How to handle with camping
When the killer is in a certain range the entity progress is interrupted (progress bar stands still). Maybe it could be a perk for survivors
Perk: Lost connection
While the killer is near the hooked survivor the connection to the entity is interrupted. When the killer is in a range of (8m/10m/12m) the entity progress stands still.
What's your opinion?
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Something similar was tried in the first PTB and abused by Survivors. This is a suggestion that has come up often since the game was released. I'd say at least once a week, a thread like this pops up.
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The problem with camping isn't that the killer does it.
It's that the killer (scenario dependent) should be doing it.
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Mmh ok
Or maybe the progress is slowed down by (30%/40%/50%) in a range of (8/10/12m). This would be fair for both sides0 -
@Neaisnotakiller said:
Mmh ok
Or maybe the progress is slowed down by (30%/40%/50%) in a range of (8/10/12m). This would be fair for both sidesIt's the same principle, so no.
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The second idea is okay as long as a survivor isn't within a larger radius.1
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@brokedownpalace said:
The second idea is okay as long as a survivor isn't within a larger radius.It's the same as the first idea, only it slows down instead of completely stopping. At tier 3, it'd slow down progression to a full four minutes. That's two solid minutes of tapping the space bar.
Punishing the Killer doesn't work, period. If punishment doesn't work with Survivors, why is everyone so convinced it'll work with Killers?4 -
You want to handle camping? Stop trying to punish campers with a perk or mechanic, stop rewarding them by rushing the hook, and start using the actual, built-in counter: generators. There is no reason why a camper should get more than one kill, unless the Survivors fed him.
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Best thing you can do is to run Kindred and pray for having good teammates.
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@Orion said:
You want to handle camping? Stop trying to punish campers with a perk or mechanic, stop rewarding them by rushing the hook, and start using the actual, built-in counter: generators. There is no reason why a camper should get more than one kill, unless the Survivors fed him.Pretty much this, if a killer is camping just do gens. Wasting time running around the hook only rewards the killer camping.
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When I play as killer I never camp. Even when the exit gates are open I patrouling in a bigger range of 36m or more. I know it is dumb but I want to give survivors still a little chance. I mean if you camp you still get the kill. It just lasts longer.1
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@Neaisnotakiller said:
When I play as killer I never camp. Even when the exit gates are open I patrouling in a bigger range of 36m or more. I know it is dumb but I want to give survivors still a little chance. I mean if you camp you still get the kill. It just lasts longer.They had plenty of chances. They had the chance to stealth, had the chance to win the chase (twice; it takes two hits to put them down), had the chance to be rescued by their teammates, and had the chance to wiggle free. Are you saying they magically appeared on the hook? Or are you saying that "having a chance" means that it must always result in success?
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It's not, because I added my own caveat. Also, tapping X can easily be removed so that's a very weak argument. I'm not really interested in debating with you, though, because we're not going to come to any sort of agreement.Orion said:@brokedownpalace said:
The second idea is okay as long as a survivor isn't within a larger radius.It's the same as the first idea, only it slows down instead of completely stopping. At tier 3, it'd slow down progression to a full four minutes. That's two solid minutes of tapping the space bar.
Punishing the Killer doesn't work, period. If punishment doesn't work with Survivors, why is everyone so convinced it'll work with Killers?0 -
@brokedownpalace said:
It's not, because I added my own caveat. Also, tapping X can easily be removed so that's a very weak argument. I'm not really interested in debating with you, though, because we're not going to come to any sort of agreement.Can you at least explain why you believe punishment works for the Killer when it doesn't work for the Survivors?
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No I just want to say that camping is boring for me as killer. It's not in my nature to be so toxic. Tunnel...Ok, prevent ds by letting the survivor fall down...Ok. But if you camp the survivor has no chance to escape. It's my opinion about that. I mean if you camp it's ok, it's your decision. If the survivors are to dumb to make gens and teabagg the killer instead of this it's not the killers fault1
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lol here we go with the killers who want to reward other killers for camping, performing Class A Mental Gymnastics to blame the survivor for the killer standing 2 feet away from the hooked survivor.
Beautiful.4 -
@Neaisnotakiller said:
No I just want to say that camping is boring for me as killer. It's not in my nature to be so toxic. Tunnel...Ok, prevent ds by letting the survivor fall down...Ok. But if you camp the survivor has no chance to escape. It's my opinion about that. I mean if you camp it's ok, it's your decision. If the survivors are to dumb to make gens and teabagg the killer instead of this it's not the killers faultThe Survivor can still escape, even while being camped, and they had plenty of chances to escape beforehand. "Chance" is not "certainty". There's a chance to get heads on a coin flip; that doesn't mean you're guaranteed to never get tails.
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@ReneAensland said:
lol here we go with the killers who want to reward other killers for camping, performing Class A Mental Gymnastics to blame the survivor for the killer standing 2 feet away from the hooked survivor.
