Survivors Should Give Free Sacrifices.
I wanted to present an idea that I rarely (maybe never) see suggested. For example, you're in a SWF that's absolutely dominating a killer, or if the game just isn't going super well for them and the gens are just flying on by before they can even get so much as few hooks states. Just give them a free sacrifice.
The game probably was over within a few minutes anyways, and it's incredibly demoralizing to be on the receiving end of the ranking system putting you in an unwinnable position. It only costs you 5,000 bloodpoints to give them a free sacrifice and it really makes the community a nicer and friendlier place. If we show respect for our equally skilled opponents that's awesome, if we can show kindness to people we severely outmatch that's even better.
If enough people do things like that, then maybe we'll have less toxicity overall as newbie killers aren't forged by tryhard sweat squads and deliberate bullying to the point they feel they have to 'even the score' once getting good.
Obviously it's not my place to tell people how to play the game, but it's definitely a kindness worth considering.
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I do this. But most killers I try to give kills to won’t accept it, and just carry me to the open gate.
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We ain't running a charity here
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I do but last day was tough for me on surv. I deranked from 1 to 4 lmao. But I played killer and let a lot of nice and respectful people go. I was merciless on toxic people tho.
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My team and i used to give free hooks at the end if the game went really bad for the killer.
Unfortunatly many killer turned out to be ######### and started to sac people(or in some cases even let them bleed out). And then you have to read "Your problem if you trust me" in the endgame chat...
Not everyone is like that, but a good portion of them did exactly that and thats why we stoped it more or less.
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Yeah no, that basically never ever happens, at least compared to killer giving hatch.
When you meet competent SWF, they're there to make your game as miserable as possible most of the time or they'll just extremely efficient and just leave. Solos usually won't get results anywhere near crushing a killer.
I don't think I've seen a single survivor in almost 3,5k hours do that to me.
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Only the killer has to give escapes. Survivors deserve escapes, killers deserve lack of sacrifices.
/s
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Killer giving free hatch happens quite often and is even expected.
Meanwhile survivors prefer to teabag at the exit gate instead of gifting a kill.
In 2600 hours I can count the amount of gifted kills on 1 hand.
So no, survivors will never start to do this. Even more, when they stomp a new killer it's more likely they even make toxic comments in the endgame chat.
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No thanks
I don't give hatch and i will not expect free kills either. Sure sometimes the game isn't fair. But that's on the devs, i dont like having to bend the rules like that.
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I do sometimes, but some of them are refusing to get this kill that easily. i find them nice that they still want to get their kills with a fair play.
Recently I'm running into players who are not deserve it for one reason or another.
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Why should anyone give a sacrifice or hatch. i aint gonna give a free kill
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I have only been given a free sacrifice once. I have let literally hundreds of survivors go. And I am the toxic one, apparently. Never change survivors.
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You see, that's an even more wholesome exchange, more often than not.
They acknowledge defeat, and are letting you leave.
But if you stay, that shows that you care.
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Uh, excuse you.
I often feel sorry for the last guy if it's a stomp because of stupid plays, or I happen to be in a good enough mood to offer it to the last guy.
There ain't no power trip in charity.
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I rarely do this, but I tried giving a killer a free kill the other day but he carried me to the gate.
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Yeah, when I power trip. I let them bleed out and teabag them, why the heck would I give them an escape? It is out of the kindness of my cold, dead, and black heart.
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Pfft. Watched my friend try to play friendly Demo on Midwich last night, not being aggressive. He got stuck in the air against the courtyard wall and could only move his camera. The survivors teabagged and made noise notifications and waited until the last second to leave.
Kindness is obviously too much to ask. Common decency would be nice sometimes.
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Because it feels extremly condescending even if you are doing it in good faith. Most people want to feel like they earned the kill, getting a freebie won't make the bad taste go off. I think the thing most killers appreciate when you stomp is just to open the gates and leave inmediately.
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The best thing you can do if you feel bad for a killer is just leave as soon as possible and don't bm in end game chat.
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I got given the run around on swamp by a swf, I gave them some resistance but like I always find, my mid game suffers a bit. I killed one and 1 refused to leave, I just assumed it was arrogance but it then felt like it was a sympathy kill. As a killer, I don't want sympathy from survivors, not my fault or problem that swf can out perk/play killers.
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Won't happen unfortunately. Swfs have such an inflated ego that I'm surprised they're heads havent popped. But they don't feel bad making the killers feel miserable. Thats why im against giving free hatch against a swf. You as killer should make them feel hopeless run strong builds and dominate the game using tunneling or camping if you can.
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Most killers I know do not like pity hooks/kills.
I do not get dominated often by survivors, but when I do - I don't want a pity kill. You earned your escape...so please just go. If they try to give me one.. I will simply drop them at the exit gate and run off to break walls/pallets.
On a similar note - I do not like to be given hatch as survivor.
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Yes because generalizing a large portion of the player base seems mature. I think I have played SWF (2-3 people; have never been in a 4-man) maybe 100 games in almost 2000 hours as survivor, but according to you we all have inflated egos... cool story bro. No actually we are just friends who wanted to chill out and play some games together. Approximately 30 of those matches were a 2-man SWF because we were doing a charity stream for the family of a real life friend who passed away, but PLEASE generalize SWFs on the forums because hyperbole is always a great way to make your point.
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Players do this. I’ve done it myself and have seen others too. I’ve also seen someone from a 3 man SWF do it two weeks ago. NGL- that one did surprise me.
