The obvious reason DBD has the worst community.
Because it's a 4v1 game.
DBD attracts hyper-casual gamers that want to feel good about their gaming, but without actually being good at anything.
Check every toxic Survivor's Steam profile.
Will you find... CSGO?
No.
Will you find... Street Fighter?
No.
What will you find?
Stardew Valley.
Bloons TD.
Animal Crossing.
Etc...
Dead by Daylight attracts people because it is a true 4v1. Imagine, if you will... if basketball fans were given the chance to 20v1 Michael Jordan.
Imagine how many people would grab that chance. Because they want to win. And they want to brag about winning. About beating Michael Jordan.
Was it a 20v1?
Yes.
Is that something they'll mention in conversation?
No, lmao.
Dead by Daylight's severe imbalance is exactly what people want. Because people want to feel like they can win at PvP games. But they can't do this with actual PvP games.
And so...
They come here.
And they have FLOCKED here most certainly.
MOST games are versus SWF's. MOST SWF's are hyper-toxic. MOST SWF's are also only mediocre. But all it takes is gen efficiency. Three people holding M1 while one person loops for... oh, say, about 60 seconds only.
That's all you need.
And there you go.
Free ego boosts for the most toxic of human beings.
4 happy players at the expense of 1.
80% thumbs up, that's good business for BHVR.
And this is why Dead by Daylight has the single worst community in all of video gaming. Because that is DIRECTLY who it is attracting.
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This post is ten times funnier if you imagine it's being yelled by Alex Jones.
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Troll much?
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MOST games are versus SWF's. MOST SWF's are hyper-toxic. MOST SWF's are also only mediocre.
Assumption much?
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Well, as expected, the Survivors I speak of flood into the thread, ready to defend their territory.
Let's keep watching the posts. They will use all of the same lines from the same script we already know. It will amuse the small audience this thread was speaking out to.
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Don't be inane. I am not a survivor main. I just think 99% of your posts are trash and only created to incite even more divisiveness. You are the epitome of hyperbolic. You are a prime example of why this forum needs an ignore/block function.
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Gotta Download CS:GO right now to become a better human being.
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Usually when I encounter a toxiod on PS4, I occasionally check their profile and 9/10 it's Fornite (often with a Victory Royale screenshot wallaper), Rocket League, Warzone, Mortal Kombat and various free-to-play PVP games. Polished off by a Anime avatar. It's all...so tedious.
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Here I thought I had CS:GO just to get a weapon skin for the TF2 Sniper, turns out I'm so good at DBD I was preparing even before I thought about playing it. We truly are the real gamers.
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Is this intentional irony, or?
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I can name 5 different communities off the top of my head that are more toxic and or/ have crossed more lines then DBD’s without question
1.League of Legends (still surprised people still play that on account of Activision’s recent activities)
2.YU-Gi-Oh, both versions, you try and play then good luck beating someone who’s spent £600 on shiny cardboard in order to infinite lock you out of playing the game
3.2B2T, people have committed actually crimes in order to get a advantage on this server
4.Call of Duty, still surprised people play this on account of Activision being the scum of the earth but what can you do
5.Roblox, the platform is populated by mostly children, who are the physical manifestation of the term “Little #########” and will scream at you if you dare do anything to them regardless of what game you’re playing
DBD is tame compared to these tbh
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"Defend their territory" jesus christ.
Quit the game, go play a "real pvp" game. For your own good, if you genuinely and unironically feel like your posts make it seem like about the game.
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Im sure Michael Jordan will win anyway this guy is a beast lol
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What exactly is your definition of toxicity? The reasoning seems all over the place.
But personally, coming from Overwatch? This is chill as can be. I hesitate to even call this community toxic. And back when I played that everyone there said this place was worse. Glad they were beyond wrong.
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Yes, let's get into this. I was actually going to bring this up in my OP, decided not to.
- LoL does NOT have a worse community. Does it have a TERRIBLE one? Yes, OH yes, indeed indeed. However... It is NOT worse than DBD's. And, honestly? One of the biggest reasons is that the 5v5 nature of LoL holds a lot of it back. Imagine LoL players, but now every match, the opposing team has... 2+ leavers at the start of the game. Think of how much ######### talking this opens up for the toxic 5 player team, since they have no threat of losing, and have full control over the game and zero chance at backfire... ... ... Okay. Well, that's what DBD always is.
- Yugioh... You know what, Yugioh's pretty rough, not gonna lie. But their toxicity is kinda different. And, ultimately, again... it's held back by the fact that it's a 1v1 format. You can't get too toxic because it's just you versus another guy. These toxic people will lose games. And they know this. So, they will only be toxic when they know they can get away with it, or at least believe they can. Compared to DBD, they know right out of the gates that it's a 4v1, lmao. People literally teabag Killers via Lethal Pursuer auras.
