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Spirit Red stain should stay remain even during passive phases

Spirits stain disappearing with her passive phase makes her too strong on console. With the game already being so bad with frames having her stain disappear all the time while in chase makes her unfair to say the least. But that's just my opinion.

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  • I_am_Negan
    I_am_Negan Member Posts: 3,756

    No it's fine the way it is.
    that's just my opinion

  • AntiJelly
    AntiJelly Member Posts: 1,155

    @harley_gibson said:
    Spirits stain disappearing with her passive phase makes her too strong on console. With the game already being so bad with frames having her stain disappear all the time while in chase makes her unfair to say the least. But that's just my opinion.

    I never have problems facing spirit. I play on Xbox, which out of all of the platforms, performs the worst. You just need to move away from unsafe loops. Stop standing still at pallets.

  • harley_gibson
    harley_gibson Member Posts: 49

    It's not her "mind games that mess me up lol it's the looping in general. But I have to say since this last updates the frames have already improved and if they still have more optimization and performance updates to come I don't think it will be as big an issue later.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    This would make her power worthless though.
  • MojoTheFabulous
    MojoTheFabulous Member Posts: 2,015

    Then what'd be the point of the passive phasing?

  • Malakir
    Malakir Member Posts: 799
    Another dumb thread from you?

    Can you just get better before asking AGAIN silly nerfs?
  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340
    I think this would defeat the purpose of her phase walk, pretty much would make her power useless and not fun to play.
  • BlackendSea
    BlackendSea Member Posts: 49
    But but she has her speed from phasewalking. Surely the red stain wouldn’t be removing the point of her power completely. You can’t really outrun her if she can hear you. Unless like, you run iron will and urban evasion then you have a chance xD
  • Malakir
    Malakir Member Posts: 799
    But but she has her speed from phasewalking. Surely the red stain wouldn’t be removing the point of her power completely. You can’t really outrun her if she can hear you. Unless like, you run iron will and urban evasion then you have a chance xD
    So you wanna just add more drawbacks to her power even if she can't actually see them? Okay.. the new wave users are really something else..
  • harley_gibson
    harley_gibson Member Posts: 49

    Let me make sure I made this point clear. I think the red stain should be visible during Passive Phase, NOT while she is using her phase walk ability. it's just way too hard to tell sometimes which direction or how close she is to you. And the part about it that makes it unfair is that the passive phase is complete RNG. It takes skill out of the equation at times.

    If the spirit happens to get a longer passive phase at a critical point in a loop chase while she's turning around, or right before she might be preparing a lunge swing that you could use dead hard to avoid then you can't see anything at all to have an opportunity to to counterplay essentially making the killer hit on you complete luck rather than any actual skill required.

  • Demonsouls1993
    Demonsouls1993 Member Posts: 261

    Spirits stain disappearing with her passive phase makes her too strong on console. With the game already being so bad with frames having her stain disappear all the time while in chase makes her unfair to say the least. But that's just my opinion.

    Fine but then she gets to see survivors when using her power 
  • SnakeSound222
    SnakeSound222 Member Posts: 4,467
    edited December 2018

    If this happens, then she needs the ability to see Survivors during her phase walk. However, this change is probably not happening, so you just need to get good at mindgames. Stop standing still at pallets and move away from any unsafe loop.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    Some surviors just want every killer to be able to be looped for 5 gens. God forbid we get killers where survivors dont feel safe on the other side of a pallet.
  • SnakeSound222
    SnakeSound222 Member Posts: 4,467

    @The_Crusader said:
    Some surviors just want every killer to be able to be looped for 5 gens. God forbid we get killers where survivors dont feel safe on the other side of a pallet.

    They also don't want any challenges while looping the Killer. They just want to be able to run around and drop pallets/vault windows.

  • Freudentrauma
    Freudentrauma Member Posts: 1,053

    @The_Crusader said:
    Some surviors just want every killer to be able to be looped for 5 gens. God forbid we get killers where survivors dont feel safe on the other side of a pallet.

    To be fair people are confused. OP is only talking about the passive phasing aspect of spirit. The part of her ability, which is RNG and like the name said passive. I'm not a big fan of it, because as a Killer to utilize it you really have to gues or hope, when you turn in loop, that your passive phasing is triggering. There isn't any indication that it's happening right now. Mindgames with vaults e.g. are much more controlled or how to utilize the actual phase walk or fake it.
    Passive phasing is just awkward right now. It looks cool, but it's totally random. It's the only thing I would love to see some rework of sorts, so it feels more controlled for the Killer.

  • Silas
    Silas Member Posts: 307

    The red stain should just be removed from the game completely. :wink:

  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    @Freudentrauma said:

    @The_Crusader said:
    Some surviors just want every killer to be able to be looped for 5 gens. God forbid we get killers where survivors dont feel safe on the other side of a pallet.

    To be fair people are confused. OP is only talking about the passive phasing aspect of spirit. The part of her ability, which is RNG and like the name said passive. I'm not a big fan of it, because as a Killer to utilize it you really have to gues or hope, when you turn in loop, that your passive phasing is triggering. There isn't any indication that it's happening right now. Mindgames with vaults e.g. are much more controlled or how to utilize the actual phase walk or fake it.
    Passive phasing is just awkward right now. It looks cool, but it's totally random. It's the only thing I would love to see some rework of sorts, so it feels more controlled for the Killer.

    Actually I think almost everyone understood what the OP meant and have responded accordingly.

  • BigBubs
    BigBubs Member Posts: 1,131
    edited December 2018

    @harley_gibson said:
    Spirits stain disappearing with her passive phase makes her too strong on console. With the game already being so bad with frames having her stain disappear all the time while in chase makes her unfair to say the least. But that's just my opinion.

    So , explain it to me what will be the point of the passive phasing then?
    What next you gonna cry about? Asking for a permanent stain on freddy and wraith?
    Jesus christ...

    @Silas said:
    The red stain should just be removed from the game completely. :wink:

    I actually would love for that to happen to make crybabies like OP be happy with their framerate :chuffed:

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @MegaWaffle said:

    Actually I think almost everyone understood what the OP meant and have responded accordingly.

    Her passive phasing is only op when you use her high end addons and if you keep the red stain during that she'd have to get buffed someplace else to make up the difference.What you really should be focusing on instead of asking for a needless nerf is something else.

    It's what the Navy always drilled into your head which was "ATTENTION TO DETAIL", if you pay attention to grass moving etc like with Wraith.

  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    @powerbats said:

    @MegaWaffle said:

    Actually I think almost everyone understood what the OP meant and have responded accordingly.

    Her passive phasing is only op when you use her high end addons and if you keep the red stain during that she'd have to get buffed someplace else to make up the difference.What you really should be focusing on instead of asking for a needless nerf is something else.

    It's what the Navy always drilled into your head which was "ATTENTION TO DETAIL", if you pay attention to grass moving etc like with Wraith.

    Really don't understand why I got "tagged" in this?

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @MegaWaffle said:

    @powerbats said:

    @MegaWaffle said:

    Actually I think almost everyone understood what the OP meant and have responded accordingly.

    Her passive phasing is only op when you use her high end addons and if you keep the red stain during that she'd have to get buffed someplace else to make up the difference.What you really should be focusing on instead of asking for a needless nerf is something else.

    It's what the Navy always drilled into your head which was "ATTENTION TO DETAIL", if you pay attention to grass moving etc like with Wraith.

    Really don't understand why I got "tagged" in this?

    Sorry wrong tagged person lol.