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When Michael eventually gets a buff, at least we can hope..

I feel like they should get rid of the instamori. atleast all but one. people think it takes alot of time to get to tier 3 with them. it does not.

he should also get faster pallet breaking in t3.

Comments

  • MigrantTheGreat
    MigrantTheGreat Member Posts: 1,379

    You can't get rid of the tombstone addons because of the Evil Incarnate achievement.

    I personally think Mikey needs a add on pass and to just get rid of T1 and he'll be fine.

  • IlliterateGenocide
    IlliterateGenocide Member Posts: 6,027
    edited September 2021

    i like t1 cause it feels like micheal tho it should be easier to get to 2 and also scratched mirror is super fun. It feels super unfun to get instamori super quickly without bein hooked. they could change the achivement. or better yet make it so you need to atleast get 1 hook. but get rid of 1 of the mori addons to make way for more useful like breaking pallets faster. keep Judith. get rid of tombstone piece.

    but yeah full addon pass. just dont do a billy.

  • chargernick85
    chargernick85 Member Posts: 3,171

    Tbf when we say it takes a long time to get it's referring to a group of good survivors. It can seem fast if 2 bots let you stalk them to max behind a corner while they blindly work a gen.

  • IlliterateGenocide
    IlliterateGenocide Member Posts: 6,027
    edited September 2021

    i think all he needs back is group stalk. make him so much better just like that. obviously not perfect but would help. tho it wouldnt really be following his lore. since he usually targets one victim at a time.

  • IlliterateGenocide
    IlliterateGenocide Member Posts: 6,027

    his playstyle is really unique. i just wish ghostface wasent 100 timse better of a stealth killer option. honestly dont know what to do with him. i dont want him to be another pallet chewer in t3 like nemesis or demogorgan. but faster pallets. and mabye a slight endurance built in would be nice.

  • IlliterateGenocide
    IlliterateGenocide Member Posts: 6,027

    I want him to be a tier. thats the perfect spot for most killers. i dont want another powehouse like spirit and nurse. tho blight is balanced for his strength capability

  • IlliterateGenocide
    IlliterateGenocide Member Posts: 6,027

    about the other change i suggested. would you remove change is instamori addons in any way?

  • IlliterateGenocide
    IlliterateGenocide Member Posts: 6,027

    yes after they buff him up to a tier is what i mean. cause currently i feel like the ammount of stalk to instamori dosent justify a insta out. but when he gets much stronger they will remove them. either change the achivement. or make it so the instamori is after 1st hook

  • IlliterateGenocide
    IlliterateGenocide Member Posts: 6,027

    thanks for the input. i thought so with the stranger things stuff leaving. nice to get a little more conformation.

  • stormy_
    stormy_ Member Posts: 208

    come on guys !! no f myers ;(

    most d/c game before he do his instamori

  • Kebek
    Kebek Member Posts: 3,676

    No they should not get rid of it. They should balance it out, meaning add more restrictions/conditions to purple tombstone.

    Pink one is already perfect as it needs to be paired with infinite T3 and getting both to max tier takes the whole game and requires full build around it while also having a ton of counterplay.

  • vacaman
    vacaman Member Posts: 1,140

    Playing against red tombsone myers is very fun and easy to counter, and the purple one isn't that broken imo, his best consistent build is with the card and the bowtie, both green addons.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 2,039
    edited September 2021

    I hope not, tombstone piece on myers is really fun and scary. I don't want them to change characters just so they are considered "fair", where's the fun in that

  • thrawn3054
    thrawn3054 Member Posts: 5,897

    Tombstone Piece is miserable and really needs to go. He also needs buffs to his T1 and stalking in general.