- Not sure what this is, RIP...
- The company doesn't really count as the community. Or else Blizzard would be on the list, and I don't even mean with the modern drama included.
- Roblox, I can imagine it's pretty bad... But let's be honest. When it's 15 year old kids, that's much better than when it's grown-ass adult humans on the other end.
I'll be honest.
The ONLY community I consider worse than DBD is...
Neopets.
But that's so niche, most people (if not all) don't really know this community, so it's not worth mentioning.
Also, they're like the Supreme Overlord Gods of bad communities, and I tend to not bring them up as THE worst, because they go without saying.
Technically, I consider DBD the 2nd worst.
But Neopets is so out of this world, it's not even included in conversation.
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Oh, no doubt he is.
But... alas, no, Jordan does not win 20v1.
He wouldn't even be able to get through the opposing team without fouling, lol. His only chance would be full court shots, AND DON'T GET ME WRONG, he would even still win some games like this.
But... realistically... if you had to bet money on it... smart money is against him.
Just like smart money is against Killer, at any given time.
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o.O
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Yeah, it's actually crazy, dude.
It's truly insane.
EVERY game tonight - EVERY game, I have recorded proof of this - has been toxic SWF's talking ######### about winning in a 4v1 video game.
And it's ALWAYS the same stuff being said. Always the same Script. Because they're all the same person.
Almost verbatim, every time: "get good" or "ur just bad"
Every time actually.
It's just insane.
This game attracts-- This game ATTRACTS this. SPECIFICALLY, and EXACTLY.
It's such an exact formula, that the people actually say the EXACT same words.
Every.
Time.
It's truly wild. It's BIZARRE, even. Like some Twilight Zone #########.
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So anyway I have a much better idea for a post
Have you ever considered that maybe you are actually bad? Like, not meant in an insulting way because everyone ways has room to improve, but if you find yourself being crushed this often then maybe you actually are just... Not playing where you should be. Exacerbated by BHVR thinking SBMM actually functioned and decided to make it permanent.
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I agree that this community is toxic. I'm not sure that all of the reasoning about people's motivations tracks.
The one thing I think might be true is that part of the friction around DBD comes from the broad set of players it attracts. A certain kind of person plays hardcore competitive multiplayer games and expects to play them a certain way -- a much wider range of people play DBD and have a wider range of expectations about how to play. If you're a bully to begin with, DBD is a good place to find victims, because you're matching with people who aren't hardcore gamers, and the game design has left lots of components that can be exploited for bullying.
So it may actually be easier to bully people in this game than it is in at least some other multiplayer games, and that may be a reason why it attracts would-be bullies.
Where I disagree is that I don't think every single gamer is just waiting for their chance to be a bully. A lot of people just want to play normally, and a lot of people who favour laid-back games play DBD in a pretty laid-back way, too.
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Usually the most toxic players you can encounter have FPS games, Hentai stuff and the russian flag on their profile. if it's even public
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I define toxic as “harassing and verbally abusing people”
trust me, I think we all know what LoL and CoD are most famous for
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Being good or bad is not the point of OP's opinion/observations I think.
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Read the comment I was replying to, not the actual op.
If you're being told that you need to improve- albeit in far less eloquent ways- maybe you actually do.
If it's a couple of times after you've had bad games, it isn't much. If it's every single game there may be a pattern arising.
Because everyone in this community, killers and survivors and everyone inbetween, are far too quick to blame everything else for their failures and not see if they could have improved. While you may not have known you ran to a deadzone, then fair enough, but if you knew and ran there out of panic then it's a you problem. If you know two survivors are working on a generator, and you overcommit to someone else running you away from your 3gen, it's a you issue, etc.
Everyone has ways to improve. Not many people are able to see it.
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Sure, I'm bad. But I'm better than most. (Which is frankly not saying much. Generally speaking, 90+% of any game's population is utter garbage. DBD is certainly no exception.)
But the thing is...
If I lose... Did I make mistakes?
Sure. Yes.
But why does this mean I deserve my loss?
Did my ENEMIES make mistakes??? Yes. More than me, most likely.
But... they're playing Survivor. They're allowed to make mistakes. They're allowed to make... quite a number of mistakes.
But the moment a Killer loses a single chase, it all crumbles into itself. "WOW BAD CHASE NOOB, GET ROLLED. YOU DESERVE THE LOSS. YOU LOST A CHASE LMAO!"
It's totally asinine.
P.S.
I win most of my games.
There's this weird, illogical assumption going on that, just because I'm complaining, it must mean that I lose most of my games.
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That's a cool donkey!
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Almost verbatim, every time: "get good" or "ur just bad"
Every time actually.
Not to be that guy, but in my experience survivors reserve that kind of comments for campers or tunnelers. Most of the times they just mistakingly think the killer camped or tunneled, but if you get these messages every time maybe you should consider changing playstyle.
