Judiths Tombstone is ridiculous

How the heck is this fun for anyone but the killer? Its basically a free win game for Michael. I’d be ok with this if survivors had anything close. How about a suit of impenetrable armor ultrarare? One game where the survivor is unkillable. Or to be fair, one game where all 4 survivors are unkillable? What? The killer would leave because “whats the point? Its an unwinnable waste of time?” Exactly.

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  • Sleephartha
    Sleephartha Member Posts: 242

    Ive played against it at level 1 twice this weekend. A couple gens get done but once 1 survivor is dead getting 4 gens done is a tall order. All he does is grab u and youre dead. I mean come on. Where the hell is the balance there? Seriously. Give survivors an ultra rare perk like that that makes us invincible. Lets see how the killers react.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 14,472

    If your losing to a tombstone at all then I'm sorry but either you or your team is just bad. At rank 1 they are generally lucky if they even get 1 person...IF that.

  • Theluckyboi
    Theluckyboi Member Posts: 1,113
    edited December 2018

    Have you at least played with it? unless you know were all the survivors are you are going to have a very bad time, the amount of evil required to get to evil within III is annoying, and the penalty to movement speed is terrible as well.

  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832

    @Sleephartha said:
    Ive played against it at level 1 twice this weekend. A couple gens get done but once 1 survivor is dead getting 4 gens done is a tall order. All he does is grab u and youre dead. I mean come on. Where the hell is the balance there? Seriously. Give survivors an ultra rare perk like that that makes us invincible. Lets see how the killers react.

    the balance is he's very slow
    it needs to be paired with another UR to be effective
    it takes a very long time to reach EW3

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,874

    @Sleephartha said:
    Ive played against it at level 1 twice this weekend. A couple gens get done but once 1 survivor is dead getting 4 gens done is a tall order. All he does is grab u and youre dead. I mean come on. Where the hell is the balance there? Seriously. Give survivors an ultra rare perk like that that makes us invincible. Lets see how the killers react.

    The balance is in the fact that he is pretty dang slow and the time it takes to reach Lvl 3 EW is tremendously increased, so it's easier to hide from his line of sight to make Lvl 3 much harder to reach.

  • BDS22
    BDS22 Member Posts: 146
    I'd say Myers with unlimited tier 3 is worse than the tombstomb. 
  • DexyIV
    DexyIV Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 514

    While he's sitting there stalking you, he's not hitting you or hooking you, or doing anything that killers would normally do. Not to mention he moves slower, so it forces him to use pwyf, and may not even get any stacks until later. Genrush him. If he gets to that point, jump in lockers. Looping is still an option since he'll likely be slower than usual.

  • PhantomMask20763
    PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176
    Well, it's very slow and it takes forever to charge it up. There is counter play and you can still escape and if he doesn't have the infinite tier 3 then you can still outrun ew 3 timer. What you are proposing about giving something to survivors to make them unkillable has no counter play because even if you made them as slow as nurse they cant die so theres no point in chasing and you can screw up as much as you want without punishment 
  • My_Dude
    My_Dude Member Posts: 132

    Think of how salty OP would be vs Scratched Mirror Myers on The Game.

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    If you let tombstone Myers feed on you and get to tier 3, you deserve to die

  • Dwight_Fairfield
    Dwight_Fairfield Member Posts: 7,590
    edited December 2018

    As a Myers main I don't find tombstone fun. It takes FOREVER to get to evil within 3. Its not fun to insta kill everyone once you find them. I have only ever used tombstone to get my Evil Incarnate achievement.

    Tuft of hair is more fun to use because at least you're not abruptly ending every survivor as soon as you find them.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    Myers has a lot of broken add-ons.

