Why can Generator be popped in 20 Seconds?

This is the issue that will arise with just MMR coming online and no balance to accompany it.

Killers who are good will eventually hit a wall of the sweatiest sweat every single game unless they purposefully do bad to try and get better games. This can be avoided if we address the absolute nonsense survivors are capable of at high tiers so that way having a high MMR as killer isn't going to be an eventual uninstall.

Individual killer MMR is just a band-aid. I don't want to sweat every time I play Nurse, but it's gonna get that way eventually... And I don't really like most of the other killers, I don't want to be forced to play another killer just to not have sweaty games. It's a delicate balancing act that I don't know if the team is ready for/capable of.

Should've just applied pressure

More seriously this isn't an MMR problem, these teams existed before.

You should be glad they used their BNP's in the first (and also a corner) gen. This could be way worse if they used to counter a 3-gen setup and rush through a final gen. Doesn't look like real high MMR to me, just friends having fun.

Also, if you don't like this happening, swap your ruin + undying for pop + corrupt. That's way more consistent on high mmr.

Honestly, it isn't the gen pop at 20 seconds you want to worry about. That tells you many things - it's a genrushing team with BNPs/Prove Thyself, 3 or more survivors are at the finished gen, and it's time to sweat while you still have time and interrupt them from grouping up. It has counterplay, albeit limited.

It's people splitting up on 3-4 separate gens you should fear. The only counter to this is Ruin on a mobility killer, survivors choosing bad gens to repair that are close together or unsafe, or mass slugging. All of these counters are unreliable. 1 gen popping at 20 seconds isn't that bad - 3 gens popping at 90~ seconds is. At that point, you've likely gotten one hook and the survivors only have two gens left to repair, and you can bet they're splitting up on the remaining ones as we speak.

I hope they release a perk which counters splitting up on gens. Something like reduced repair speed for each separate generator being repaired at once, or all gens regressing a good portion when a gen is completed, or something.

I'm finding success on Nemesis with Ruin, Undying, No Way Out and BBQ. Since Nemesis isn't particularly mobile and is very loud, Tinkerer isn't as good as it could be, and since he's not the strongest killer and is slow at gaining tiers of his power, you're more likely to reach the Exit Gate stage with 1-2 survivors dead, or less. No Way Out essentially gives you an extra generator's worth of time before you need to worry about the gates, and a minute of being on a resource-depleted map, all Vaccines used, and with Tier 3 Nemesis being told where you are is often all you need.

Well they had the offering to spawn together, there were 3 toolboxes with BNP, the four of them were working on the same gen and they had Prove Thyself, that's why it pops so soon. A weirdly (un)coordinated SWF, I don't know what they wanted to achieve lol

They burned all their gas at the start and lost because of it. I don't see the problem. Like others have said, the optimal strategy is to have all 4 Survivors split on different gens. You should be grateful they all stacked on one. Not very smart of them.

Brand new parts can suck especially 3

Why is this even a question? They had 3 toolboxes with BNP and probably used all of them at this one gen (which is extremely stupid, if they would have splitted up and used those individually you would have had a harder time). This is an extreme example and will not happen in your usual dbd pub match.

Losing 1 or 2 gens in higher ranks is completely normal and means nothing. Even if they split up and do 3 during the first chase (even tho it's not optimal for you), you can still win. Depends on various things.

You even said you're doing fine without add ons, and funnily this is something i've encountered multiple times in dbd - killers who are relatively good and doing fine complain the most, if in 1 out of 10 matches they don't get a flawless victory and completely destroy survivors. Since the MMR is active again i have to deal with all the bullshit 24/7, survivors abusing every single thing in their favour, toxic behaviour which makes me toxic in the next game, full meta perk setups, map offerings etc., it's just not fun, so survivors inappropriately using BNPs to do a single gen very fast and give you (thanks to boring Tinkerer) a big snowball potential, is in my opinion not the biggest issue right now.

You know you're not helping yourself by posting that result, right? One could interpret it as survivors needing a buff, as theoretically you're facing survivors of your skill level with SBMM on, and even bringing 3BNPs they still got 4ked by a killer with no addons.

They used 3 spare parts (which is an ULTRA RARE item), it's not like things like that happen constantly, so I'm not sure what the point of your post is to be honest.

Actually that's the point of Spare Parts, to pop gens faster and improve your chances of escaping on THAT match.

How does someone get snowball potential with tinkerer? With no instadown he gets most of the time a hit and its rare that nobody spots him when there are 4 survivor. Most of the time you wouldnt even get fast enough to a gen without a movement killer if there are even two survivor with prove thyself.

There is no problem. Gens pop fast at the beginning, because there are 4 healthy survivors. And later gens get popped very slow, as survivors get hooked, injured, sacrificed and the fact that your got a 4k proves it. I don't understand the "problem" at all.

They had 3 BNPs, 1 of them on the fastest-repairing toolbox in the game as well and another on the longest-lasting one.

Putting multiple of them into the first gen is pretty much just a "lol lets see how fast this gen can go" meme, it would be way worse for you if they used them on seperate gens or saved them for later for a contested gen or something. They brought 42000 bloodpoints worth of items and add-ons just to get that gen done as fast as possible.

And sure, I'd be more than happy to see the BNP reworked into something else as it's an add-on that can get pretty wacky when multiple are in the trial, especially if people actually use them more strategically than dumping them into the first gen they see.

The generator popped fast because the survivors threw all of their resources at it. They had all 4 survivors, using toolboxes and BNPs, and got it just as you arrived. While annoying it’s hardly the best use of their resources, as demonstrated by the fact that you killed them all.

What exactly are you looking for here? Do you want the devs to nerf gen speed when survivors stack on gens? Cause you can ask for that but I wouldn’t recommend it, balance changes that push survivors towards splitting up and repairing gens solo would make killer games harder, not easier.