Beautiful.When they follow me to the hook, yes, I blame them.
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If a Killer camps, that is because Survivors enjoy abusing the mechanics that the game offers and yes, a Killer should not camp the hooked Survivor, although Survivors have a lot of options to make the Killer be stun. Moreover, I mainly use a Killer and I naturally do not camp ,since I want to go find other Survivors and stop them, therefore the only time I would camp a Survivor is when all Generators are done and I make sure to Sacrifice that Survivor. Above all, the key to resolve this solution is for Survivor players to stop abusing the mechanics that are offered and if that is done, the Killer players can stop too.
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@Orion said:
@ReneAensland said:
lol here we go with the killers who want to reward other killers for camping, performing Class A Mental Gymnastics to blame the survivor for the killer standing 2 feet away from the hooked survivor.
Beautiful.When they follow me to the hook, yes, I blame them.
Well yeah, I doubt anyone will argue with you there.
But when you have killers like thisYou cannot.
Cannot defend our condone this gameplay.0 -
@ReneAensland said:
You cannot.
Cannot defend our condone this gameplay.Easy, block the killer with MLGA
here is download link
its officially allowed in DBD since the devs said its up to EAC, and EAC confirms its okay and they won't ban people for it
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@Someissues said:
@ReneAensland said:
You cannot.
Cannot defend our condone this gameplay.Easy, block the killer with MLGA
here is download link
https://github.com/PsiLupan/MakeLobbiesGreatAgain
its officially allowed in DBD since the devs said its up to EAC, and EAC confirms its okay and they won't ban people for it
Console.
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You do gens. Simple. People act like they get camped every f——-ucking Match. Just take the loss And move on.2
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@ReneAensland said:
@Orion said:
@ReneAensland said:
lol here we go with the killers who want to reward other killers for camping, performing Class A Mental Gymnastics to blame the survivor for the killer standing 2 feet away from the hooked survivor.
Beautiful.When they follow me to the hook, yes, I blame them.
Well yeah, I doubt anyone will argue with you there.
But when you have killers like thisYou cannot.
Cannot defend our condone this gameplay.Sure I can. If the killer really wants to throw that bad then the survivors should take advantage and do generators. You can do at least 3 generators even 4 if the team is fast enough, and assuming the killer chased you for enough time to complete 1 generator the other 3 survivor are pretty much safe to escape (unless the killer has something like NOED but even then there is no guarantee they will catch anyone else)
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@ReneAensland said:
@Orion said:
@ReneAensland said:
lol here we go with the killers who want to reward other killers for camping, performing Class A Mental Gymnastics to blame the survivor for the killer standing 2 feet away from the hooked survivor.
Beautiful.When they follow me to the hook, yes, I blame them.
Well yeah, I doubt anyone will argue with you there.
But when you have killers like thisYou cannot.
Cannot defend our condone this gameplay.Just equip BT and go for the yolo safe.
Or you just do gens and finish the game.No matter what, the killer surenders the game by "facecamping" like this
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I love your username lol.
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#freenea
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They should try it in the next ptb
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How about reverting the timer? Like, if the killer camps the timer goes normally down and if he leaves he gets rewarded by the timer going faster. Was that ever tested? Couldn't think about a way the killer or survivors could abuse thatOrion said:@Neaisnotakiller said:
Mmh ok
Or maybe the progress is slowed down by (30%/40%/50%) in a range of (8/10/12m). This would be fair for both sidesIt's the same principle, so no.
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@DwightsLifeMatters said:
How about reverting the timer? Like, if the killer camps the timer goes normally down and if he leaves he gets rewarded by the timer going faster. Was that ever tested? Couldn't think about a way the killer or survivors could abuse thatI suggested such a thing and received heavy backlash. The complaints were mostly focused around the existence of fast Killers and "camping from a distance" (lulwut).
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ReneAensland said:
@Orion said:
@ReneAensland said:
lol here we go with the killers who want to reward other killers for camping, performing Class A Mental Gymnastics to blame the survivor for the killer standing 2 feet away from the hooked survivor.
Beautiful.When they follow me to the hook, yes, I blame them.
Well yeah, I doubt anyone will argue with you there.
But when you have killers like this
You cannot.
Cannot defend our condone this gameplay.
it almost looks like...trolling.0 -
Points to the very well tended hooks in the basement with entity claws at the ready And a alter down there (making a joke on a perk here) use thatDwightsLifeMatters said:
How about reverting the timer? Like, if the killer camps the timer goes normally down and if he leaves he gets rewarded by the timer going faster. Was that ever tested? Couldn't think about a way the killer or survivors could abuse thatOrion said:@Neaisnotakiller said:
Mmh ok
Or maybe the progress is slowed down by (30%/40%/50%) in a range of (8/10/12m). This would be fair for both sidesIt's the same principle, so no.
