Nerf survivors for god sake
Survivors are overpowered.
Just had a match:
Crappy mmr gave me
Survivors with 4 flashlight, 4 head ons Everytime I walk past a locker head on stunned. Chasing one survivor. Smash hit into head on. Followed by flashlight. And the devs see this as fine.
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Four Head On? That sounds like those survivors were memeing, that's probably a good thing.
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Yeah, try playing soloQ survivor sometime, the experience will change your life.
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It is only a meme to a point... It is a weapon when used with coms.
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I would much rather go against weaponised Head On than teams playing more efficiently, because at least Head On is funny and can be played around easily once you know it's in play.
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No they weren't they powered through gens still. They took it in turns to come and bully me.
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4 Head Ons? Someone had Smash Hit AND Head On? They were 100% memeing!
If you KNEW the survivors were in every locker why didnt you bait them out? Or just time a grab?
No SB? No DH? People hiding in lockers instead of doing gens.... What I would GIVE for that match...
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Because hitboxes are janked and I can be no where near the locker and still get head onned. They didn't use head on and smash hit at the same time. They smash hit me and then they run off whilst I break pallet and recover there mate is in locker down the way unknown to me they head on me and run away and whilst recovering from stun I get a freak flashlighting me and eventually blinding me. Whilst the fourth has finished a gen and half way through the next.
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You got owned in one game, that is no reason to Nerf everyone for every game. Think of others. Survivors do not need nerfed because you lost once.
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It's not just thag match though is it. Killers struggle in most matches against survivors cos they have nothing to help them. Survivors have everything to their advantage and are occasionally unlucky and the killer may get a kill or so. The devs need to see this from the killer point of view.
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Imagine thinking the entirety of a side needs to be nerfed for... this
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When I play survivor I own the killer every match near enough without really trying.
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Then you find yourself backing away from every locker... good luck winning chases when there is one on every loop. then again my ping is low so i can't bait like someone with 60+ can.
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Bro, on what map is there a locker every loop? Have you ever tried playing Huntress, sometimes there aren't any for miles when you need to reload.
Pretty much the only map where Head On is a problem even once you know about it would be... I dunno, Haddonfield?
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Red Forest have plenty of them. Got a head on squad on there recently 😫
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Well Haddon is the one map where this happened to me XD
Some of the basic loops have a locker on the outside wall after passing the pallet. If you walk through the door in shack they can get you.. Mothers dwelling -.-
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Haddonfield is the one map where Head On is kind of a problem, I'd empathise with that, but it's one map and it's already a pretty bad one for killer.
There are spots on other maps you can make it work- Thompson House has a nice one, and the Red Forest maps have a few okay spots, but it's trivially easy to avoid them if you know you might get hit with Head On.
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I don't think you actually play survivor, personally. This isn't the first thread where I've seen you pitting killer vs survivor and crying out to nerf the entire survivor side.
There have been valid counterpoints in here, each one met with another excuse or defense. If you want a genuine discussion, try listening to the other sides presented to you.
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I'm with you on this bud. The ones that say oh take a break or I think it's fine are swf probably
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I completely agree. Playing killer sometimes feels like trying to go through a divorce again. They should remove exhaustion perks, they give survivors free distance with no skill requirement.
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Did you just create an account to write on the first "Nerf Survivors"-Thread without actually reading it?
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I mean, going for Head Ons and Flashlights sounds like an alright game. At least the Survivors are searching for Killer/Survivor-Interactions. And those are the interactions the Killers want, dont they? Or would you prefer them sitting on a Gen all the time, getting out ASAP?
Some people clearly just want effortless 4Ks with the Survivors having no chance whatsoever... If they really want to get many Head Ons, Pallet Stuns and Flashlights in as possible, you will have a decently long game to kill them, because from your explanation it does not sound like they cared for Gens at all.
And if you now tell me that they were also lightning-fast on Gens, something does not add up.
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Okay, remove exhaustion perks then remove slowdown perks.
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No, they should keep slowdown perks, perhaps even make ruin/pop basekit. Default gen speeds are too quick
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I dont know about other, at least for me. I play for the fun.
As survivor I can die happy in the end with Noed if I have a fair play match. As killer I can happy with 0-1k if Im able to make survivors struggle with my End game build.
There is no fun with M1 on Gen for 200sec then escape because a teammate gets tunneled, or I have 4k while I get constantly Head on, clicky,tbag. Satisfied? Yes, but no fun.
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Since we're recommending irrational nonsense in this thread now, why not remove killer powers entirely too? Make everybody M1.
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Come on, don't make this whole thread satire. I'm simply proposing that ruin should be basekit at tier 1's regression rate. It would help tons with genrush squads.
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Dude, you are supposed to say they didn't EARN it. that is the go to for nerfing killer perks.
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You just recommended removing all exhaustion perks due to... no skill? Ruin also requires no skill. Yet I'm the one making the thread satire? Okay, friend.