  • Dwight_Fairfield
    Dwight_Fairfield Member Posts: 7,014

    All Mikey needs is a few tweaks rather than a total rework, similar to what they did with Wraith, to put him in a comfortable spot;

    • Let him start with his tier 1 at 99%. That way Mikey has the option to stay in the tier 1 oblivious status for as long as he wants and maybe get a spicy gen grab or something (I've gotten many when in tier 1), or he can just tap into tier 2 the moment he spots a survivor if he prefers.
    • Remove the stalk cap on survivors, or at the very least DRAMATICALLY increase it. Bubba and Billy are not limited on how many times they can chainsaw down someone. Oni is not limited on how much blood he can collect per match. Extend Mikey the same courtesy with his stalk.
    • When in tier 3 give him faster pallet breaking speed to compliment the extended lunge and the fast vault speed. Tier 3 is Mikey at his most powerful so make him a total beast and have him chew through pallets quicker, too.
  • ouroboros_world
    ouroboros_world Member Posts: 215

    Another please nerf tombstone Myers post lol, you just want to strip any fun for killers, tombstone already got multiple downsides if you actually played killer which I doubt. Instakill is not fair? Just hop in a locker and you won’t be instakilled. Tombstone is a meme, if it was truly unfair people would use it every game which I have never seen.

  • Nathan13
    Nathan13 Member Posts: 6,707

    It's already super difficult to level up to tier 3 with his ultra rare add ons. I've wasted so much time stalking and losing gens. If anything the stalking speed should be increased.

  • NerfedFreddy
    NerfedFreddy Member Posts: 394

    You're also ready to threads "I miss old Myers, he was so fun to play"?

  • pizzaduffyhp90
    pizzaduffyhp90 Member Posts: 901

    I don't think it'll go because it's kinda fitting for Myers character. The Entity sometimes looses control over him so he just ends up killing everyone by his hands instead of sacrificing.

  • Reinami
    Reinami Member Posts: 5,497

    These are dumb excuses every single time and are used for keys too.


    ACHIEVEMENTS CAN BE CHANGED. The only problem is that consoles (specifically Sony i believe) don't like it and per their policy they only allow you to change achievements if it is no longer possible to obtain them. When people talk about achievements being unchangable, they are talking about the incident with the huntress one. The achievement was for this one: https://www.trueachievements.com/a238800/skilled-huntress-achievement Which requires you to down a survivor with a hatched more than 24 meters away.


    The original achievement required 100 downs but on steam it was changed to be much lower. It was a pain in the ass but eventually it got reduced on console too, but it was extremely difficult because sony/microsoft don't like it when you change achievements if they are still possible to do, regardless of how ridiculous the requirement is.

  • Killing_Time
    Killing_Time Member Posts: 894

    They'll "buff" him in some way that's not really relevant to anything all the while nerfing the hell out of his perks

  • lauraa
    lauraa Member Posts: 3,195

    I really hope Judith's Tombstone stays. That's the only one I use, and my prime draw to Myers tbh. I'd like to see Tombstone piece go though.

  • Purgatorian
    Purgatorian Member Posts: 1,146
    edited September 2021

    The only changes I think myers needs is the ability to regain stalk. For every gen completed the survivors have 20% more stalk added. Yes, you can add overstalk for another 100% but if they haven't been stalked at all it will be pointless to have all that once the final gen is done.

    Also to change penalty around so he stalks faster from further away but slower when close by. Whenever did myers stalk Laurie in the movies right up against her face lol.

    This way myers does not run out of being able to gain tier 3 so quickly and stalking is more in line with the movie lore.

  • RAZERbladz13
    RAZERbladz13 Member Posts: 32

    My random Myers buff ideas that no one asked for and probably won't read:

    • Remove mori addons and add something new. The achievement can be (possibly) changed to require ebony mori in place of tombstones
    • Remove/lower Vanity mirror speed debuff. Apply to Tuft of Hair instead. (Maybe lower stalk requirement of ToH to compensate?)
    • 110% in T1. Argument can be made so Scratched Mirror lowers to current speed of 105%
    • As someone mentioned above, give him slightly better everything in T3. Stun duration slightly lowered, kick speed slightly increased, longer lunge remains, faster vault remains, you get the point
    • Group stalk drains equally but at slower individual rate (i.e., 4 survivors = .25 from each). This way you don't full drain someone on accident and regret it later.
    • Tying into stalking, would it be to strong if the remaining stalk points on a survivor are distributed to everyone else if they dc or die?


