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The lack of content this upcoming chapter
As we're nearing the release of Pinhead, I've found myself feeling quite disappointed at the sheer lack of substance on display with the next "chapter".
To start, I don't mean to sound ungrateful - Pinhead has clearly had a lot of passion and effort put into him and I'm very glad to see it. I'm genuinely looking forward to learning and playing him.
The lack of communication as to why the next "chapter" is essentially a paragraph really irks me though. The devs clearly know of it too because in the PTB survey they asked if not having any survivor content is a problem. If you ask me, it is. If they're so insistent on sticking to their content schedule as BHVR has always insisted they are, why are they now deciding to stagger the content like this? Why are we supposedly seeing a chapter's worth of content divided up?
No new map, no new survivor (until the next mid-chapter if rumours are to be believed) and no clear cut communication as to why.
To make matters worse, If the next chapter had a lot of other balance changes bundled into it, I would be more than satisfied with it but no, not even that. Very minor tweaks to Nemesis aside. We're not even getting another realm beyond update which is the main reason we had three chapters that came with no map to begin with.
If any of this comes across as entitled or ungrateful, I don't mean it that way - I just wanted to rant about something that's been bothering me and see if anyone else feels the same.
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Game is stale. Devs are stale. Not sure what you expect. Stop spending money on Nea skins and BHVR will have to work.
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I mean we literally just got a chapter with not 1 but 2 survivors, so if they need an extra month and a half to bang out another survivor I dont really mind, especially considering the quality of the animations on pinhead, some of the best animations by far
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I don't buy cosmetics. The last money I spent on this game was buying the RE chapter. I didn't buy any of the chapters before that with money.
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As if. Skins literally bankroll this game because its the only form of extra content we ever get, players will never stop buying them so bhvr never has to struggle to make good content to make up for lost profits.
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Hey if that's their reasoning, I'd undestand it if they just told us
Also when Stranger Things came out, we got 2 survivors then and that didn't stop the next chapter from having a map or a survivor. In fact after Demo, we got one of the best chapters we've ever gotten (Yui & Oni)
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Me too i really wish we got kirsty cotton as well at least. Hopefully mid chapter is good... map rework or something like that would be nice.
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also lets not forget that all of this might very well just be a licensing issue which BHVR has had no controll over.
if they only got the license for Pinhead, then they will only be able to add Pinhead.
plus im pretty sure we already knew there wouldnt be a map in advance, as they did say they wanted to focus on the Realm Beyond changes for older maps (we still have some realms that havent been updated yet + they were talking about adding terrain heights to all of the other maps so they are no longer just a completely flat area with some loops on top), therefore we would only be getting a new map every second chapter - and since Nemmy brought us his ugh "map", we knew we wouldnt be getting one for this chapter.
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I've been playing overwatch and that game is honestly more stale and entertaining right now
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Honestly, I would be upset, but the less content this time means less bugs and more time spent on optimization.
at least I hope so
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I might have cared just a little bit... If Pinhead wasn't basically the coolest killer they have added yet. If he was lame, then yeah, I could see myself wondering about a map. Especially as they are removing one instead of reworking it.
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Licence holders: you can have pinhead but not kirsty
Bhvr: that's fair
DbD community that litterally had an extra survivor last chapter: reeeeee
I know this wasen't meant to sound ungratefull. But it kinda is.
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in my opinion devs should just told comminity that lack of survivors is a licence issue( and no i dont mean any detal or something like that)
they should always try to get content for boths sides, i know one think killer q tieams will be match longer for a while sicne survivors has nothing to test out this "chapter"
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The Hellraiser license is absolutely abundant with potential maps but if, hypothetically, the developers are keeping the content a little simple so that they can perhaps work on more important issues, I'd be all for it.
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Survivor will not have had any changes or new content since Resident Evil chapter. No changes in the Trickster midchapter buff and now no new survivor, perks or perk buffs in the Hellraiser chapter. If rumors are true we'll get a new survivor the upcoming midchapter, but that's still about 5 months (from RE chapter to next midchapter) with no changes or new content for survivors. Leaving the state of survivor to be pretty stale atm
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Yui and Oni chapter came with a new map, but not a new realm. It actual came up with only the Sactum. The rest (environment, wall, plant, loops objects, shack..) are the same
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I wouldnt expect much. I wonder how many devs are actually hired in this company.
Changes are very dull and to fix something takes them forever - The Game and Deathslinger map? still locked.
There is totally none communication between community and devs theirselves. You can feel it even when they stream. They almost never try to enagage (afraid of negativity?)
Seems like they dont even want to earn more (nice outfits for killers , survivors everybody really looking forward)
I like this game but I dont expect much though
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That's a very dangerous assumption haha
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We usually only get the content drops with the main chapter.
We're getting a Killer with the main chapter, and a Survivor with the mid-chapter. That's the same amount of content just spread out across the same period of time.
