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Killer camps and tunnels so I...
Seriously, if you even considered marking 1 or 3, you are the reason killers do camp and tunnel :).
Don't like something? Punish it. Giving them an easy win is not punishing.
Just like noed. You can cry like a little baby about not so good perk or just... cleanse totems...
Killer camps and tunnels so I... 49 votes
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Die because it takes a co-ordinated team to finish the gens in time to punish it.
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Genrush is a myth. Lack of map pressure is the dev's fault, not the survivors - or it's your explicit fault for camps/tunnels - we as killers need to put the blame and attention where it belongs rather than on survivors doing their 1.5 dang tasks.
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@MadLordJack All it takes is Kindred.
@ElusivePukka Genrush is literally focusing on gens and nothing else, letting teammates die ect. Which is a good thing when killer just facecamps. Know your terms, buddy.
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do gens
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Nope, Kindred only frustrates those who run it. A camping Killer does not prevent a Survivor from crouching next to the hook for possibly the whole duration of both Hook Stages.
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If that were true, I would be an immortal goddess of Dead by Daylight, sprinkling escapes on all of my lucky teammates.
And so would they be to me, because I see Kindred used quite commonly. Funnily enough, teamwork and co-ordination require more than information. Namely, communication.
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I will say though, just doing gens and escaping is boring. Every now and then I'll go for the save just so I actually get to play the game.
Spicy is better than holding m1.
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@MadLordJack If person is not stupid, aura reading is more than enough to coordinate. Not everyone is smart, I agree with that, but you can't balance around people who don't use tools already given to them.
@Dhurl421 And that's why killers camp, because it works.
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I know the term, kiddo, I just think "Survivors doing their 1.5 tasks exactly as the game intends while not being interrupted" isn't something worthy of any term. Genrush used to exist, it's just now a lie bad killers tell themselves to justify poor performance - completely gone are the days where people actually use the 20 second gen builds.
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@ElusivePukka I like how you state that you know the term, call me kiddo and then deny existance of the thing I gave you exact definition of. Very mature and constructive discussion.
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Say something worthy of merit, and try to keep your hypocrisy to a minimum.
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@ElusivePukka Before you try to take a moral high ground at least know the definitions before trying to argue. Kiddo :).
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Stupidity has little to do with it. The best players in the world aren't worth a damn if they have competing ideas.
Not to mention the fact that not everyone runs a single perk. Kindred isn't basekit and you can't share the information unless you're the one hooked, so the argument that it solves everything is worthless even pretending that your average team is a bunch of genuine, skilless genrushers that actually give a crap about escaping and don't just suicide at the killer to get into the next trial a bit faster, which is something most experienced players do because they all know how hollow a victory that is.
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This isn't an argument. This is a petulant child being told they're wrong.
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@ElusivePukka So how would you call this?
"Say something worthy of merit, and try to keep your hypocrisy to a minimum."
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A helpful suggestion you've yet to follow.
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I'll always try to go for the save. I'm less likely to do it when I'm soloing but when I'm playing with my SWF I don't want them to die. It's also pretty funny when all of us are screaming and laughing our asses off when we're trading off and on trying to save each other. We don't really care about winning, or if the camping/tunneling is "toxic".
I'm also the super altruistic one in my SWF so I'm always going for flashlight saves and pallet saves. I'll unhook in front of a camping killer because I don't want my friend to die. I always give my life for my friends and I don't have a problem with it because it gives us a laugh. My best friend is also newer at the game so I try my best to make sure she escapes as much as possible even at the cost of my life so she can get more blood points and whatnot that I don't really need :)
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I dont give a ######### coz there are several exploits also the survivors use... like when they get hit by killer and right on the second they can drop a pallet in hurt state and get to live to tell the story 3 times... fix it
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@ControlldKarnage It's literally a thing devs added inentionally... because survivors don't have it ease enough. Same goes for messing up pallet stun save, it just heals you back up.
@Tricksters_Wife And that's why killers do camp, because it works. Not saying it's bad or good... just that it works because people refuse to do gens.
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seriously, if the killer is face camping, stop trying to waste time going for a save and do gens, every time i get face camped, I am more salty at my teammates for not doing gens and punishing the killer than the killer for getting a free 4k by doing nothing. This community loves to complain about camping but instead of making it unviable by leaving before the killer has a chance to get their next victim, they stand around the hook like bunch of doufus trying to unhook me , worst is the person that's getting camped decides to suicide on hook or DC's which pretty much results in the killer automatically winning and getting a 3k or 4k.
Obviously its not the same when its EGC.
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I despise your offered options. The worst is: "Cry about it in post game chat".
I know it is common these days that people try to shame emotions, but it is wrong. Every emotion is justified and ok to have. Shaming emotions or someone expressing them is wrong and malious.
One can shame behaviour but not emotions. So please stop spreadding and enabling this kind of thinking and behaviour.
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