I'm tired of map selection!
This is going to be more of a rant, but feel free to add to it!
I am so tired of the map selection in this game, mainly when it comes to killer. There is over 20 different maps in this game yet somehow I seem to always get the same 3 and I'm sick of it. Allow me to explain:
I've been playing Huntress a lot due to the fact I want to prestige her, I've been trying to learn Trickster (which I am slowly just giving up on) and I main Billy. So explain to me why when I play these killers I get Midwich, the Institute or Hawkins, 3 of the worst ######### maps for these killers. It is starting to feel like the game does it intentionally although I know that isn't the case. I don't know if it is just my RNG but please for the love of dear Lord increase the chances of getting the other damn maps. I'm so tired of losing survivors because I can't throw hatchets over the loops, there is too many obstacles for the chainsaw or there is enough objects to dodge Trickster's blades. I don't even get to use my power half the time because the maps just screw me and I end up getting 2 kills if I'm lucky when every other map I can consistently get 3 or 4 kills. I hate the fact that I feel like I have to use map offerings just to avoid getting screwed by map selection.
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I swear I feel the same way like there is a map priority for certain killer.
Honestly I wonder if survivors notice the same like do they get huntress 60% of the time there on lerys?
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"Allow me to explain".
Dude, not even slightly necessary. I was with you right from the title alone. I love this game - I truly genuinely love it, despite its issues - but the map "rotation" or whatever they choose to call it is absolutely abysmal. I don't see any rotation at all. What I see is an utterly random shuffling that heavily favors a handful of the same maps. I don't see any kind of system in place that ensures that every map will get a run before the cycle shuffles again. I don't see anything in place that balances the weight of a realm that has 1 unique map as opposed to a realm that has 5 nearly identical ones. A few months ago I was getting so annoyed with getting the same 5-6 maps all day that I literally thought it was a bug and contacted BHVR about it. They said that they'd look into it but that at that time the maps were set to be randomized. I'm sorry but if I set my music playlist to random and it keeps playing the same ten songs out of fifty, either it's not random or it's broken.
Strangely I've noticed that the clump of maps that people get seem to differ from person to person. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people saying that kept getting maps that I hadn't seen all week, and vice versa. And it also seems to change. There was a while when I was getting Coldwind NONSTOP. Then last week or so it was Macmillan after Macmillan after Macmillan. Now it seems like it's nothing but Macmillan, Ormond, Coldwind, Yamaoka and Crotus. It's been at lest 2 weeks or more since I've seen Hawkins, The Game (to be fair I hear that this one is still disabled for no explained reason), Dead Dawg, or RCPD.
I know that there's a bit of placebo / confirmation bias to this. I understand that maps that people hate will stand out more, and maps that people love will feel underused. But there's legit truth to the fact that these maps are NOT evenly spaced as they should be, absolutely 100 percent NOT given the same equal chance to appear (and, again, given that some maps are unique and some are needlessly repeated five times over, they shouldn't be - every REALM should have an exactly equal chance of spawning a map, and those realms should then NOT show up again until all the other realms have had the chance to spawn a map of theirs as well. THEN it should cycle back around. I don't know what the system is now, but that isn't it.
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I've noticed most of my games on Hawkins have been for killers who aren't great on that map when playing survivor. It is usually a Trapper (no cover for traps) a Huntress (too many walls) or a Deathslinger (same as Huntress)
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The saloon is still disabled. And yeah I agree, it is more noticeable since I dislike the maps, but as killer this week I think I have gotten Autohaven and MacMillan both once or twice, but I know for a fact I have seen both Midwich and Hawkins at least 5 times since Monday. Honestly it is ridiculous and makes me wanna play people like Clown so I can't get screwed over by map choice. The map selection has made killer genuinely unfun to play this past week and more often than not I found myself getting frustrated just upon loading into the game knowing the headache that would ensue. There definitely needs to be a system in place like you said. I feel like I don't see half of the maps anymore unless an offering is used.