The issue is likely the licensing, no survivor was licensed from Hell Raiser. So the survivor will be an original one, and therefore kept separate from Pinhead's released.
The only real 'lack of content' here is the map, which we all know is due to them not making any new maps for a while, as they're redoing all of the existing ones. They have told us this on several occasions.
So there's nothing left for them to say.
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I don't really mind that there is no new survivor, it is just a different skin on which you need to spend bloodpoints bringer perks.
Killer is the interesting thing, because it brings something new into the game. Both for killer players and for survivor players who will face the killer. Of course maybe many survivor players will be unlucky and not get into a match with the new killer...
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My only real response to this is that it's because it's a license. If the license holders are not willing to give bhvr a survivor (or map) or couldn't settle on an agreement for the price of those, then we won't be getting them. Since that would have happened so far behind closed doors, that is not information they are going to tell us. I highly doubt the devs would have said, while meeting with the license holders, that they didn't want a survivor or map from a franchise they've stated would be like a dream chapter of theirs.
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The chapter before stranger things was ghostface and there was no survivor
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Ah, the joys of legal contracts and NDAs being a massive middle finger to anything and ensuring the only thing we can ever do is speculate
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I always more excited for gameplay updates, perk changes more than new chapters.
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Eh, not the first time the devs are giving us only a killer. It's boring for survivors.
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I stopped spending money on this game two years ago. I wish more people were as smart.
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But even this Chapter doesn't have a map update, I was expecting at least a map rework but that might be mid chapter with Haddonfield since Halloween is usually when the mid chapter would drop
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I think a large part of the problem is also coming up with perks. New perks are visibly more convoluted than older ones that usually do the same thing but better.
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Half à chapter means theyll work on the bugs and game issues
Right guys?
.... right?
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Players: omg stop releasing new content and fix the game!!!11
Also players: omg where is the new content!!!??
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nice strawman bud
if read my actual post you'd notice my issue is the lack of communication and the fact that BHVR was insistent on their schedule until now where they've split the content
and don't talk about 'fixing' the game when we didn't see anything major in the PTB.
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I just hope they turned that lack of content into a playable game on console, tbh.
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If they've legit had to split the content in order to fix consoles then I'm 100% for it.
I just wish they'd TELL US what's going on.
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I also don't spend much money on this game. I find the skins way too overpriced. I only buy skins I like during a sale.
Last time I spend money on this game is because of the removal of the stranger things chapter. I didn't have Demo and Steve and Nancy, so I wanted them before they were removed. Bought a few skins too in the sale. But now I will not spend any money again for a long time.
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I agree with you on that, it would be nice if they at least told us something on console optimisation.
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Each chapter should come with a map. GF, Blight, Trickster, Twins and now PinH all in without a map, plus we're losing the 3rd most recent map (hawkins)
Cod Vanguard releases in Nov with 20 maps from launch. 20 will be 30 by the time Trickster and Twins get a map.
I can't grasp why they don't make new variants of existing realms. Why not have a Crotus based wooded map, or a funfair on Coldwind etc etc, most of the work is already done, just need environmental changes.
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A new killer IS content for both sides. Besides, more often then not the Survivor perks are underwhelming and are not used more then once, if that.
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How is it boring? It's literally new content for Survivors. Survivors are just skins and more often then not the perks aren't anything special.
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Even with the lighter workload, just watch. The patch notes will be a page, maybe a page and a half, mostly filled with tiny fixes that nobody really cares about.
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Few are as smart or as resourceful as you, meat-eater. Thank you for being a wise human and please continue to be judicious with your chicken consumption.
God Bless.
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Why are people suddenly complaining about the "lack of content" when we just got a huge license with 2 survivors and killer-- especially after a majority of the forums were calling for less chapters per year?
This is a good thing. It means more time devoted to the actual improvement of the game.
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Some of yall have not been around for a while and it shows. Ghostface was a chapter as well, not a paragraph. This isn't some new thing. Bubba, Ash, and Bill were paragraphs because they were released during midchapter.
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I agree; the last year has been lackluster imo. One map in June '20, the second in June '21, and now only one more map is coming until the next anniversary. Speaking of which, the so-called focus on making that and Halloween events the pinnacle events of the year is questionable. The Anniversary event was so disappointing and a repeat of the last one. I hope the Halloween 2021 event is actually amazing and exciting. When is Realm Beyond resuming? What's left? Swamp, Haddonfield, and Red Forest?
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But the PTB didn't really show much improvement...?
I've been around since Legion came out.
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I can get around the lack of content. But this Update will probably break last gen consoles even more let's be honest.
If it had a map rework like Swamp or Red Forest then I would have been alright, but not even that.
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I can only assume that we'll be getting a bit more than usual during the mid-chapter then.
I honestly prefer this anyways. We have enough survivors and a lot of grind for perks. We have a lot of maps than need fixing. I don't need another broken thing to worry about in the game for now.
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