  • Jarol
    Jarol Member Posts: 1,985

    No, i'm against having his tombstone taken from Michael.

  • Malkhrim
    Malkhrim Member Posts: 985

    Honestly, I don't see why people complain so much about Judith's Tombstone. Tombstone Piece is completely broken, but Judith's Tombstone isn't. If Myers has both iridescent add-ons and survivors actually avoid his stalking, he might take really long to get to Tier III. If he gets to it, then it's a reward for getting so much stalking in first place, and he still has his speed reduced. Against efficient survivors, they might finish all the gens before Michael can reach Tier III. You have better chances using a green add-on instead.

    Even if he pairs Judith's Tombstone with J. Myers Memorial, he will only be able to kill one person after a long time of stalking and then become an m1 killer with reduced speed for the rest of the game. If you want to prevent even the possibility of he getting a kill from that, could just merge both his Iris in a single add-on, but that would make a balance problem on possible pairing with others, like J. Myers Memorial.

  • Nemmy_Wemmy
    Nemmy_Wemmy Member Posts: 800

    You're a long time Mikey main aren't you Dwight? I used to be a Mikey main a long time ago when I first started dbd..I like all your ideas except I think..like oni, he should have a toggle to go tier 2/3 rather than having to 99. Plus give himore deviousness plsssss :(

    And the most important changing needs is... Make his mask actually look like his mask xD

    I'm almost tempted to ask your devotion because I've seen you here for awhile. What build you running on him nowadays? And do you have a secondary main?

    I'm currently into pinhead and clown right now with doc being tempting.

    Bonus: what's your survivor build? I'ma build fanatic...always talking about builds lul..

  • Dwight_Fairfield
    Dwight_Fairfield Member Posts: 7,014

    Yeah I've been a Mikey main for nearly 4 years now. They said all the killers will be getting visual reworks eventually. They did a pretty solid job making Laurie look good. I mean they couldn't make her look just like Jamie Lee Curtis but they came close enough. I have high hopes they'll do Mikey justice.

    I'm devotion 26. My usual build for Mikey is BBQ, Corrupt, Bamboozle and Pop. Sometimes I alter out BBQ for Monitor, Tinkerer, or Infectious. I don't really have a secondary main. I am a devoted Mikey player. I'll play other killers for dailies and stuff, but other than that its always Mikey.

    My survivor build is Bond, We'll Make it, Borrowed Time, and Prove Thyself. I try to be a true Dweet and run perks that help my team.

  • Nemmy_Wemmy
    Nemmy_Wemmy Member Posts: 800

    Same I'm really really hoping that they make the mask actually look like it's supposed to and even better I'd like to see 2018's mask or some others as cosmetics

    Dang on devotion 9 about to hit 10. I'm surprised you've been solely dedicated to Mikey then, I'd figure you'd have two or three killers you rotate between!

    No wglf? Ripppp xD

  • stormy_
    stormy_ Member Posts: 208

    myers easy get 4 k when we face him ... now u need more ? lol

  • Vyne456
    Vyne456 Member Posts: 848

    If it's about that tombstone myers using the kill option. I would be happily using the default dance as my emote for dead by daylight.

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    How i would do the instant mori.

    Start in tier 2 EW

    You can't enter tier 3 EW

    Greatly increases the amount of evil survivors have.

    When a survivor's evil is completly depleted you can mori them by tapping m1 or holding m1 while they are downed (screw you lockers)

    Myers tier up theme at the start of the match let survivors know what's up, no more denying the achievement by hopping in a locker and no more getting insta morried because your teammates fed Myer. You only get moried if you let him stalk to long. It's all on you