Someone above mentioned sometimes the killer doesn’t accept it (guess his pride made him feel he had to earn it- i respect that), and that’s true. I’ve been carried to the exit gates before and seen others as well. One thing though, offering sacrifices are rare. Doesn’t really happen in red or purple ranks either (from my experience). SBMM screwed me over then i got hit with the season ending rank reset, so i fell into green ranks. After SBMM was over, while I was trying for dear life to climb out- that’s when I saw the before mentioned sacrifice offering. Prior to that, couldn’t tell you when was the last one I saw.
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Yeah no I'm not doing that I don't take a hatch nor I give it unless Player played really well and I don't want free kills either
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I’ve done this if the killer has gotten completely run over and got no hooks, or just one. More often than not, they won’t take them.
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Who the hell's ignoring that? We all know comms are a massive advantage.
If that's all you're trying to say, don't do this borderline conspiratorial accusation against SWFs that all they want is the competitive edge.
Yeah, they DO just want to play a game with their friends about 90% of the time. Half of my games with my friends end with us dead and laughing.
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No. When I give people the door, THAT'S when I send that message.
When I give them the hatch, that's me being a nice guy, rather than being a jerkass like you assume.
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I do it. Just had a game against a Red Rank Bubba, poor thing kept getting ran and only had two hooks by the end of the game. I opened a gate but just ran around it, and when he walked over I ran to a hook and bagged away. He did have some BM by Chainsawing me as Spider Daddy took me into his loving embrace, but he may have thought I was trying to tilt him
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Power trip away. I still get the points.
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As killer I don't give hatch anymore and I don't want pity kills if I lose.
As survivor I don't give killers a free kill and I don't want hatch.
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I wouldn't know about high-level play. My friend and I don't usually get past rank 15. Ranks 16 and 15 are where we hover. I guess at these ranks it's mostly about making dying fun.
90%+ of my time playing survivor in the game has been solo survivor. I just... I've grown to really hate it. I mean yeah, you can play fine in solo, but the majority of matches felt miserable, even when I escaped. Trying to escape as survivor means sitting around doing gens, and escaping rarely feels rewarding enough to make the tedium of it worthwhile. The role of survivor just isn't fun in solo, the mechanics are boring and you can't really meme well with randoms, you risk coming off as a troll or griefer.
But that's my personal viewpoint. We obviously have different experiences in the game.
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As some of the discussion drifted into talk that was a bit off topic, just wanted to pop in with a reminder to keep the discussion on the primary topic of the thread, please.
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When I play survivor I am never given a "free escape". And as killer I won't do so neither.
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While that is a nice thing to do and I would never discourage it, you also don't want to give killers a sense of entitlement.
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If killers giving the hatch is a power trip, then what's teabagging at the exit gate?
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I would do it but then I remember most killers wont show mercy and will not give you the hatch escape even when 2 of your survivor teammates disconnected at the start of the match, leaving you with the impossible task of doing 5 gens with 2 people left if you don't have a key.
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I will never accept pity kills, makes no difference anyway.
I try to get better at a killer so no amount of kills I didnt earned will help me.
Also if I get ######### on in a match, even that 1k wont stop me from seeing entity displeased, so dont bother doing it.
That said, in my 1000 hours I have seen this 2x so its nothing to worry about
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it can kind of depend. Sometimes its charity, a way of saying "Thanks for the game :)" sometimes you destroyed their team and its a way of saying "I am a merciful god, i could have slayed you where you stood but i pity you, and thus grant you mercy."
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Now that you mentioned this, I can remember quite a few occurrences when the killer gave hatch to the last survivor (and did it myself), but I can't remember even a singe time when a survivor gave a free sacrifice to the killer instead of teabaggin at the gates with his teammates. Really makes you think, huh?
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I used to do this but 9 times out of 10 the killer just downs you and carries you to the gate. So now I just leave.
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I mean, to be fair, unless you've been a rare killer to them that is actually memorable on the long run, they wont really have a reason to give you a sacrifice.
Why do you have to be rare to them? Because 0k's are already rare AF due to the nature of public matches. If 0k's were as common as 4k's, survivors sacrificing themselves in a similar way that a killer gives hatch would become much more common.
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i think the vas majority of inflated survivors egos would disagree with giving the killer a free sacrifice, but also I can say the same about killers. To pride full to take a couple of extra bp from a friendly player.
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lol. u not serious right?
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Giving free kills is a personal choice.
If you are doing it simply because you feel bad for someone, I can guarantee you many of them will just bring you to the gate. They want to learn the game not have kills be handed to them.
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No. I dont give Killers free Kills and I dont expect free Kills. I also dont expect to get the Hatch.
The difference is also that Killers get MUCH more BPs than Survivors. If a Killer has 4 BBQ-Stacks and 3 Kills, they have so much BPs, it does not really matter if they get the last BPs for the Sacrifice.
Survivors on the other hand get far less BPs than Killers, the 5k for escaping are the main source of Survival-BPs. Big reason why you dont see Survivors giving away free Kills. Far more impactful BP-wise.
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Do 2 Gen alone (2500), do a Gen with a team mate (2500), do few totems (3000), have 2 safe unhooks (2500) and 3-4 heals (1200), have a good chase and stun Killer a few times (3000).
Then finally escape (5000).
Look how epic the performance is, without escaping, you earn less than 15.000 BP. Until the BP gain greater for survivors, I might think about that.
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best idea ever !! i agree
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oh super toxic
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