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I feel the FNAF thing is getting out of hand

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  • lordfart
    lordfart Member Posts: 538

    Haha it's okay intent isn't easy to figure out online, no hard feelings XD

  • Mr_Madness
    Mr_Madness Member Posts: 1,003
    edited August 2021

    Too true with the online part XD.

    No voice to hear that can help decide if they are being nice or unfriendly if its just text so gotta go with a guess.

    You just be sitting at your chair for hours figuring out if the person texing you to "Take a Hike" was being thoughtful of your health and wants you to exercise or telling you to get lost.

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    Aah thanks

    I thought it was incorrect but i didn't have time to double check it

  • Clowning
    Clowning Member Posts: 886

    You think?

  • Pukenplag
    Pukenplag Member Posts: 1,454

    Just because the lore behind FNaF is dark, it doesn't mean the audience has to be mature.

  • It's a more requested killer than pinhead

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Indeed, just look at Pokémon. Some of those Pokédex entries are dark as hell.

  • Deadlock
    Deadlock Member Posts: 215
    edited August 2021

    I didn't know seeing people enjoy something is offensive to you. If you don't like seeing these threads or think they are spam, report them, and move on. It doesn't do anyone good to be angry at something that isn't going to stop. The only way the fnaf hype will die is if it's implemented into the game. Yes I support fnaf in dbd. Yes I most recently made a fnaf post that everyone got mad at because "fnaf bad, and liking fnaf bad" even tho in no way was I trying to spam, I was just trying to have an honest conversation. A lot of fnaf fans do it put of spite because people who don't want fnaf are such jerks. But contact a mod, report the posts, or (my personal favorite) ignore the posts. Leaving hate comments or telling them to stop won't work. This is the forums meant for talking about dbd, you really can't just say "stop posting about fnaf" because that isn't going to work. I see posts all the time about Candyman and I don't really want Candyman in the game. However I'm not gonna bash them unless it's clearly spam. Fnaf is just a hot topic and people want it. Just let people enjoy things, or just quietly report them. Everyone is just so angry at each other and I don't get it. Like, let's just chill and enjoy a game where we virtually kill people.

  • SonicOffline
    SonicOffline Member Posts: 918

    I've already covered this, but here we go.


    My ego is not related to being annoyed at the sheer volume of FNAF content overtaking a DBD forum. Thanks for being the poster child of my grievances though with the community, and rehashing an already displayed example of my complaints. "I LIKE THIS SO YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT" is not a valid argument.


    The same argument btw could be said for you. The world does not revolve around you, and this is a forum for DBD, so why do we have to have 20 threads a day on FNAF? Is it really not ok in your eyes that we chill it out? Because that's a fine example of entitlement, which is just another complaint I have about the FNAF community. You're far from the first to tell me to suck it up without any real substance to your opinion.

  • Apollos
    Apollos Member Posts: 1,052

    There's so many fnaf threads.



    hold up lemme make one real quick.

  • onemind
    onemind Member Posts: 3,089

    Probably tomorrow on the ptb assuming the dates are correct without delay

    Unless we get lucky and get and extended teaser with useful info

  • onemind
    onemind Member Posts: 3,089

    That's the thing about the fnaf community we almost never agree on something but almost allway agree when something official with the trademark is shown.

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    That's the whole point, you don't have to deal with it. You can just ignore it. You just choose not too.

    It is in no way entitlement. The difference between the fnaf community and you is that you are deciding for them what they should discus while they are just talking among themself. They are not forcing you to read any of it.

    Trying to turn the world revolving comment around while they just want to discus what they like and you as an outsider step in and tell them they can't is beyond ironic.

    And fnaf is a horror game. DbD takes licences of horror games so it's 100% a valid point of discussion.

    Or are we going to put a fixed number of threads on all suggestions for this game? Better watch out with candyman suggestions. We are nearing the tolerance level of some people.

    I don't personally care for fnaf but people who try to silence other people just cause they don't like what they say need a serious reality check.

    Thanks for giving the perfect example of what i said about ego's. Your problem with the fnaf community is exactly that. Your problem that you made for yourself.

  • SonicOffline
    SonicOffline Member Posts: 918
    edited August 2021

    If you don't like my FNAF thread just ignore it c:


    The irony is so strong I taste metal. I mention the FNAF community is whiney, and I get whined at about it. Lmaooooo

  • Marigoria
    Marigoria Member Posts: 6,090

    I see as many threads complaining about FNAF as I see positive FNAF threads

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    I tried this

    Searched Fnaf, restricted it to one week

    It said 125 pages of discusion

    Going through the pages it ends at page 10 and all the rest are "no results found"

    So is the site bugged for me or are you people overreacting?

  • Pukenplag
    Pukenplag Member Posts: 1,454

    If all the fans were 20 yo because the series is 7 years old, then it means FNaF is not popular at all. But it is, and young people still join the game.

    Just because the original fans have grown up, it doesn't mean new ones are also grown ups.

    Oh and as a side note, I have zero issues with kids, as long as they are nice.

