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A sample results game on why BHVR is so scared to Buff Killers.
If an Unpopular and probably the most unpicked Killer currently can 4K with no perks and add ons due to the majority of the Survivors player base are a bunch of potatoes. Any sane and competent developer will be careful of bringing buffs to Killers. There are probably a bunch of 4 Man SWFs out there getting absolutely rekt by a Legion.
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One game is not a representative sample nor is Billy a bad killer by any stretch of the imagination. The overheat mechanic doesn't really hurt his general gameplan
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But I’ve been reliably informed that it’s impossible to get any kills at high MMR without four slowdown perks, so you can’t be at high MMR and are therefore low MMR and you just need to git gud or something.
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You could have low mmr as him though, not to mention bad survivors dont do gens so it's an easy win regardless of perks etc.
The fact theres 3 selfcares says enough to me you had a chill as game lol, nothing like a free slowdown through survivor perks on an insta down killer.
In serious note sure theres alot of bad survivors, but let's be real there alot of good ones too and they dont even have to be good as long as they do gens. If you dont slug, or run slowdown and they all do gens when free = loss.
Once I found out downing in 10-20seconds max per chase lost me a game by not slugging and no gen defense I quickly ran gen defense. We cant balance for players that dont do the only objective or understand the game
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1 game is enough to confirm your theory? Lol.
You got 3 Self Care gamers (notorious for being less skilled) and an Adept Adam who doesn’t even have all his perks tier 3.
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As someone explained to me before, your rank has nothing to do with your MMR. If u meet 4 rank1 players it doesn't mean they are incredibly good. But i doubt u will win with 4K against multiple rank1 players in a row.
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As you balance for high tiers the "worse" players will initially lose more yes. However then their MMR will lower until they are back winning/losing the exact averages they were before. So balancing from the top down would in the end only improve the game for high ranks and not actually hurt the lower players overall.
All balancing for high ranks would do is essentially change the MMR ranking next to peoples names (which they can't even see anyway) but improve the balance for the high ranks.
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There is a hole in that logic. Its that many characters end up being "newbie" stompers at lesser-levels despite the fact that killer player is not very good at that killer even if the killer is strong.
Take for example Spirit, Spirit dominates 95% of the survivor player-base and only really loses to the very very top percentage of survivors that are truly outstanding at the game. A common complaint about spirit is that stand-still mindgame is unfair despite fact that spirit's crystals light up on her legs and that there is reset animation to tell when she is phasing. You will have low-level spirits that are not very good at phasewalk use stand-still mindgame when they just used 80% of their phase and still catch survivors that could not put 2 and 2 together that phase walk is on cooldown.
Billy could be another example. Before MMR, Its very unlikely that many players faced good billy that used double charge reduction add-ons and that could curve any loop. Even at low-level, a not very good billy vs not very good survivor could land instant downs out of position. To a new player, being constantly instant down by billy chainsaw was probably to unfair despite the fact that if the survivor was better, he would utilize the loops/windows to avoid getting instant down by his chainsaw.
Moral of the story is that for a killer to be good vs high-level, they have stomp all lower brackets first to start competing vs good survivor players. Often when a killer is innately strong, the killer has trick-down effect on lower-levels because of how strong their base-kit+add-ons even in the hands of an inexperienced killer.
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I wouldn't call Billy the most unpopular/unpicked killer tbh
That crown goes to Twins
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I've made a 4k 24k BP game and the trial was... absolutely disguting. I am not proud of it, it's like a waste of time... A 'bad map' for HillBilly, some short & absurd chases (<10secs), no gen was done, the highiest score from these surv was 10k (even including some secure unhooks I guess), the lowiest was 6k bc P1-P3 on the hook. Wow, I have absolutely learnt anything & I don't improve myself with this kind of trial !
So now, can you conclude something about the SBMM or can you guess if they were a 4-man SWF ? Absolute nonsense... Sometimes we are steady & ready, sometimes we aren't & we fail...
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I lost a game as killer/survivor, so killer/survivor mus be buffed. What a perverted logic.
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Ah yes a sample size of 1... Call the CEO of BHVR, hes gonna want to see this!
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You do remember that rank color is not an indication of skill anymore but just games played now right?
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Do you genuinely need validation this badly?
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I've 4k with clown with only forced penance, so does that mean that clown is OP and needs a nerf? Or that the players played bad?
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This post cracks me up considering I changed my name to Lightborn Legion last night, and dunked on survivors 4 games in a row with only Lightborn. The 5th game I played well until I over-committed to a chase I thought I could end quick; Dead Hard saved the day and it gave the Survivors enough momentum swing to all escape unscathed.
I recently made a post about how survivor is so easy that people should be playing perkless, and it raised enough arms that I felt compelled to run killer perkless as well.
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Context, wins based on dumb mistakes don't negate the need for balance.
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I was told yesterday that my MMR must be zero and I'm playing against bots because I can usually do well with Legion and Pig, lmao. I really don't understand some people on here.
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Ok and? Want me to post a 0k as nurse against 4 perkless addonless survivors?
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My favorite part is how nobody knows what their MMR is. Yet somehow every killer insists they are high MMR.
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That tally screen is very common. Survivor is hard. Either killer has to make a lot of mistakes or all 4 survivors player focused and perfectly.
And this doesn't consider losing when is not a survivor mistake (ie. hit through a window or when hit validation doesn't work)
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