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Jesus Christ.
Even when I play Pig, I get flamed, lmao.
"Don't rely on addons to win."
This community is the absolute worst. There's no discussion here.
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Okay, first of all...
Why would I consider changing playstyle? Because Survivors who lose complain about losing? Sounds ACTUALLY like I should PRESERVE my playstyle.
Aside from that, no, I don't camp or tunnel.
Or, that is to say... I don't think about it.
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Whichever path I take, it was because it was the strategic path. I don't care about what Survivors think about it. Especially when they're all robots that fling every buzzword in their Survivor Dictionary at me, in no particular sensible order to make coherent sentences.
According to Survivors, you're a tunneller AND a camper AND a slugger AND you use sweaty meta perks the very instant you M1 them.
So, really, I do not give a flying ######### what Survivors think. They've ruined that privilege a long time ago, and every match since.
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I take it you got a head pop?
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Thanks! I stole it from Twitter!
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You again 😂
Before SBMM, as a killer you could easily go from rank 20 to rank 1 winning 95% of the trials. And this with Blight, considered as the hardest killer to play.
As a killer, i have almost never struggled to get 4K without camping/tunneling and this because there was no proper matchmaking. Now it will get harder, it will require skill and i'm happy about it. I will have fair match for both sides.
You are clearly mad cause you absolutely want to win every trials and this easily. Ppl on the forum just have to check your other threads to know the kind of player you are.
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Connection pop before the head pop could happen.
Then I was in a tight endgame situation. Three people alive. Two had active traps, with the last gen having just completed. I hooked the third non-trapped person... ... and there I was, staring at an exit gate.
I decided to open it.
I went to harass the Jigsaws. Game seemed like it could be a 4k. I pushed Nancy away from the 3 boxes near my opened gate, and she ran towards the 4th box which was also near the closed exit gate.
The other trapped person went for the rescue, which was basement. They rescued, I downed the trapped guy, hooked 'em dead.
Nancy 25%'d it over at that exit gate, opened it, and the two people escaped. Nancy did not finish her searches on any other boxes.
Post-game lobby, I asked how close it was for Nancy.
She didn't answer. And I was told not to rely on addons.
Shame that, as expected, such a cool strategy and tight moment on both sides was spoiled by Survivor attitude.
OH WELL!
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A killer can't loose a chase 😂
A killer has to defend generators and have a good map control. Winning chase is secondary and comes with a good map control. Of course you have to be decent at chases too, if you are a total potato it's over but main gameplay for a killer is map control, that's all that matters.
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"You again," he proclaimed, after having just searched for all of TGB's posts. "You are clearly mad."
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You claim this community is the worst, and it's you who starts attacking people as a whole: survivros are hypercasuals (like that's a sin), they don't play CSGO (like that was some sort of a determine factor whether you're a good human being or 'true' gamer), they play with their friends.
There's no discussion here because you automatically assume that you're the good guy, the 'true gamer', but others are bad, they are those ######### casuals who ruin my game. There's no discussion because you want no discussion, you just want people to agree with you.
You add to the toxicity. It works both ways, not only survivor can be toxic.
Plus you won't change people who want to write 'ez' or something. Or call you names. LoL hasn't changed in like what 10 years? More? So DBD won't change either. Yeah, it sucks, yeah it's not fun, but that's how it is. Those who want to be toxic will be toxic no matter what.
Oh and one more thing - I came to this game purely for fun, yes, I play with friends mostly, yes I play casually, yes I don't give a ######### if I win or not. I'm rather casual, non competitive player. But here's your theory going to ######### - I have 2000h in PUBG, pretty PvP, isn't it? I was not the best player in the world, but I was doing alright. I play MTG for like 15 years, I played tournaments, so trust me, I don't need to play 4v1 to 'feel good about my gaming'.
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I know responding to you is a trap at this point, but what you're saying is a common fallacy that Survivors spew, so here we go.
No, chases are the most important thing. You need to down people to hook them. You need to hook them (THREE TIMES PER PERSON) to kill them.
If you run around "zoning people off gens," you're not downing people, and so you're not hooking people. Survivors are getting gens done, because you can only be in one place at a time, but they can be in 4 places at a time. "Map control" is an oxymoron for Killer, because it cannot be done. It is a 4v1.
Killer wins by, honestly, sacrificing gens to start snowball pressure. If momentum is lost even once, odds are, Killer loses, since it usually takes about 3 gens to get proper pressure going.
Obviously, these things change if the Survivors are all clueless, but that's not what we're talking about here. And ultimately, Killer only wins by being able to snatch a plethora of Survivor mistakes. (But alas, if the Killers themselves make any mistakes, it all crumbles.)
But anyway...
Yeah.