  • onemind
    onemind Member Posts: 3,089

    But that would be lying its probably not this chapter but definitely not never

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675
    edited August 2021

    I'm surprised you actually did it, most people just gloss over verifying sources. You get an upvote on that alone.

    Truth be told, I didn't scroll through the pages because I just assumed it was working properly. However, it does seem like it's a bug, since it happens with "Candyman" as well, on page 9. I'm guessing it's related to deleted comments.

  • onemind
    onemind Member Posts: 3,089
    edited August 2021

    People seriously underrate how many people there are in the fnaf fan base I forgot how many people there are easily a 7mil that's close to hell raiser with 8m

    The most seen fnaf vid I've seen had about 98m

  • SonicOffline
    SonicOffline Member Posts: 918

    Deleted comments and raw information overload. I wouldn't be surprised to see the software DBD uses for its forum intentionally purges threads of a certain age so the rest functions smooth for the general public. Public access databases do need load balancing, and a forum is exactly that. It's still showing the amount of content that was available though, which means the point isn't moot. Those threads did exist at one point.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    It doesn't purge the threads, no. That's why we have over 4000 pages of threads in General Discussions.

  • SonicOffline
    SonicOffline Member Posts: 918
    edited August 2021

    Manually loading one page at a time is not the same as running a query and pooping the results. One is just listing the content, the other is sorting it. One takes processing power and disk access that needs to be managed.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Fair enough, but shouldn't it show the results anyway if a person goes to that page in the results?

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    And how many of those will actually buy the game? Hell, how many of those can buy the game? How many have moved on from the franchise, or even horror?

    Raw numbers of potential customers aren't enough to justify pandering, from an economic perspective.

  • SonicOffline
    SonicOffline Member Posts: 918

    Eventually yeah, but if people keep posting more content it keeps updating that list, so while in theory it should, in practice it might not.

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    Noed also stops at page 9

    My first idea was that it showed you all pages but only loaded the one within your search date but if you up it to a year fnaf pages increase to 313 so that isn't either

    So yeah does seem like a bug

  • DwarvenTavern
    DwarvenTavern Member Posts: 2,495

    You have no idea if they are interested in the IP or not. A Dev saying "this would be cool" is not the same as a company deciding if this would be a worthy investment or not

  • AsherFrost
    AsherFrost Member Posts: 2,340
    edited August 2021

    Came back to see we're still perpetuating our own problems, lol. Still multiple threads being made complaining about multiple threads being made about something. Seriously for every "pro" FNAF thread there are 4 "anti". But sure, let's blame the like 6 people on here who seem to be fans of the franchise for that, lol.

    You definitely can't compare it to Candyman, because as far as I know there aren't people just sick to their stomachs at the thought of the character ever being in.

    The fanbase for FNAF is about as grown as the one for Stranger Things, and that was pretty successful for DbD until Netflix decided to make their own game studio, with blackjack, and hookers. I'm not a fan of FNAF, but the "it's a kid's game" argument is as disingenuous now as it was before we got Kpop Kenny. It's not like if they put the bunny in the game it'll make it a FNAF game. He'll still be chasing survivors, getting pallet stunned and hooking. They'll still be totems and gens, just maybe we'll get another suburban map with a derelict pizza place to hide in, which could be fun.

    If our knife throwing popstar and the Nemesis taught anything, it's that dbd is unchangeable. We could have the Kool Aid man as a killer, it's still going to play the same.

  • onemind
    onemind Member Posts: 3,089
    edited August 2021

    Correct I have no idea if they are interested but it would be denial to say it can't happen until they deconfirm it

    Something the fnaf community is good at according to everyone here

  • Deadlock
    Deadlock Member Posts: 215
  • DwarvenTavern
    DwarvenTavern Member Posts: 2,495

    Yes and that's what I was saying. Thank you for confirming what I was saying.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    And I hope that search showed you why people are so angry/annoyed by FNAF threads and comments, and that the situation is in no way comparable to any other topic.

  • onemind
    onemind Member Posts: 3,089

    No problem

    I dont like hippocrates but they could be doing it by accident

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    Kinda?

    I still don't really get why people can't just ignore it. Especially since the post will die out again after the ptb.

    They always flare up when teasers drop and die out soon after

    Seems like a lot of wasted effort to get rilled up over something they can't change and is mostly going to fix itself in time

  • DwarvenTavern
    DwarvenTavern Member Posts: 2,495

    I was being more annoyed sarcastic. Like, I was a little annoyed for you to semi correct me with something I was trying to say already.

    I know it wasn't your intention, but that irked me a bit

  • SonicOffline
    SonicOffline Member Posts: 918
    edited August 2021

    My specific problem with "just ignore it" is also "just ignoring" the fact that only X amount of threads can be on a page in the forum, and an increasing amount of FNAF threads is taking away from that. Saying "just ignore it" is telling us to just ignore a growing problem that's "physically" limiting the space of the content we DO want to see. It just really sucks that whenever anyone has anything to say that's not pro-FNAF the FNAF community comes out in force like bats to screech all over the place, and calling /that/ out makes them scream louder. Case in point, I literally only said in the OP that it's getting excessive and there's other avenues, but the thread is full of people calling me hateful and other things because I can't/won't "just ignore it."

