Can we all just agree that Dead Dawg Saloon is a terrible map design?

I like it both sides

I like it in both roles though I do think that the Saloon needs to be redone and at least a third of the breakable walls on the map need to be removed.

I know, though those aren't the ones that needed to be removed, but hey, it's Behaviour.

I don't get why people hate it so much, i like it both on killer and surv side. Haven't tried it with the open door though but i can't imagine it being that much different.

Saloon is fine. Main building is strong, most pallets are medium strength, and every others vault is either mediocre or can be made mediocre by kicking walls. Compared to RPD, Saloon is perfectly acceptable.

Saloon is far from terrible design. It has a mix of safe and unsafe gens, most of the pallets can be played around, the strong windows are weakened considerably by breaking walls, it isn’t insanely huge, it has quite a few tiles that can be played. The totem spawns are decently hidden for the most part, but not absurdly so. It doesn’t render any killer powers useless or oppressively strong. It has plenty of drops and vaults but they’re not totally safe so you have to actually pay attention when running the killer.

It’s a map that actually allows either side to win if they play it right. It isn’t full of safe pallets like Cowshed or safe gens like Haddonfield, which is a good thing. But on the other hand it isn’t full of dead zones - one part of the map is pretty sparse, but it’s also very open so you can easily see the killer coming and run to safety.

I actually think Saloon is one of the best maps they’ve done. Perfect? No. But I’m happy to get it playing either role and if I lose, it’s usually because the other side played it better than me.