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Ruin requires you to push survivors off gens and rewards fast chases by forcing the other survivors to come to unhook, forfeiting the progress they had on any gens. Save for maybe Smash Hit, exhaustion perks only require you to sprint, vault or drop from a height.
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they wont because survivors make most money
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why do all killers want survivors nerfed whenever they let the survivors bully them?
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The game is well balence close to 80% of the player like the balance so its a good thing in their eyes.
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You'll find a lot of members on this site that think they only ever face toxic SWFs, so to them, both are the same lol
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All you guys that are saying I'm moaning and that it's all perfectly etc. I'm sorry but you clearly don't play killer and if you do it's very rare. I play both sides and see the issues with both sides.
Not only that you say I'm moaning etc and I'm sorry it wouldn't be the first time ive seen you survivors cry out on the forums about killers.
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If I said something from a survivor point of view about a killer. Most of you guys will be in agreeance. So you are quite amazingly hypocrytical.
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So what about Survivors do you want to see get the nerf hammer?
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I have had flashlights not work more often than work and pallets be the ONLY thing that keeps me from being killed.
On that note I do have sone ideas that might help and 100% enraged me but also gave me mad respect for the killer when someone did it.
As a killer that uses pallets on the other team, it makes me very aware of them so there's that. You need better enviornment mapping skills. Figure out what things are where so you can out maneuver one trick pony players like that.
Also choose a killer that can lay traps (there's two. Obviously trapper and one other lady killer) Do you know how many times they've snatched me up RIGHT IN FRONT OF A PALLET AND I COULD DO NOTHING? XDXD it's great and I hate it. Also let them drop the pallets, if you have a fast killer you can snatch them AGAIN through windows and vaulting pallets.
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Literally no one, not a single person here, other than you, have said youre moaning. Literally nobody. Everyone has tried to speak with you respectfully and you keep saying similar things "you say i'm moaning" but literally nobody has said that.
It is quite commonly known and agreed upon that this is a primarily killer-centric forum. The fact that most people arent agreeing with you is somewhat telling...
Finally, a lot of people play both side, not just you. Youre not a unique and magical unicorn if you play both. Youre dismissing EVERYONE that says they play both/killer and disagree with you. Youre calling them liars and insulting them and their skill. This is not the appropriate way to ensure civil discourse.
You are in Discussion on the Forums. People dont have to agree with you to discuss this. But you do have to be civil and respectful or disagreeing viewpoints.
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Are we really complaining about head on, the perk with a tiny hitbox that hardly works?
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Because same way survivors said ahhh op killers nerf him.
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But survivors do need to be nerfed. The whole thing mmr is showing that survivors are the absolute power role in dbd then you add perks on top of that.
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Your thread just got blessed by Sluzzy.
You lucky thing.
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This entire Chat concerns me to a degree because even KILLERS are telling you that you're wrong, and then we have that one person spouting complete nonsense about how Killers need to be God-Tier.
I think this has been said before but I'll say it again. You went up against a SWF MEMEING on you and you're mad about that? Killers would KILL for that type of fun because they're not running the basic Meta DH, BT, DS, IW Perks you see on every other SWF. Not every other survivor you see is going to pull this off. Survivors aren't overpowered at all, you just ran into a really good team. As far as I've seen, Killers aren't struggling at all; you are. I just came out DBD for a break and out of all the matches I played, i escaped 5 times; the others were straight death by hooks and either a 3K or a 4K for the killer.
I don't even know what to say for you cause your entire argument/Debate was really bad. Just like him, just because you can't seem to in doesn't mean that Survivors are broken and as far as i know, the only advantage we have is SWF so taking away things that help solo Q survivors last longer will QUICKLY Diminish the game because of your selfish idea.
Default Gen speeds aren't fast at all and by the time one gets done, someone's either injured and being chased or downed and that's a good 9.5/10 of the time. I think the generators are fine but there ARE some perks that need to get nerfed on both sides, however, you need to play better instead of making these wacky comments.
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looks at Blight and Nurse: Mmmmmm......
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ah yes a top tier killer gets one change and now killer is suddenly unplayable
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I really hope this post is a meme
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Then they should remove Ruin, gives the killer free regression without skill requirement, or remove Pop, gives an additional 25% extra regression on kicking a generator without any extra skill requirement. Or NOED, or Haunted Grounds, or Undying.
Oh, what's that? It requires a perkslot? Cant believe I didnt see that.
You know what's worse than an exhaustion perk in a perkslot? Prove Thyself in a perk slot, or Unbreakable, or DS, or Botany Knowledge, or Selfcare. Exhaustion perks extend a chase, but nothing extends a chase more than getting back an entire healthstate.
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And lose lot on cosmetics and skins being sold? Nah buddy
-BHVR
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Clearly you haven't got Midwich against a 4 man head-on
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TLTR: I lost a match so nerf survivors.
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