  • miketheratguy
    miketheratguy Member Posts: 2,719

    I've been watching the FNAF topics exponentially increase over the last month. I honestly feel sorry for you guys.

    Here's the thing: Objectively speaking, weighing both the pros and the cons and trying to give the FNAF games (not the fandom, the games themselves) a fair shake, they ARE jumpscare simulators, yes, and some would (correctly) argue that they're also resource management sims. Don't let your power meter run out, make sure to check the vents and hallways, etc etc etc. I get it, it's not everyone's cup of tea.

    I had absolutely the lowest, bargain basement expectations of FNAF when I played the first game about four or five years ago. But I won't lie, I enjoyed the experience. The game isn't satisfying because of the jumpscares, the game is satisfying in the tension that comes with trying to AVOID the jumpscares, which is paired with a very strong sense of helplessness, very rich and well-crafted audio, and - ultimately - a slowly unspooling story that gets darker and more macabre as it progresses. I respect the games for what they are, even if I myself also don't want much if anything to do with the majority of people who make up the game's more vocal fandom.

    The games - for what they set out to be - are actually effective. They're not bad. Some are even fun. But as I've quietly watched the forum this last month it's become readily apparent that people have mercilessly spammed the subject to death. There's no reason for that, and it's also counterproductive which seems evident to all but those who keep up the spamming.

    If any FNAF fans and hopefuls bother to read this post, please try to take something from it: I'm with you guys in feeling that FNAF and Springtrap have some pretty cool aesthetics. I can understand why you want to see them in a game like this. But by being so aggressive about your wishes, you're just leaving a very poor impression of your fandom. The DBD community doesn't want to be invaded. It's not about hatred for the franchise, it's about being pestered mercilessly about the same topic over and over again. Be patient, let the topic breathe, give people a break. No one wants to hear the same things said to them every single day. Maybe in time FNAF will become a part of DBD. I don't have a preference about this one way or another. I'm just hoping that maybe, as someone who understands the love of the games a little bit more than maybe the average DBD player, you guys can understand when I tell you that trying to win approval for the concept by making thread after thread about the topic is not the right way to go about it.

  • SonicOffline
    SonicOffline Member Posts: 918

    It'd be neat if they'd listen to this, but so far it's just "YOU DISAGREE?11?!/!?!! NANI!?1!"

  • miketheratguy
    miketheratguy Member Posts: 2,719
    edited August 2021

    Yeah I mean it's difficult. I can see both sides. I do think that FNAF (the games themselves) are too readily dismissed as just kids' stuff. That's a fair interpretation given the vast majority of the series' audience (and all the eeeeeeendless content that they splattered all over the internet). I understand why people would think that the series is just jumpscares and its audience just children. I totally get it.

    At the same time the game (at least the first one, which is the only one I can vouch for) really is well-designed, creating efficient tension in a very simple, straightfoward manner. My personal belief is that Springtrap IS a very interesting character, as it's basically a stinking, decaying costume that acts as the permanent vessel of the desiccated corpse of a serial child murderer who got impaled in it when he was desperately fleeing the spirits of the kids that he killed. To me that's a pretty creepy, creative concept. A rotting children's entertainment suit made animate by the equally rotten corpse of the child killer physically crammed inside is something I wouldn't want to encounter.

    But the things that the FNAF fans don't seem to understand is that not only do many people not know the details of the series, many people don't care. Without proper exposure to the backstory via FNAF gameplay and the series' clues and community theories slow reveals Springtrap is, for all intents and purposes, just a dirty rabbit suit. On top of that, the FNAF fandom is, for better and worse, already massive and populated by many young adults. When a lot of people (even myself, who would defend the series on its technical merits) think of FNAF, they think of crummy fanart drawn by middle-schoolers. The vibe just doesn't feel right for this game. I said basically the same thing when someone suggested that this game should have anime killers. Anime is already its own flavor, its own community, it's own self-sustaining machine. It's an entire culture unto itself, and by bleeding it into DBD it would create a clash of styles and fandoms (my opinion, anyway). Two flavors that work fine on their own but create a sort of dissonance when paired together. FNAF would be the same. It would be like putting Darth Vader in this game: I love Star Wars but Star Wars is not Dead By Daylight. Star Wars is Star Wars.

    And of course, lastly, there's the simple fact that people have been spamming the topic to death. This one shouldn't be rocket science. Whether people want FNAF in the game or not is fine, but it's been explained to people time and time again that by constantly bringing it up, it's just annoying people and making them that much more likely to want to become equally aggressive in pushing back.

    I don't know. I like FNAF fine and I don't think that it would be a good fit for the game. Even if it were, being so relentless about it isn't the right way to make the idea palatable to non-fans.