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I've also noticed that the character I choose sometimes seems to change the rotation. Again, it could be confirmation bias, but if I'm noticing changes when I play as a different character, that suggests to me that SOMETHING may be up.
If someone has the time and inclination - and I may do this myself at some point - it would be interesting to play ten matches each using a series of different characters and see if there's any pattern. Of course ten matches is a very small sample, but if for example Hawkins only shows up for someone like Huntress, as you said, whereas Macmillan keeps showing up for Doctor, like me, it might be worth some conversation. I don't want to get conspiratorial or anything but I've had the "map rotation sucks" conversation several times before and it always turns out that the maps that one person keeps getting and the maps that the other person is never getting. I mean look at us, same thing. I WANT Hawkins. I WANT Lery's. I WANT Midwich. I WANT The Game. Is it a coincidence then that I get a combination of maybe two of any of them over the course of ten hours of gameplay?
Gamedozer7 said that he feels that there's map priority based on who you choose and to be honest I think that there's a very strong chance that this is true.
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I agree. Like it is setting you up for failure in advance
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To be fair it's not my original idea but when someone mentioned it it made perfect sense and I've been championing it since. There are something like 36 maps in this game with more than 20 of them just being slight variants of the same realm. So, basically, we've got about 15 or 16 realms (or thereabouts). I have no idea why they can't set the rotation to go through each realm once, and only once, before restarting the shuffle. It's incredibly lame that the people who hate Hawkins or Midwich have to play through it several times a day. It's incredibly lame that people who are tired of Macmillan or Coldwind have to go through 7 of their ten variants before something else shows up. This is definitely something that I wish they'd address.
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Me too. I've noticed as survivor I get the same maps a lot too. And to be honest if I see the Wretched Shop of Autohave or any Autohaven map for that matter pop up again before the end of this week as survivor I will lose it! I have totaled it to be 12 times this week I have gotten this map. That exact variant.
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Only maps I see recently are corn and trapper maps sometimes hawkins or lerys. For example: I haven't been on RCPD ONCE the past week unless someone brought the offering (happened twice and the killer dc'd once).
Badham and Haddonfield seem to only show up when someone brings the offerings as well. I am rly getting sick of the corn maps.
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Use your map offerings when you play with a specific killer like Huntress. problem solved?
My RNG is broken as well and i decided to use my map offerings. 50% of the time other players are not bringing one and it doesn't go to waste.
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Point is that I shouldn't always have to use a map offering to avoid being screwed. Map rotation should be random.
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lve wanted to play like 100 games as huntress and see the number of times I get certain maps but I really suck at huntress
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As far as I've understood map rotations:
They take 3 realms that get priority, these 3 realms are practically randomized every X hours. And they will be picked about 80% of the time(not 100% sure on this number, but excluding map offerings, 20% is high balling it and is due to map offerings interfering)
This means if Lery's, Hawkins, Gideon, Haddonfield, Dead Dawg, Ormond, Silent Hill or Raccoon City are on the rotation(especially if it's more than 1), you'll get the same exact map very commonly. If McMillan, Coldwind, Springwood or Autohaven is on the rotation, you have a lot more different maps in the rotation.
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I've played probably about 50-70 this week as her. I have seen Macmillan about 3 or 4 times, Autohaven 2 or 3 times, Coldwind 10-12 times, the Asylum twice, Badham twice, Haddonfield once, Ormond 5 times, Red Forest 5 or 6 times and the rest of the time it was Midwich or Hawkins
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My match size is smaller but I feel like I get alot of the same. I would agree I get a lot of coldwind with her which is not as bad as it was with the old corn blindness. Its funny I play maybe 20 a week on a good week but I swear I see alot of lerys as well and spirits level
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I get the Yamoaka Estate with many killers but Huntress is never one of them. I think I tend to get that map more as survivor
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I feel the same maybe its just because its one of my worst maps because I left about a month after its release and don't know it so well and its like 60% huntress I play against though
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I wish they'd do more maps im sick of the lab, autohaven, coldwind and Macmillon gives us new maps and new map rotation!
I'm over new characters give us new maps and make other maps more likely to pop up!
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