    I don't get how so many people can cry about Prayer Beads which aren't even that powerful yet be fine with all this chumps broken add ons.
  • redsopine01
    redsopine01 Member Posts: 1,269
    Really tombstone is a ebony but harder to get and it all depends on rng if you get the game or lerys Michel is screwed till end game unless he has deer nurses and triple slugs with dying light to kill the obsession I know because I almost did not get it on the same took me 4 gens to get it and kill the obsession tbh if a Dwight was not dumb to hide she's I got him once before I would have not got it it's all about map if it works or is a bist and you need to run infi ew3 so you can get them and not be looped for it
  • ItsYourBoyGuzma
    ItsYourBoyGuzma Member Posts: 797
    edited December 2018

    If you let tombstone Myers feed on you and get to tier 3, you deserve to die

    @OP .Just dodge his field of view 4HEAD
  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,874
    edited December 2018
    Myers has a lot of broken add-ons.

    I don't get how so many people can cry about Prayer Beads which aren't even that powerful yet be fine with all this chumps broken add ons.
    Does he?  I don't actually know, but if I had to guess, the only ones to which one would probably have that accusation thrown are Fragrant Tuft of Hair and Tombstone Piece.  Maybe the one that lets you see the aura of someone if you Stalk them for more than a second?
  • AgentApple50
    AgentApple50 Member Posts: 40

    You can hide in a locker to prevent dying.

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,872

    @AgentApple50 said:
    You can hide in a locker to prevent dying.

    That or loop his balls clean.

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,222

    Fragrant Tuft of Hair is WAY more powerful. Borderline overpowered.

  • lasombra1979
    lasombra1979 Member Posts: 1,140

    Fragrant Tuft of Hair is more powerful and way more useful than Judith's Tombstone. I have like 15 sitting on Myers and do not touch them. The impact on MS is not worth it.

  • Kebek
    Kebek Member Posts: 3,676

    Lol be carefull what you wish for OK. Imagine if all of you are unkillable but you can still be hooked. So you'll hang there foreven until you dc since killer can't do anything more to kill you and you are immobilized. Sounds fun, really.

    Also have you ever heard about lockers ? They make you pretty unkillable you know.
    How about thinking before you complain like a little entiteled survivor who is too busy whining insted of thinking.

  • Dwight_Confusion
    Dwight_Confusion Member Posts: 1,649

    Myers' add ons are perfectly balanced.

    Stop crying.

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688

    Myers' add ons are perfectly balanced.

    Stop crying.

    This is where I would use the LOL button.
  • OGlilSPOOK20
    OGlilSPOOK20 Member Posts: 716

    How the heck is this fun for anyone but the killer? Its basically a free win game for Michael. I’d be ok with this if survivors had anything close. How about a suit of impenetrable armor ultrarare? One game where the survivor is unkillable. Or to be fair, one game where all 4 survivors are unkillable? What? The killer would leave because “whats the point? Its an unwinnable waste of time?” Exactly.

    Dude it takes forever for Myers to get to T3 to even use Tombstone! If he's chasing just one survivor and constantly stalking you (which he can't get the full stalk off of just 1 survivor) you as the survivor just have to run him around and give your teammates time to do the gens before he can actually get it off. He's slow in T1 so you can out run him anyway. Plus once he is done stalking you he'll just leave and find another to stalk giving you a chance to go work on gens too. Biggest way to avoid being killed by a Tombstone Myers is just jumping into lockers. Yes you're gonna get put on the hook but it's better then getting straight up killed right out of the game.
  • Plu
    Plu Member Posts: 1,468

    It's a high risk high reward and it's not even that strong, the punishment for failing something as a surv is just way harshers wich is fine, it should be that way

  • Verconissp
    Verconissp Member Posts: 1,601

    @Sleephartha said:
    How the heck is this fun for anyone but the killer? Its basically a free win game for Michael. I’d be ok with this if survivors had anything close. How about a suit of impenetrable armor ultrarare? One game where the survivor is unkillable. Or to be fair, one game where all 4 survivors are unkillable? What? The killer would leave because “whats the point? Its an unwinnable waste of time?” Exactly.

    If you really complaining about a addons that slows him down and can be countered by hiding in a locker or working on a gen then....I got nothing to tell you but to get good sadly,

  • Cardgrey
    Cardgrey Member Posts: 1,456

    I agree

  • BeanieEnthusiast
    BeanieEnthusiast Member Posts: 213
    Wah tombstone boi mori’d me with his tombstone NERF NERF NERF!! 
  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    I always have Myers tap stalk and instakill me. Punished because the 200iq players on my team let him stalk the hell out of them. Then that laggy hit at a pallet becomes a laggy instakill.

