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Why insult someone for raging on this game?
If someone's raging on the game in post-game, as long as they aren't being offensive or throwing out slurs, just let them vent. They're clearly stressed out from the match or previous ones, and letting off the steam can help them mentally. Don't demoralize them further by being an ass and calling them a crybaby. You don't know what they deal with, so you don't know how bad the match affected them. They play the game to let off steam, then it just gets them stressed further by the actions of the other players.
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This game can be frustrating at times and it burns me out.
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I will never understand why PC players care so much about post-game chat.
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I have it up solely to thank team mates and give GG's.
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Or you can just be someone that doesn't need to lash out at others, because a game didn't go your way? And yes, I'm aware that venting doesn't always have to be aimed at another person, but that doesn't change anything about the fact, that random strangers probably shouldn't deal with your anger. I really don't understand how this is a difficult concept.
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Have u ever played a multiplayer game in your life?
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Yes, I have. And the "worst" of them, when it comes to toxicity as well. And I absolutely do get tilted, because I am an absolute tryhard at heart, don't get me wrong. But that doesn't change the fact that yelling at strangers on the internet, because a video game treated you poorly, is a behaviour that should not be encouraged in any way.
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Because seeing somebody rage in chat is not only kinda childish, its massively uncomfortable. nobody likes seeing a stranger flip out in chat over literal pixels.
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Is it ever really a good idea to be angry at people in a video game though?
Like, yes, it's understandable that it happens. But I feel like it's something you should be avoiding instead of excusing.
If I actually got mad enough to lash out at people because I didn't win the game, i'd actually like to be clowned on so I can feel properly ashamed of it and not want to do it again. Because it's bad to do.
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Is it ever really a good idea to be angry at people in a video game though?
Yes, there are perfectly good reasons. Has a win ever been stolen from you by a cheap tactic for example? Have you ever lost an extremely close game? Have you ever lost a match with a high reward (money / ingame currency) ? Can you stop a human from feeling these emotions? What you need to do is either leave or understand their frustration. Understanding each other is part of being human.
Should this be encouraged? Absolutely not, but unless you have a way to change human nature then there's no way to stop this.
We'll see that in about 100 years when we're totally going to alienate ourselves from human emotions. I brought my tin foil hat for this one. And no, I won't start a discussion about this last topic ^.
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No, no, not good reason. Good idea. Plenty of reasons to get mad at people in a video game, but is it ever a good idea to?
No, it's not. Even if they deserve it. In fact, especially if they deserve it. Feeding into your anger and lashing out accomplishes nothing, for nothing. You may not ask for your anger, but it's still yours. And if you decide to spray it on everyone within range, that's your bad, period, end of discussion.
You can't and shouldn't expect everyone to empathize and support you when you rage-- you have to have the self-responsibility to get a handle on it yourself.
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Or why they even have one. If you take this away and all options to contact other players then everyone will be happy. Unless a "well played" is something you need to feel good about yourself, but in that case a therapist might also be a better choice 😀 Or any type of chat on the internet if this feels important to talk to others. Makes no sense to me in a video game.
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Yeah, my thicc ass saw reason instead of idea. Perks of waking up very early.
Feeding into your anger and lashing out accomplishes nothing, for nothing. You may not ask for your anger, but it's still yours. And if you decide to spray it on everyone within range, that's your bad, period, end of discussion.
There are barely repercussions for raging online, sometimes none. In real life, there are plenty.
I'll just leave it at this.
To each their own. From my POV, I'll understand their behavior and be done with it. I may speak to them and come to something, or not. Everyone is different. It's too big of a problem to even begin discussing how to solve it. And let's not forget even if u do that, you hold your anger inside, then you shouldn't expect for the other to do the same.
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I don't think insulting someone for raging is the best way to handle it, but neither do I think you should rage because you lost a game or because of something you're dealing with IRL. That's not healthy and just leads to more problems.
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eh I don't really care if people rage at games just don't send hate mail to people lol
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They can ######### in post game but if they start blaming people they are likely the problem. Projection leads to other issues and a lot of players who complain post game project.
Also anyone who goes to another persons profile or attacks another player making it personal can get hardware banned for all I care. They're trash and ruin this community. You may think my statement is the same criteria but it's basically the paradox of tolerance. To have a good community you cannot tolerate bullshit. So in a sense being intolerant of the intolerant.
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No no no showing and expressing emotions that are concidert negative is wrong cause they need to be kept in a bottle and never be released untill they obviously fade on their own.
Anyone that does show these kind of emotions need to be punished and rediculed as they make other people uncomfortable.
These emotions are not the prefered way of life and therefor need to be ignored and discarted
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It's normally correct to ignore any post-match salt. If there's anything remotely offensive that can be reportable, the best thing is still not to engage, but instead just report and move on.
