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Even More Confused About Killer SBMM/MMR Now...

StarLost
StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

So, apparently 1 kill is considered a 'win' and will increase my MMR. However, survivors escaping will lower my MMR?

Does this mean that a single kill is considered a 'win state' for the killer, resulting in a net MMR gain, or a loss, resulting in a net MMR decrease?

Any clarification would be appreciated.

Comments

  • 90bubbel
    90bubbel Member Posts: 97

    i would assume loss, from my understanding its

    1 kill + mmr

    1 escape -mmr

    so if you kill one and 3 escape you would get more - than +

  • MeltingPenguins
    MeltingPenguins Member Posts: 3,742
    edited October 2021

    So, yeah... if you play as scummy as possible and slug, tunnel and camp for the 4k the game will consider you more skilled than someone getting in 10-11 hooks without tunneling camping or slugging and lets the last person go.

  • Hex_Llama
    Hex_Llama Member Posts: 1,838

    Another way to think of it would be that, if you play as scummy as possible, the system will consider you a more difficult opponent, and match you with stronger survivors who might be harder to railroad.

  • Crowman
    Crowman Member Posts: 9,517

    From how the devs worded it, the killer is essentially playing 4 games at once. Each survivor the killer kills gives him mmr increase with the first survivor killed giving the most, but each survivor that leaves via exit gate will decrease his mmr.

    So a 1K with 3 survivors leaving via exit gate will still cause the killer to lose MMR, but less than if all 4 escaped.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

    This is fair.

    Ah, yeah. It is pretty ambiguous and confusing. I'd really like to know what the specific numbers are, even if my own MMR is hidden.

  • Crowman
    Crowman Member Posts: 9,517

    I assume the number of mmr points gained or loss is also related to the difference in mmr scores. For example you would get more killing a survivor with a higher mmr than you vs killing a survivor with a lower mmr than you.

    So there would be no way for the devs to really disclose how much a killer gains or loses in a match based on how many survivors they killed.

  • ShinobuSK
    ShinobuSK Member Posts: 5,279

    Well gaining MMR is actual punishment for tunneling and camping now.

    However its still ridiculous to hear devs say it, its basically worse system than we had before

  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,167

    Pretty simple

    Kill 2 to break even, more or less equals a rating change

  • ThiccBudhha
    ThiccBudhha Member Posts: 6,987

    So only getting 1 kill is technically a reward for my facecamping. The survivors are bagging, but really, who is winning?

  • gilgamer
    gilgamer Member Posts: 2,209

    I think I can clear some things up for you. IT SUCKS. Real talk though is that from what I can tell is 1 kill is -mmr 2 kills is a draw and 3 or 4 kills is +mmr. Which is a dumb system but whatever.

  • Sonzaishinai
    Sonzaishinai Member Posts: 7,976

    Bassically from what i understand it it's each kill give you mmr, each escape through the gates loses you mmr

    The first kill is worth the most points and then it lowers for each kill after as your job is easier the less survivors their are.

    I assume the escapes work the same way. You'll lose a lot more mmr by one 4man escape then by two 2man escapes. Probably

    Hatch escapes are straight zero mmr

  • GoodBoyKaru
    GoodBoyKaru Member Posts: 22,809

    Okay so. A kill is considered a win for the killer, and an escape is considered a loss for the survivor.

    What's important to factor in is that the system makes the killer play 4 different games at the same time, all of which are 1v1 vs every member of the survivor team.

    Killing 1 survivor is a win for that specific 1v1, however also means you've lost 3 of the 1v1s, meaning that is a net loss (because 3 > 1).