    There's no balance to it don't give me that garbage. Being able to instantly take a healthy survivor out of the game with no effort in chasing them is the most broken thing in the entire game.
  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,823

    If a Myers with a Judith's Tombstone is able to get more than one kill then either you or your team sucked. If a Myers with a Fragrant Tuft and Judith's Tombstone is able to get any kills at all (assuming they're not hooking or downing anyone) before the gens pop then you or your team seriously sucked.

    The second combo is how I unlocked the trophy for killing all 4 survivors in EW. Got the last guy literally 6 feet from the hatch. It was glorious.
  • redsopine01
    redsopine01 Member Posts: 1,269
    TAG said:
    Myers has a lot of broken add-ons.

    I don't get how so many people can cry about Prayer Beads which aren't even that powerful yet be fine with all this chumps broken add ons.
    Does he?  I don't actually know, but if I had to guess, the only ones to which one would probably have that accusation thrown are Fragrant Tuft of Hair and Tombstone Piece.  Maybe the one that lets you see the aura of someone if you Stalk them for more than a second?
    TAG said:
    Myers has a lot of broken add-ons.

    I don't get how so many people can cry about Prayer Beads which aren't even that powerful yet be fine with all this chumps broken add ons.
    Does he?  I don't actually know, but if I had to guess, the only ones to which one would probably have that accusation thrown are Fragrant Tuft of Hair and Tombstone Piece.  Maybe the one that lets you see the aura of someone if you Stalk them for more than a second?
    Scratch and vanity mirrors let you see all when stalking and if you run monitor with scratch no tr
  • redsopine01
    redsopine01 Member Posts: 1,269

    Fragrant Tuft of Hair is more powerful and way more useful than Judith's Tombstone. I have like 15 sitting on Myers and do not touch them. The impact on MS is not worth it.

    That's why you run play with your food dying and save the best for last all togeather fast movement slow gens 2 tombstoned (never 3 kill them for that slug one in the basement then while they are slugged kill the other guy then pick up in a corner and chase the last guy down once they get free
  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,874
    I always have Myers tap stalk and instakill me. Punished because the 200iq players on my team let him stalk the hell out of them. Then that laggy hit at a pallet becomes a laggy instakill.

    There's no balance to it don't give me that garbage. Being able to instantly take a healthy survivor out of the game with no effort in chasing them is the most broken thing in the entire game.
    I feel like you undermine your own claim by pinning the blame on sloppy teammates and lag.

    redsopine01 said:
    Scratch and vanity mirrors let you see all when stalking and if you run monitor with scratch no tr
    As far as I am aware, those are extremely map dependent at best.
  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    TAG said:
    I always have Myers tap stalk and instakill me. Punished because the 200iq players on my team let him stalk the hell out of them. Then that laggy hit at a pallet becomes a laggy instakill.

    There's no balance to it don't give me that garbage. Being able to instantly take a healthy survivor out of the game with no effort in chasing them is the most broken thing in the entire game.
    I feel like you undermine your own claim by pinning the blame on sloppy teammates and lag.

    redsopine01 said:
    Scratch and vanity mirrors let you see all when stalking and if you run monitor with scratch no tr
    As far as I am aware, those are extremely map dependent at best.
    He stalks the hell out of my teammates, I get instakilled for it despite not being hit or seen all game up until that point.

    Yup, sure seems fair.
  • Swiftblade131
    Swiftblade131 Member Posts: 2,056

    Are we just gonna ignore how you can loop him long enough to see the end of universe when Judith's is in use?

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,874
    The_Crusader said:
    He stalks the hell out of my teammates, I get instakilled for it despite not being hit or seen all game up until that point.

    Yup, sure seems fair.
    That is pinning the blame on your teammates, is it not?
  • se05239
    se05239 Member Posts: 3,919

    It takes THREE FULL SURVIVORS worth of evil in order to use the Infinite Tombstone.. unless you're literally feeding Myers.. he's throwing the game.