However, it's still not right for someone to get aggressive towards another player regardless. Understandably, the person lashing out may be having some issues irl, but so too may the person they are lashing out towards.
It's a matter of congruence and empathy from both sides. But ultimately people need to take a step back and not be so impulsive, and not only understand that the person getting angry could be having some problems, but also the person they are raging at.
It's a game. Learn from more honourable people or how to deal with frustrations and failure in more productive ways.
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If that's your opinion, it's certainly a strange and unhealthy one. Most people (like everyone in this thread) agreed that people need to deal with their negative emotions, but in a healthy way, instead of raging at strangers because you lost at a video game. I know I stop playing when I get tilted and deal with it some other way.
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If they throw a tantrum in a chat where others can read it, they should expect that others may respond. If they want to vent without anyone judging them or saying anything about it, they should do it in private.
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I do to, but that doesn't mean you need to stoke the fires of someone who is frustrated.
Raging like that is still way healthier then keeping it bottled in and dealing with it in a healthy way is such a vague concept that very few people know for themself how to do it.
And while it certainly isn't 100% correct to rage at strangers it also isn't hard to just step away from a stranger raging at you over a video game and let them deal with their frustrations on their own way.
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If they want to rage at me, I will either make fun of them or level with them. It kind of depends on how hard they come at me.
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I'm on console but if I had endgame chat I would totally fan the flames. Tbh my life kinda sucks so if someone is lashing out at me over a GAME (happened all the time in 2010 era COD lobbies) I relish that miniscule power the rager has given me and run with it. This is the internet after all
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"OMG, it's just a game, why are you so angry?" they ask after treating players who don't sweat for a rank like subhuman trash and acting superior because "muh wins, I'm so bettah than you, lol ez pez"
Applies to all multiplayer games everywhere.
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You don't get hate mail messages? I often get them during the game. I once stopped playing to have a back and forth with a flashlight user who was mad that I tunneled and face camped him out of the game. My final words were, " well I let the others go, so you technically did well as a survivor." It is more savage in context where he wouldn't shut up about skill and rank. It was kind of weird, so I needed to start speaking his language.
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I never have! I think the closest was once I played like a jerk as twins and did a mass slug and someone sent me a messahe with just a paragraph of exclamation marks lol, usually if I do get a msg it's just GG's and stuff
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Bottling up feelings isn’t healthy, but I don’t think there’s any evidence to suggest that venting is actually good for people either. If anything, it makes things worse. You reinforce your own negative mindset, you feel bad for going off at people, and the more you do it the more it becomes an ingrained behaviour.
Personally I don’t care too much if people are salty in end game chat, but I don’t think we should pretend that it’s a healthy way to deal with negative feelings.
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A lot of the times venting is someone looking for validation and get frustrated when they don't get it. Big shocker when you vent to someone who doesn't know you or care when you do it.
If your venting creates healthy discussion sure but most of the time in post game chat it's directed at a player who honestly shouldn't need to care. Cool if they show a little empathy but it's not their job to. It's just a game understand not every game is going to go your way. If you can't handle this game play another - There are plenty of other enjoyable experiences out there.
I don't say that to be cruel either - I've literally taken 6-8 month long breaks from this game because of the state the game was in. AKA Spirit release or Legion release.
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Now I'm not exactly the most rational person when dealing with my anger, but seeing the way that someone else will flip over a video game can be ######### hilarious. One time I ran a streamer for 4 gens, he ignored people on gens just to go for me. After he finally left me and went for my friend, he kept missing attacks and went absolute apeshit.
But I completely agree that you should not insult or provoke the person who is clearly upset. Let them communicate their frustrations and move on, you don't gain anything by making the person feel worse than they already do.
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Fair point OP.
BUT, we have to be honest. People rage when they lose. Because they expect to win. EVERY TIME.
When they don't, they have an entitlement explosion. Happens to the best of us. When I have bad games, now, I say "man, you/y'all got me" out loud. Might even chuckle if they used finesse/good tactics. Helps in life, not just gaming. Gotta just hold the "L" sometimes. Just roll with it.
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I think a lot of people are playing this game to troll people, so as soon as you let go any sign that you are tilted, they're going to double down. If they say "gg ez" just say "yeah well played" and it stops them in their tracks.
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Yeah people go through stuff but how is it acceptable for them to call me so many homophobic slurs?
I have it on my bio that I'm a lesbian so they go out of their way to look at my profile then say horrendous things like that.
Granted, hasn't happened in a while but no I'm sorry man. I do not agree with lashing out at someone in this game as it leads to more than just the
'I'm frustrated the game didn't do my way' etc...
You learn how to control yourself.
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Raging like that is still way healthier then keeping it bottled in
It's really not, because it's a self-reinforcing behavior. It'll just make you rage harder instead of helping you deal with your anger.
and dealing with it in a healthy way is such a vague concept that very few people know for themself how to do it.
