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Bitter murmer needs a QoL buff

It should additionally remove the bubble of finished gens. That's the only thing I want to see happening with this perk rn

Comments

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,873

    Yeah it'd make it more helpful.

  • ModernFable
    ModernFable Member Posts: 836
    I want the bubble duration for Generators and Hooks to be much shorter in general.
  • nikodelpino
    nikodelpino Member Posts: 27

    @ModernFable said:
    I want the bubble duration for Generators and Hooks to be much shorter in general.

    I want the bubble to be completely removed for both sides honestly.

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,965

    @nikodelpino said:

    @ModernFable said:
    I want the bubble duration for Generators and Hooks to be much shorter in general.

    I want the bubble to be completely removed for both sides honestly.

    I'll +1 this. I don't like my vision obscured.

  • DwightsLifeMatters
    DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649
    @not_Queen can u bring up this idea to the balance team please?
  • Shadoureon
    Shadoureon Member Posts: 493

    No one likes these bubbles.
    No one likes direct links to peoples profiles
    No one likes how HEX: Huntress Lullaby beeing shown before someone is hooked.

    Literally no one but the devs dont give a #########. They refuse to change the obvious things.

  • ReneAensland
    ReneAensland Member Posts: 838

    That pointless bubble.

  • DwightsLifeMatters
    DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649

    That pointless bubble.

    More annoying than helpful for both sides isn't it?
  • wladimiiir
    wladimiiir Member Posts: 142
    After I started using it I think it's the best perk there is. But to be honest I have never noticed that the bubble would bother me. The most important thing is which way survivors are running not on which side of generator they crouch, so I think the perk is completely fine :)
  • ReneAensland
    ReneAensland Member Posts: 838

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    ReneAensland said:

    That pointless bubble.

    More annoying than helpful for both sides isn't it?

    I'm typically tailing the killer when he's carrying a survivor, I can see where he's going to hook him, then that stupid bubble prevents me from seeing where the kicker went....and it lasts so long.

  • DwightsLifeMatters
    DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649
    After I started using it I think it's the best perk there is. But to be honest I have never noticed that the bubble would bother me. The most important thing is which way survivors are running not on which side of generator they crouch, so I think the perk is completely fine :)
    And how u get the information how many survivors are around the done gen if they stay in the bubble area? Exactly, 0 information 
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Shadoureon said:
    No one likes these bubbles.
    No one likes direct links to peoples profiles
    No one likes how HEX: Huntress Lullaby beeing shown before someone is hooked.

    Literally no one but the devs dont give a #########. They refuse to change the obvious things.

    Yes the devs obviously don't care.

    Killer buffs last 6+ months

    Nerfs to survivors like Exhaustion which was more than what was asked for.

    Nerfs to healing.

    Removal of some window and pallets and looping spots.

    More even distribution of hooks with a guaranteed minimum.

    Tweaking of jungle gyms aka cow trees and other looping spots so that they're less safe.

    Mothers Pantry and Backwater swamp overall being made both smaller and the move of Shrimp Boat.

    Reworks of both Wraith and Hag and Trapper.

    Flashlight fix so it's hard to stun with the pickup animation being made quicker.

    The removal of some of the grass/weeds on BackWater Swamp tiles.

    Maps being made lighter so it's easier for killer to see.

    Removal of Moon offerings

    etc.

    Well that sure looks like they give a sh*t, it sure looks like they changed a bunch of things oh and this was after community feedback.

    This brings to mind an old saying about mouth and foot in the same sentence.

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    It should additionally remove the bubble of finished gens. That's the only thing I want to see happening with this perk rn
    This or increase the aura reading duration to compensate the time that your vision was obscured.
  • se05239
    se05239 Member Posts: 3,919

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    @not_Queen can u bring up this idea to the balance team please?

    Aren't they all on holiday vacation right now?

  • wladimiiir
    wladimiiir Member Posts: 142
    After I started using it I think it's the best perk there is. But to be honest I have never noticed that the bubble would bother me. The most important thing is which way survivors are running not on which side of generator they crouch, so I think the perk is completely fine :)
    And how u get the information how many survivors are around the done gen if they stay in the bubble area? Exactly, 0 information 
    Tell me how many survivors in the current meta expect that you will be running Bitter Murmur and stay near the generator? From my experience as rank 1 killer and rank 1 survivor it's around 1/20 which I have noticed, as you still can see them even if it's harder and then let's say another 1/30 which I missed. So I'm still fine with that :)
  • PolarBear
    PolarBear Member Posts: 1,899

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    wladimiiir said:

    After I started using it I think it's the best perk there is. But to be honest I have never noticed that the bubble would bother me. The most important thing is which way survivors are running not on which side of generator they crouch, so I think the perk is completely fine :)

    And how u get the information how many survivors are around the done gen if they stay in the bubble area? Exactly, 0 information 

    You can see auras through the bubbles so yes you would get the information :)

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647

    BM is beautiful how it is... No buffs needed!