  • Nick
    Nick Member Posts: 1,286

    Tombstone is OP???? #########! Try that at rank 1 and they'll do 5 gens before you get enough stalk!

  • redsopine01
    redsopine01 Member Posts: 1,269
    TAG said:
    I always have Myers tap stalk and instakill me. Punished because the 200iq players on my team let him stalk the hell out of them. Then that laggy hit at a pallet becomes a laggy instakill.

    There's no balance to it don't give me that garbage. Being able to instantly take a healthy survivor out of the game with no effort in chasing them is the most broken thing in the entire game.
    I feel like you undermine your own claim by pinning the blame on sloppy teammates and lag.

    redsopine01 said:
    Scratch and vanity mirrors let you see all when stalking and if you run monitor with scratch no tr
    As far as I am aware, those are extremely map dependent at best.
    Tested it in a 4man off game caught them by suprise so much I hid near the hatch in stalk they ran to jump i grabbed them or another was sneaking through a pallet lunge down this was on the church
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Sleephartha said:
    How the heck is this fun for anyone but the killer? Its basically a free win game for Michael. I’d be ok with this if survivors had anything close. How about a suit of impenetrable armor ultrarare? One game where the survivor is unkillable. Or to be fair, one game where all 4 survivors are unkillable? What? The killer would leave because “whats the point? Its an unwinnable waste of time?” Exactly.

    Not really, it takes ages to collect enough juice

  • dannyfrog87
    dannyfrog87 Member Posts: 568

    @Sleephartha said:
    How the heck is this fun for anyone but the killer? Its basically a free win game for Michael. I’d be ok with this if survivors had anything close. How about a suit of impenetrable armor ultrarare? One game where the survivor is unkillable. Or to be fair, one game where all 4 survivors are unkillable? What? The killer would leave because “whats the point? Its an unwinnable waste of time?” Exactly.

    lol do you know how much evil it gets to get it too tier 3? it is hard and the killer has to work his ass or balls off! take your pick. i would know i had to get the achievement for it! odds are if a myers is using thats the reason! since i have the achievement never again! lol. also makes you slower and once in tier 3 you cant stalk!

  • dannyfrog87
    dannyfrog87 Member Posts: 568

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    Sleephartha said:

    How the heck is this fun for anyone but the killer? Its basically a free win game for Michael. I’d be ok with this if survivors had anything close. How about a suit of impenetrable armor ultrarare? One game where the survivor is unkillable. Or to be fair, one game where all 4 survivors are unkillable? What? The killer would leave because “whats the point? Its an unwinnable waste of time?” Exactly.

    Dude it takes forever for Myers to get to T3 to even use Tombstone! If he's chasing just one survivor and constantly stalking you (which he can't get the full stalk off of just 1 survivor) you as the survivor just have to run him around and give your teammates time to do the gens before he can actually get it off. He's slow in T1 so you can out run him anyway. Plus once he is done stalking you he'll just leave and find another to stalk giving you a chance to go work on gens too. Biggest way to avoid being killed by a Tombstone Myers is just jumping into lockers. Yes you're gonna get put on the hook but it's better then getting straight up killed right out of the game.

    exactly! i remember when trying to get the achievement i killed all but one in one game the last guy got the hatch i was annoyed! then i got it on badham but i had to work my ass off for it! this guy complaining about something that slows you down lol and you cant stalk once in tier 3! should go play killer use the tombstone and see its disadvantages lmao! good grief

  • Justicar
    Justicar Member Posts: 319

    @The_Crusader said:
    Dwight_Confusion said:

    Myers' add ons are perfectly balanced.

    Stop crying.

    This is where I would use the LOL button.

    This is where I would use the LOL button.

  • OGlilSPOOK20
    OGlilSPOOK20 Member Posts: 716

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    Sleephartha said:

    How the heck is this fun for anyone but the killer? Its basically a free win game for Michael. I’d be ok with this if survivors had anything close. How about a suit of impenetrable armor ultrarare? One game where the survivor is unkillable. Or to be fair, one game where all 4 survivors are unkillable? What? The killer would leave because “whats the point? Its an unwinnable waste of time?” Exactly.