Map pressure doesn't make any sense as an argument. You have 4 spread out Survivors working gens on opposite sides of the map. When you run at 1 Survivor, 3 others are holding M1. Please explain, step by step, how you "control the map".
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are you serious? we are talking about the guy that runs info wars, you normie.
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Nope nope and nope.
I said X things, but you gave them Y attributes.
Calling people hyper-casuals was not an insult. However, you certainly morphed it into one. "Like that's a sin." No, I never said that, and I never implied it. You just got super insecure about it, and projected.
Not playing CSGO was an example. Just like Street Fighter. The point there was that these toxic Survivors don't play ANY actual PvP game. Because when they do, they lose, and they can't do anything about it because the only path is to get better at it. But here in DBD, they can play a 4v1 game, as the 4.
And I don't even need to get into this over-explanation. All that I have to do is point out these statistical facts. Vast majority of the toxic Survivors don't play a single symmetrical PvP game. Make of that what you will.
As for your closer - none of that matters, unless you are indeed a toxic Survivor that talks ######### every time you win.
If you are, then hey, looks like I was wrong.
But if you're not, then you're not really proving anything there.
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Well, again - 15 years of playing pure PvP game and few years of tournaments... I don't think I feel 'insecure' about it.
You just sounded like that was meant to be an insult that's why I commented on it.
And again again - I've seen toxic survivors (and toxic killers) play 'actual' PvP games. Generalization like that is pretty dangerous or rather inaccurate - I'm 100% sure you haven't seen EVERY toxic survivor's profile, hell, you haven't even seen most of them. Why? First of all number of players and second, some profiles are locked.
So yeah, saying that toxic survivors are like that because they don't play 'actual' PvP games? I don't know, feels like generalization. Especially that some of those 'actual' PvP games also have pretty bad communities. Type of game doesn't make you toxic - it's you who makes you toxic. If you are toxic you will be like that in DBD, CSGO, LoL and every other game.
I played almost every major online card game and for example in Hearthstone after winning game, some people will add you just to say pretty mean stuff. And I feel like this is 'actual' PvP game.
If anything I feel like it's other way around - casuals are usually just, well, casual, because they don't give a damn. When I played PUBG I had more fun from 'meme actions' than actual sweaty playing. Same in DBD. So... I don't think there's a clear relation between being casual/hypercasual player and being toxic.
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Well man, that's why you are loosing your trials then. You didn't understand the core gameplay as a killer. No offense saying this but it's clear you are a baby killer, no matter how many hours you have into the game.
The killer map control just relies on 3 generators, like 1/4 of the map...
- At the start of the trial, check how are the generators (use corrupt intervention). Select 3 generators (smallest area to cover between all three) that will be your end game generators (to end up in a 3 gens situation).
- Now your map is divided in half : the 3 gens you want at the end game and the rest of the map. Now be aware of how corrupt intervention has been placed.
- IF the 3 gens you have selected are the one corrupted, you can go chase all other gens without any hesitation for 2 minutes straight. Apply huge pressure on the free generators, and get as many down as possible. With experience you will know when you have to continue a chase and when you will have to let it go. An injured survivor is sometimes good enough to save some times.
- (3bis) If the corrupted generators are not the 3 gens you have chosen, then you can't freely roam the map and loose too many times in chases. My advice is to try to have short chases and to come back on the 3 generators to be sure that no one does them. Sometimes, survivors will try to do those generators and it's a win/win for you, you will have kind of a 3 gens situation the whole game.
Against a good SWF, you will have a hard time, sure, but then, after some hooks, don't hesitate to slug and camp (when 2 gens are left) to get a kill for exemple.
Never camp early, never tunnel early, it's useless. And have in mind the 3 selected gens 100% of the time.
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When you think that this post is funny. Count on Judge Judy.
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And i thought Survs could do this by joining a swf and holding m1 for 3 mins a game well your red rank friend loops a newbie with 2 perks.
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Omg he plays CS GO he's such a PRO!!!!!!
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Conversely, I have a game of Stardew Valley going because I find it relaxing before bed LOL.
I don't believe I've ever insulted a Killer and told them to "get good" if I escaped. It's rude, juvenile, and a waste of time.
You seem to...kind of loathe this game though. You sound as if you despise the entire premise, alluding to the idea that 4 v 1 is just unfair for Killers (when you say survivors are allowed to make mistakes but Killers aren't). Killers CAN screw up imo. I've seen Killers make a wrong move, get pallet slammed, lose chase and switch to something new on the spot. They can still do pretty well.
In the end though, if the game bothers you this much, maybe try survivor side? It's true there is much less pressure playing survivor.
Otherwise maybe turn off end game chat?
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The fact that you were immediately harassed after making the thread, and no forum mod has come to punish the people harassing and being toxic in this thread. Shows that right down to the support staff, nobody cares and they promote it.
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