  • DwightsLifeMatters
    DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649
    After I started using it I think it's the best perk there is. But to be honest I have never noticed that the bubble would bother me. The most important thing is which way survivors are running not on which side of generator they crouch, so I think the perk is completely fine :)
    And how u get the information how many survivors are around the done gen if they stay in the bubble area? Exactly, 0 information 
    Tell me how many survivors in the current meta expect that you will be running Bitter Murmur and stay near the generator? From my experience as rank 1 killer and rank 1 survivor it's around 1/20 which I have noticed, as you still can see them even if it's harder and then let's say another 1/30 which I missed. So I'm still fine with that :)
    sometimes I see a "silhouette" of survivor who try to counter bitter murmer. Optimal survivors always do that, I do that aswell. For me bitter murmer is something like BBQ: I always expect that every killer runs it
  • DwightsLifeMatters
    DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649
    Bravo0413 said:

    BM is beautiful how it is... No buffs needed!

    Reeee, I just shout out my opinion without any reasoning, reeeee
  • Shadoureon
    Shadoureon Member Posts: 493

    @powerbats said:

    @Shadoureon said:
    No one likes these bubbles.
    No one likes direct links to peoples profiles
    No one likes how HEX: Huntress Lullaby beeing shown before someone is hooked.

    Literally no one but the devs dont give a #########. They refuse to change the obvious things.

    Yes the devs obviously don't care.

    Killer buffs last 6+ months

    Nerfs to survivors like Exhaustion which was more than what was asked for.

    Nerfs to healing.

    Removal of some window and pallets and looping spots.

    More even distribution of hooks with a guaranteed minimum.

    Tweaking of jungle gyms aka cow trees and other looping spots so that they're less safe.

    Mothers Pantry and Backwater swamp overall being made both smaller and the move of Shrimp Boat.

    Reworks of both Wraith and Hag and Trapper.

    Flashlight fix so it's hard to stun with the pickup animation being made quicker.

    The removal of some of the grass/weeds on BackWater Swamp tiles.

    Maps being made lighter so it's easier for killer to see.

    Removal of Moon offerings

    etc.

    Well that sure looks like they give a sh*t, it sure looks like they changed a bunch of things oh and this was after community feedback.

    This brings to mind an old saying about mouth and foot in the same sentence.

    Oh please, The 3 things I mentioned where from day 1 of the game or day 1 the HEX perk got released. Please if you are going to make a full list of everything they changed yeah then it makes it look dumb but you act as if devs never chance according to playerbase demands and now BHVR suddenly do. Them changing things to make the game better is nothing new. The 3 things I posted are simple common sense and should have been like that from the start instead of something that ended up beeing a design flaw like jungle gyms and infinites. Also the removal of Moon offerings has nothing to do with playerbase demands but BHVR not wanting to fix the bugs it caused after indoor maps were released. Thos offerings were fine untill Lery's and Game were released and now we no longer can use them because they refuse to fix the bug instead.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Shadoureon said:

    Oh please, The 3 things I mentioned where from day 1 of the game or day 1 the HEX perk got released. Please if you are going to make a full list of everything they changed yeah then it makes it look dumb but you act as if devs never chance according to playerbase demands and now BHVR suddenly do. Them changing things to make the game better is nothing new. The 3 things I posted are simple common sense and should have been like that from the start instead of something that ended up beeing a design flaw like jungle gyms and infinites. Also the removal of Moon offerings has nothing to do with playerbase demands but BHVR not wanting to fix the bugs it caused after indoor maps were released. Thos offerings were fine untill Lery's and Game were released and now we no longer can use them because they refuse to fix the bug instead.

    So you can't debate so you deflect and say oh they did this in year one but go ahead and ignore all the positive stuff they've done in year 2.

    Also Killers have been on the forums complaining about moon offerings for quite some time so to say they weren't responding to player feedback is false.

    You can't ignore all the positive stuff they've done this year just to focus only on the bad stuff in year one to make your argument look better. Because if we go by actual facts not your personal and highly false biased narrative.

    This is what just happened to your argument after it took a leap of faith off the balcony of nonsense.

  • DwightsLifeMatters
    DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649
    Thaznar said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    It should additionally remove the bubble of finished gens. That's the only thing I want to see happening with this perk rn

    As much as I hate the "bubble" myself it is here to stay, the devs confirmed it a couple of livestreams ago. It was a design choice and it will not be removed as it gives an indication where the survivor is hooked and which gen is done.

    What? U know that the hook aura can been seen right? And u know that the gen area turns yellow if done right? There is no benefit for each side for that bubblr
  • ReneAensland
    ReneAensland Member Posts: 838

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Thaznar said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:

    It should additionally remove the bubble of finished gens. That's the only thing I want to see happening with this perk rn

    As much as I hate the "bubble" myself it is here to stay, the devs confirmed it a couple of livestreams ago. It was a design choice and it will not be removed as it gives an indication where the survivor is hooked and which gen is done.

    What? U know that the hook aura can been seen right? And u know that the gen area turns yellow if done right? There is no benefit for each side for that bubblr

    lol devs really think their community is ######### #########.