It's not vague, there's about a century of research into the subject. Things like "not taking your anger out on other people" and "not doing things that make you angry on purpose" are extremely basic and I'm sure everyone's heard of them. Hell, they're just plain common sense, as far as I'm concerned.
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I mean it clearly not common sense if so many people aren't doing it right.
I don't think i've ever met a person that hasn't vented once in while
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Who did you ask?
Cause you seemingly didn't ask me. 😋
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Imagine playing DBD to let off stress. 😂
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Nah lol, like 100 percent of the time they complain something isn't fair, u were hacking, etc
they deserve to be called out
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If you don't understand then stop commenting.
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In my experience, someone complaining in post game chat without being rude to someone who was in the match is extraordinarily rare. A lot of the time, people's anger is targeted at a specific player, typically the Killer or a particular Survivor. Although, people raging at their teammates isn't super uncommon either, especially if the teammate made a mistake or two. If I'm directly insulted then I'll typically just ask them to calm down or leave. Only exception is if that person is being beyond unpleasant.
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My favorite is where players think ANYTHING, I mean anything… means you are “salty”.
Ive actually complemented people on their builds, but because of the nature of this game, their immediate response is “salty much?” Like, no I wasn’t pointing out your perks in a negative way. 🙄
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Because often times when people rage, they are raging at you. While this game can be frustrating as all heck, if you take a verbal swing at someone, chances are that person will swing back.
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I'll laugh if a killer DC's from chasing me. But I do feel bad for them, so I'm not gonna press the issue like some do.
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It's strange that responding to someone raging is questioned more than the raging itself. I generally won't antagonise someone who's going off in chat but I don't think it's something that should be normalised.
Losing with dignity is something that should be taught, and can be learned, at a very young age.
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I do agree with this statement but its kinda their fault if they type that in the chat. Some people probably cant control their anger but still they should just try to calm down and move on
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What I don't understand about some people in this game and people in video game communities in general is how hard they try (and fail) to apply stoicism. They think any interactions online should not upset you and "it's just a video game", but the nature of video games, particularly PvP ones, are by nature prone to being upsetting. You're in a competitive environment, failure sucks. Being taunted and disrespected sucks (bm'd), being on the receiving end of being insulted sucks. It doesn't matter if it's online or not; you're not talking to bots, you're still talking to people.
The people who go so hard in the "it's just a video game" / think that interactions online (good or bad, but especially bad ones) should not have any sort of emotional impact on you to any degree are trying extremely too hard to put on a strong face to look more mature and stoic. The psychology of social interactions suddenly doesn't go away because you're online. It still applies.
Of course, tame your emotions and don't get out of control, but there's no different standard really than in real life. Keep your emotions in check but please people stop acting like people need to be emotionless online. That's not only not a solution and unrealistic but you're doing more harm than good.
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At this point, it is common knowledge some do it to bait reactions. So, if you realistically want to stop being a victim of their bad manners, it truly is best to just ignore whatever nonsense they throw at you. That doesn't mean you cannot be offended. But projecting that is utterly pointless.
If this stuff gets under your skin, you are going to have a bad time, because a lot of them do it. So many. Dare I say I see it more here than in Overwatch which is closer to having that LoL toxicity than this game.
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All I’m saying is that Throw-Pillows were made for a very specific reason, get one
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We are all here to PLAY a game and have FUN. Sending rage messages and screaming at others is no way to behave. If their tantrum goes against the rules I will also report. There is no excusing that kind of poor behavior. Why you are making a post defending it is odd.
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I have my own precautions. I disable end game chat. Any BM'ing like clicking and teabagging is whatever and I move onto the next game. My post wasn't about how I feel, but how people feel in general when they're in contact with generally obscene actions towards them.
The point was that the listed actions I said would be obscene to do in real life and that many people act like when those things happen online that absolutely zero emotions should be evoked, but that's not how the psychology of social interactions work. It suddenly doesn't seize to exist just because it's happening in an online environment. It happens when you're communicating with people and guess what, you're not talking to bots online; you're talking to people.
Yes it's very obviously done to get reactions but so are real life equivalents, and the reason doesn't tend to matter because those same people who dismiss (negative) emotional reactions online aren't as quick to do it when a real-life equivalent happens, regardless of if it's obviously done for bait.
People overrate the toxicity of this game when a vast majority of it can be censored. On console end game chat is auto censored and you can tweak message settings so you don't get personal DM's about it. Pc can censor it as well. All that's left really is clicking and teabagging. In many other games voice chat is mandatory to play competently and you are always prone to toxicity as a result.
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Yep. Had a killer tell me to go ######### myself after I complimented their play.
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Because a large portion of this community is self centered and need to feel superior in some way shape or form. They need a way to tell the other side why they're "better"
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