Fellow killer mains what do you see in a lobby that makes you no longer play nice.

Sooner than 6 seconds. People who do those last second swaps just send the message that they're trying to trick you at the lobby screen. Having your stuff in order well before that point is ideal. Swapping in at 20 seconds sends a whole different message than swapping in at 6. Being able to swap at all is kind of a survivor privilege since Killer selection gets locked in.

For me, it's 4-Mans that all have the same cosmetics. I'll usually try to play nice and not tunnel people out of the game and such, but if all 4 people are running the exact same cosmetics, I can't tell you apart from your buds and I can't gurantee you won't suffer an accidental tunnel because of it.

Idk man, if you guys all wanna be matching and stuff like that, that's cool and all, but if I can't tell people apart as Killer, it makes it 10× harder for me to play nice because it feels like I'm just smacking the same person over and over again all game.

It's a combination of things really. Keys don't bother me per se, the survivor may have an Archive challenge like "escape through the hatch". It's when there are one or multiple keys with a Haddonfield offering and the survivors are obviously very good, they just want an easy match or to bully the killer.

Last second switching should have been removed ages ago, imo.

lol.

Because that typically means that it's a lobby so sweaty, that they want to be in a SWF, but not give the killer a warning in advance that he's dealing with something stronger than the typical lobby. So that's more meticulous and probably not just a bunch of buddies chilling.

A lot of people on here seem to think keys are the pinnacle of evil. I've also seen a lot of people say in a similar sentiment that when they see a key they tunnel the person out. Well while you are tunneling them out and ignoring everybody else, all they need to do is do gens for free since you aren't pressuring them and then pick up the key and escape. Tunneling/camping the key carrier is what enables 3 mean key escapes.

except thats showing them mercy because the others can just escape with the key because you thought you were being ruthless when instead you just played into their hand.

keys activate when the survivors do 1 more gen than survivors alive. tunnel/camp one of them=the others do gens. by the time you actually get the key holder out of the game, the survivors have done enough gens to just pick up the key and leave, because tunneling and camping doesnt do anything to pressure the other survivors off gens.

I guess im referring to people playing together mostly. i dont want to use the term swf because people think that makes you godlike but most of the time swfs are just 4 bad people all playing together anyway.