    Dude it takes forever for Myers to get to T3 to even use Tombstone! If he's chasing just one survivor and constantly stalking you (which he can't get the full stalk off of just 1 survivor) you as the survivor just have to run him around and give your teammates time to do the gens before he can actually get it off. He's slow in T1 so you can out run him anyway. Plus once he is done stalking you he'll just leave and find another to stalk giving you a chance to go work on gens too. Biggest way to avoid being killed by a Tombstone Myers is just jumping into lockers. Yes you're gonna get put on the hook but it's better then getting straight up killed right out of the game.

    exactly! i remember when trying to get the achievement i killed all but one in one game the last guy got the hatch i was annoyed! then i got it on badham but i had to work my ass off for it! this guy complaining about something that slows you down lol and you cant stalk once in tier 3! should go play killer use the tombstone and see its disadvantages lmao! good grief

    That's crazy because I got the achievement on that same map too. 1 gen left and 4 survivors still alive until i killed my obsession and started Dying Light. All 3 gens were at preschool so I had the 3 gen strat and unlimited evil 3 with tombstone. Killed everyone and the last survivor thought there was going to be a hatch standoff... Killed him where he stood 😂.
  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,618

    Well yeah, if you let him feed Evil off of you, then you won't win.

  • dannyfrog87
    dannyfrog87 Member Posts: 568

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:
    dannyfrog87 said:

    @OGlilSPOOK20 said:

    Sleephartha said:

    How the heck is this fun for anyone but the killer? Its basically a free win game for Michael. I’d be ok with this if survivors had anything close. How about a suit of impenetrable armor ultrarare? One game where the survivor is unkillable. Or to be fair, one game where all 4 survivors are unkillable? What? The killer would leave because “whats the point? Its an unwinnable waste of time?” Exactly.
    

    Dude it takes forever for Myers to get to T3 to even use Tombstone! If he's chasing just one survivor and constantly stalking you (which he can't get the full stalk off of just 1 survivor) you as the survivor just have to run him around and give your teammates time to do the gens before he can actually get it off. He's slow in T1 so you can out run him anyway. Plus once he is done stalking you he'll just leave and find another to stalk giving you a chance to go work on gens too. Biggest way to avoid being killed by a Tombstone Myers is just jumping into lockers. Yes you're gonna get put on the hook but it's better then getting straight up killed right out of the game.

    exactly! i remember when trying to get the achievement i killed all but one in one game the last guy got the hatch i was annoyed! then i got it on badham but i had to work my ass off for it! this guy complaining about something that slows you down lol and you cant stalk once in tier 3! should go play killer use the tombstone and see its disadvantages lmao! good grief

    That's crazy because I got the achievement on that same map too. 1 gen left and 4 survivors still alive until i killed my obsession and started Dying Light. All 3 gens were at preschool so I had the 3 gen strat and unlimited evil 3 with tombstone. Killed everyone and the last survivor thought there was going to be a hatch standoff... Killed him where he stood 😂.

    one of them was when i was killing feng min near the hook and i heard the bill try flashlight me in the animation. and i was like you ######### up bill time to die now. and i finally got it! lol.

  • Captain_Spaulding
    Captain_Spaulding Member Posts: 587

    I don't think tombstone and tuft is that rare. I have about 15 of each just sitting in my inventory. I only used them like twice because they feel cheap and you don't even get to pip off them. It's maybe a safety pip. That's the biggest trade in the kit. Sure you MIGHT get the 4k but you don't get points and you don't pip. You're extremely slow and super lucky to get the EW3 off at all. Scratched mirror Myers is objectively the best Myers. I've played it so often and the survivors usually have a good time against it too. Hell, if I get sent the hospital as a survivor due t killer offering I get excited to see it. All in all, sure fragrant tombstone is cheap but extremely hard to pull off. Just learn to crouch better and loop more.

  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,168
    It makes things interesting, the tension and atmosphere is much better when the stakes are so high. Plus I can't help but chuckle when a ballsy runner teammate is cut down for foolishly drawing attention to themselves.