not my intensions) but do you think that most people are dcing because of the poor optimization? Most of us have experienced lag causing survivors and killers to lose out on chases making it very frustrating. I'm going to assume the best and say that they got fed up with the optimizing and decided not to play. What do you think?

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  • Shroompy
    Shroompy Member Posts: 6,691

    People will DC over anything, if they're dcing because of poor performance then they might actually have a good reason for doing so for once

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    No. Most people are DCing for the same reasons as before (mainly, they believe their opponents should not be allowed to use certain strategies that they don't like, nor should they be "forced" to stay in a trial that doesn't go perfectly from start to finish).

  • Apollos
    Apollos Member Posts: 1,052

    I always assume it's an accident unless the timing makes it obvious. Sometimes the game crashes or their connection drops. The game can be incredibly unstable with that sort of thing, so you should always give them the benefit of the doubt.

    Like I've had a few matches where someone DCs while they're on a gen or right when the gate opens, or where a killer carries me into a corner and eats the wall until they DC.

    However, if they DC the second they're picked up or during a mori or right when the killer makes themselves present, then you can pretty much assume it's a tantrum. Same with a killer who's been looped a couple times and suddenly the match ends.

  • Magicmaster0702
    Magicmaster0702 Member Posts: 217

    Until it gets fixed I'm just gonna play something else. I love this game, but I can barely play it with the constant frame freeze and stutters.

  • Yatol
    Yatol Member Posts: 1,960

    nope, i played killer during the no DC penalty period and many survivor would dc at the slight disadvantage, special mention to the feng min who spent the early part of the game trying to troll me only to go down because they forgot to mend, and all the other survivor dcing really quickly after getting downed.

  • indieeden7
    indieeden7 Member Posts: 3,400

    Speaking from my experience, this is the casse for at least a small portion (certainly not all) of those that have been DCing, somehow going down to a hatchet or throwing knife through a solid wall doesn't exactly encourage me to stay in the game.

  • RenRen
    RenRen Member Posts: 1,443

    I'm pretty sure the majority of people DC'ing aren't DC'ing cause of the optimization.

  • Jarol
    Jarol Member Posts: 1,985

    Really, people have their reasons for disconnecting at this event because they get away with not wanting to play against a certain killer or survivor, wanting to ruin the game at all, optimization and connection problems, etc. They get away with Behavior wanting to disable this feature for their anniversary.

  • GrimoireWeiss
    GrimoireWeiss Member Posts: 1,452

    I haven't DCed yet, even with all these problems, but I understand people who do it because of that (although they should probably play another game meanwhile). Sloppy Butcher is basically an instadown nowadays and Dead Hard is a true health state because you freeze in place whenever someone uses it.

  • felix452
    felix452 Member Posts: 59

    Well I notice same people are dcing before the match start I think it still off or at least for console

  • truegod_10
    truegod_10 Member Posts: 393

    I definitely dc'ed if the match was especially laggy or the freezing was too bad. I was trying to finish the rift and some games were alright (though they still had lots of issues) but others had constant freezes to the point I could not repair or engage in chase. In those games I would dc to move on and try to finish my challenges. Now I am done playing until they fix the issues.

    Its not fair to my team in those matches, but I was going to be no help regardless in those games. Also, it is definitely the devs fault at that point for allowing the game to go live like this.

  • humanbeing1704
    humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 8,999

    I've had to DC a few times on ormond for some reason that map is worse with the current lag situation the map is actually unplayable

  • Marc_go_solo
    Marc_go_solo Member Posts: 5,327

    There's no question there are some who dc because of poor optimisation, which was the reason the dc penalties were removed in the first place.

    Regrettably, some players are taking advantage of this scenario. BHVR did the right thing by removing the penalties due to optimisation, but maybe it was unexpected that the problems were to stretch on as long as they have.

    When they unveil the patch we all hope will fix this, I hope they'll reintroduce the penalties either at the same time, or a week later to make sure the patch actually worked.

  • IronKnight55
    IronKnight55 Member Posts: 2,963

    We don't really have any proof that most people are doing it because they don't like the way the game is going. Have you played on console? I'd say it's almost unplayable (at least on the Xbox One and PS4).

  • danielmaster87
    danielmaster87 Member Posts: 9,440

    I think most people DC because they're pretty and won't play the match out after something unfortunate happens to them. People have pretty much abused and lied about their intentions in DCing, too, in order to get the DC penalty turned off permanently. "Oh, my Internet went out. Devs, turn the DC penalty off. This isn't fair." They're either genuine but stupid because they keep trying to play the game that they know they get disconnected on, or they rage quit, which is more likely.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    So you think it's a coincidence that the DC rate noticeably increased after the penalties were disabled?