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Its really easy. If someone is standing in front of a hook, go do the gens. Sure one dies, and that sucks, but that one person costs the killer a pip, and lets everyone else get 1-2 pips for free. And yea, that one person doesn't get to play the game anymore, but they got 2 play, failed 2 chases, and still gave their team the game by occupying the killer.
As a killer, if I see 1-2 other survivors trying to unhook them, you're right that I'm gonna stand there at the hook. Every second that the 3 survivors waste trying to unhook from a camping killer just rewards the killer that much more.
Think about it like this: What is the objective of each player in the game?
Survivors: Do gens, power exit gates, escape
Killers: KillIf the Killer is camping a kill, and the survivors are hovering around the hook instead of doing gens, then the killer is being efficient. He's completing his objective while stopping the other team from doing theirs. He can only stop you if you play his game. Don't. Do your gens, and survive.
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towhead said:ReneAensland said:
@Orion said:
@ReneAensland said:
lol here we go with the killers who want to reward other killers for camping, performing Class A Mental Gymnastics to blame the survivor for the killer standing 2 feet away from the hooked survivor.
Beautiful.When they follow me to the hook, yes, I blame them.
Well yeah, I doubt anyone will argue with you there.
But when you have killers like thisYou cannot.
Cannot defend our condone this gameplay.
it almost looks like...trolling.
lol, who am i trying to kid? we all know such things don't exist or there would be a reason to leave a match early. simply not real.0 -
If I am.going to camp, i am going to camp regardless of consequences.
How about punishing the survivor's for teabagging?
Same thing.
Just play the game
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Sometimes you can't punish camping all by yourself, have you tried doing all 5 generators yourself? This is a asymmetrical horror game which requires teamwork after all so doing something that is meant for 4 survivors is gonna be extremely difficult for a single survivor. There has been times where I been the only survivor doing generators while my entire team feeds the camping Leather Face.Orion said:You want to handle camping? Stop trying to punish campers with a perk or mechanic, stop rewarding them by rushing the hook, and start using the actual, built-in counter: generators. There is no reason why a camper should get more than one kill, unless the Survivors fed him.
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Attackfrog said:
If I am.going to camp, i am going to camp regardless of consequences.
How about punishing the survivor's for teabagging?
Same thing.
Just play the game
same thing only teabagging doesn't force a loss.0 -
Only really works with SWF. If you’re playing with randoms, most randoms won’t appreciate that you’re doing gens even if the Killer is clearly camping. The hooked survivor will return the favor by going into struggle and die immediately.GMAK said:@Orion said:
You want to handle camping? Stop trying to punish campers with a perk or mechanic, stop rewarding them by rushing the hook, and start using the actual, built-in counter: generators. There is no reason why a camper should get more than one kill, unless the Survivors fed him.Pretty much this, if a killer is camping just do gens. Wasting time running around the hook only rewards the killer camping.
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https://i.giphy.com/media/bge3Lqq8MSwb6/giphy.mp4
How many time is this propostition going to get made?
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Have you tried to not camp the killer?
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@Orion said:
Something similar was tried in the first PTB and abused by Survivors. This is a suggestion that has come up often since the game was released. I'd say at least once a week, a thread like this pops up.how often do you have to write this comment? xD
like, you gotta be having a Draft or something similar saved somewhere that you just copy and pase into posts like this xD
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@Nickenzie said:
Sometimes you can't punish camping all by yourself, have you tried doing all 5 generators yourself? This is a asymmetrical horror game which requires teamwork after all so doing something that is meant for 4 survivors is gonna be extremely difficult for a single survivor. There has been times where I been the only survivor doing generators while my entire team feeds the camping Leather Face.I get that, and it sucks, but it's not the Killer's fault. Put the blame where it is and start punishing Survivors who reward camping instead of Killers who take advantage of it.
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I understand a SWF group, but I'm also usually solo.
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HOW TO HANDLE WITH CAMPING
My linguistics teacher one told me that when I see a tautology, I'd have to point one out;
- How to cope with campers.
- How to handle camping.
Not how to handle with camping! Sacré bleu.
I did my part.
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@AlwaysInAGoodShape said:
HOW TO HANDLE WITH CAMPING
My linguistics teacher one told me that when I see a tautology, I'd have to point one out;
- How to cope with campers.
- How to handle camping.
Not how to handle with camping! Sacré bleu.
I did my part.
I don't think you meant to say "tautology".
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I try my best to punish camping but it's difficult. Usually I accept my loss and move on, perhaps get better teammates next time.Orion said:@Nickenzie said:
Sometimes you can't punish camping all by yourself, have you tried doing all 5 generators yourself? This is a asymmetrical horror game which requires teamwork after all so doing something that is meant for 4 survivors is gonna be extremely difficult for a single survivor. There has been times where I been the only survivor doing generators while my entire team feeds the camping Leather Face.I get that, and it sucks, but it's not the Killer's fault. Put the blame where it is and start punishing Survivors who reward camping instead of Killers who take advantage of it.
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