  • IronKnight55
    IronKnight55 Member Posts: 2,963

    I'm just saying we don't have proof to say that is why players are quitting. I do know that console performance is the worst it has ever been.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    So you do think it's a coincidence that even though performance has remained the same before and after the DC penalty was disabled (because there was no update), the DC rate increased. Got it.

  • IronKnight55
    IronKnight55 Member Posts: 2,963
    edited July 2021

    I'm saying we can't 100% say people are just rage quitting because they got outplayed when we can't prove it. Maybe it's because people are having a lot of problems with performance right now. Have you played on console?

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    The performance didn't change, the only difference is that the DC penalty was disabled. Furthermore, we do know when they DC: being found first, being hooked first, losing too many gens, and so on. I'd say it's a fairly simple conclusion that anyone would make.

    We can't 100% prove anything because we can't read minds. You have no proof it's due to performance issues either. However, we do have plenty of evidence, starting with the basic fact that nothing changed about performance before and after the DC penalty was disabled.

  • IronKnight55
    IronKnight55 Member Posts: 2,963
    edited July 2021

    That's exactly my point. We can't prove anything. I'm just saying maybe performance is why some are leaving.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Well, there's plenty of evidence that you're wrong, like I already said.

  • IronKnight55
    IronKnight55 Member Posts: 2,963

    We can't prove anything. That's all I'm going to say about it. Neither of us can back anything up with actual evidence. 🤷‍♂️

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    We can't prove anything.

    Not in the sense you mean, no. Because even if I were to, say, do a poll, people could be lying. If I were to attach them to a hypothetical device that can read minds, the device could be faulty. And so on.

    Neither of us can back anything up with actual evidence.

    Except me, because I did, several times now. Your only "rebuttal", such as it is, is to say that "we can't prove anything", which is like saying gravity is "just a theory". It's technically correct, but also completely irrelevant to the argument.

  • DragonMasterDarren
    DragonMasterDarren Member Posts: 2,848

    i think so, if the game is running at 10 FPS while your console/computer's fan sounds like a jet turbine then i think DCing for the sake of your system's health is perfectly justified


    that being said, there are also a lot of people who DC just because "i don't feel like playing on this map" or "i don't feel like facing this killer" or "i got hit through a pallet that was already down" etc, etc, etc

  • Fog_King
    Fog_King Member Posts: 688

    I think the problems that are happening make some people decide to disconnect, but it's not only that, because people disconnected way before this chapter was released.

  • IronKnight55
    IronKnight55 Member Posts: 2,963

    Yep. Optimization is awful on console right now. When I play on Xbox one my game will literally freeze for like 2 seconds very often (especially during chases). I don't usually DC because of it, but I feel like it 😆

  • JPLongstreet
    JPLongstreet Member Posts: 5,885
    edited July 2021

    The recent rash of dc's was absolutely due to the matchmaking lock penalties being off. If they had stayed on, the much much fewer dc's would have been from either going against Nemesis and/or RPD map & leaving due to that lagfest mess on most platforms, or due to normal salt on both sides.

    Either way the number of dc's would have been closer to normal, maybe slightly elevated with the state of the game.

    However I also believe some players would also have stopped playing due to the game's current performance issues and the penalties still up.

  • Artemis5
    Artemis5 Member Posts: 49
    edited July 2021


    I play DBD on PC and I can only speak for myself - I've disconnected a ton this past week because I moved to a different place and my internet kept cutting out - not once did I DC because I wanted to rage quit, I actually wanted to play games to use my cake offerings and get some extra BP. So not everyone is rage quitting when they DC, but I definitely know there are some that DC to rage quit and that's not cool if they do it often or if it happens to you when you play often (that others DC, cause then it would suck for you). Whenever a match sucks for me, I'll rather just die on hook, but I won't DC (except very rarely, if I REALLY get tilted, and if I do on the rare occasion DC, I take a break because that means I'm not enjoying the game and should take a break from it) as I want to at least get SOME BP or maybe I made a bit of progress on a challenge that I would lose if I DC'ed. I would also never DC at the start of a match, just because it's a killer or map I hate, I feel everyone needs to roll with the punches and at least give the match a try. Do things I hate in the game make me want to DC sometimes out of frustration and just pure spite (to spite a killer for instance), yes. Will I though? No. Usually when I DC is not intentional and it sucks cause I get kicked out of the game and can't go tell the people I just played the match with "Hey, my internet went out, that's why I DC'ed, I'm so sorry!".

    And a lot of you will probably say don't play the game if you know you have a good chance to DC and I would agree, I'm sorting out my internet problems here and seems like I finally got a solution for the package loss and drops I've been experiencing, so now my connection is more stable here at my new place. I did however need to test possible solutions out on live games and I DC'ed a ton because initially nothing worked.

    So TLDR; not everybody DCs on purpose. If they all DC at the start of a match though or after being hit, it's suspicious.