Cancel Noed for last survivor, especially if Hatch gets closed

Wow, so just because you consider "bud" as a derogatory term, so apparently it is? As if all your little personal rules apply to everyone in the world and they have to abide by them or else they are "disqualified" by you? Who are you to anyone? I could care less about your little "disqualification". esp for words i use generally, even for friends. People feel so entitled nowadays and no absolute reason. If you have some childhood trauma of the word being used towards you (i.e. bullied and being called that) then i will resend it but if youre just saying you dislike it and is demeaning just because you feel like it is, then i retain it. Or youre just using that lone comment as a way to exit the conversation, then that's your purgative, no judgment here.

Okay i dont even know where you were trying to go with that comment towards the end... wow

and no, it is not a poll, its a general post. my goal was not to see who would prefer nerfed/removed Noed but to have a debate, and that is exactly what i am doing, If you actually pay attention. Regardless if most folks are against my point, that's the whole point of a debate, rebuttal and rebuttal. That is all it is, if you think it is anything more than that, then find a different post to comment on.

Nowhere in my post did i state that the ability is "unfair". I've stated my situation and reason for disliking it, preferring something done to it.

And point and case, the game is killer-favored, i recall somewhere on the DBD homepage that devs intentionally made killers OP with their existence alone. After that, straight up skill and experience enters the fray. Just because they have certain perks, as survivor or killer doesnt automatically mean they will give one or the other a run for their money, it's up to the players skill, whether they have the ability to apply such skills and effectively, as opposed to a one-hitter where they have to get in range and just hit you, zero skill, just to make up for lack of skill.

My true main point is that Noed is zero skill involved, you dont have to apply any techniques to utilize it is a handi-cap ability. And i literally just mentioned that i play killer with zero perks, using myself as an example that perks, let alone Noed is hardly necessary to "win".

And right, the killer "beat me to the hatch" as i slowly crawled away on the other side of the map. Right right.. And as if i knew the location of it. right...

Right, considering no comment has a vote passed the first page besides your own, "didnt upvote myself." sure sure...

And again, i am literally only talking about Noed, not any other abilities, so you mentioning other counter-able abilities is irrelevant in this post. And i literally said frustrated One Time, chill out. Besides my one-time mentioning the frustration, there is nothing more but just a debate going on here, and clearly youre taking it more than that for whatever strange reason.

And yes, it personally frustrates me, you make it sound like i am the ONLY person on this entire planet that plays this game and doesnt like Noed. So thank you for reiterating the purpose of my post, i do not like Noed for XYZ and would like it nerfed/re-worked/re-moved. Whether they do it or not, it's not going to stop me from talking about it and having debates.

I will say that Way before your comment from going back and forth with someone else, i already realized a miniscule solution for my argument, Actively look for totems and TRY to run the entire map and find them if playing solo.

Even if i apply all these little suggestions, i'm still going to debate the reasons why i would want something done to it. That probably will neer change.

Wow, what a sound argument. Now you're dissing me by saying that i am bad at the game. What a great rebuttal that holds absolutely no weight in this debate. Try again.

And the do require skill, because iron will doesn't mean you magically disappear from the killers view or chase after they hit you, unless pulling some ridiculous spin moves, sure.. there is a skill involved to run, evade, lose their sight and hide and them not finding you because of the ability. Iron will doesn't make the killer Blind. wow. And Adrenaline has skilled involved, as you saw, i was able to move away from the area i was downed at and got the ability to move and evade further, as opposed to laying there and bleeding out. it was used effectively to provide me a second chance, which didn't matter, because again, Noed. even if i wasn't downed and put to healthy state, still wouldn't matter. smh.

You cant even say that for Noed, "i used it effectively by ensuring an easy down and killl by hitting them once regardless of their health status end-game because i didnt catch all them mid-game and want to make up for that".

What point is there discussing how the 3 random teammates messed up if you cant even discuss with them and intend to play with those same people again and again..? What, do i discuss it with myself? right.... and it wont even matter in future matches with other random teammates, especially when the situations are different every other time.

And this isn't about survivor perks, comparing them to killer's and which are op, its about, again, Noed and why it should be revised.

Right.. and where did i say i was a survivor main..? i literally said i play killer half the amount of time but i guess you didn't read or forgot because you're too busy looking at the only points you could try to find one little thing to say about it. smh.

And using entitled all of a sudden just because i used it.. wow.

That comment tells me you didn't think of the game and the plethora of situations that can occur to over-simplify your argument wow..

Okay where are you getting "if you want to mess around"? when this entire time the discussion has been about serious gameplay. And why do you keep bringing up "discussing" if there is literally no one to discuss the game with if you're playing solo? Sure, you can recall the things that happened and brought misfortune on your end, whether from the other random teammate's ends or whatever, but that evaluation means nothing being carried over into the next game with other rando's who again, you cannot communicate in-game.

Even if we managed to communicate mid-game (with a rando specifically) that doesn't ensure that they will do it, cant force someone to be a team player (i.e. all 3 escaping when you've barely been hooked, especially for the first time end-game). Again, that is more likely accomplished if playing with friends, which is not what I've been referencing at all in this entire post...

Yet you assume my intent instead of asking, sure okay. Incorrect again, my point is that besides it "annoying me" as you like to say, is that the perk does not involve any real skill and/or application but knowing "once i get to end game i can just one-hit people and they wont know it until i hit them, while they're thinking they will get a hit-boost and run away". And this "only measure" to "counter" is to just spend every single game looking for dull totems and hoping you spot them or that your random teammates cleanse them on the other sides of the map and poof, problem solved.

And also inferring that i've been condescending, yet you only refer to your own comment and about my stating that you up-voted it yourself. smh. To me it looks like you're wanting to feel entitled and not having any other substance for an argument.

And again using other abilities that do not compare to the one i am referencing. My point is a one-hit, end the game for you deal. Not, "oh ive been blinded, i've lost the game". That does not even compare. again, not relevant.

I am not up here simply just saying, "oh i dont like Noed, it's such a lame perk, i hate the concept, its no annoying, i want it removed because i just simply do not like it." when i've literally been saying this entire time, based on unfortunate situations where it does not applicable skills to the game.

I need context for your self-explanatory comment of, as you so nicely quoted, that i come across as one and then you stating that i ousted myself as a main. i need context to understand those straight forward comments? i dont even want to know the thought process... and how is  "You pretty much just outed yourself as an entitled survivor main." a minor type? thats a HUGE type.

And yes, i will stand by to say that iron will involves skill, change my mind if you can, but so far nothing you have said has made me think to the left or right of it.

Wow, then you assume i have a very obvious bias? And then to say i'm "blinded" by it? Okay, sure, if you want to make a bold and baseless statement, esp when i've literally said i play killer half the time. And also when i am literally talking about Literally a single perk, not 7,10, 11 of them. smh

My last paragraph doesnt make sense. its a simple read. oh dear, is it because i forgot the word "have" right before applicable in the last sentence? i guess unintentionally forgetting a word in a sentence makes it impossible to read.

And i dont know what youre going on about with manners. And the fact that you continuously keep saying that i am "annoyed" by the perk when i mentioned frustration once and then went on to talk about the situations where it is seen as a reason to be nerfed. smh.

If anything all that youre saying up to this point is fruitless because my main point stands at that Noed ruins the game based off of its concept, regardless of all these million ways that there are to counter as you all have shared.

Great talk. Moving on.

Wow, you just cant help yourself can you? I feel youre not even gaining anything from this point. And defining something just because you think that's what it is to you? Come on.. Move on already, youre not adding anything more to this conversation saying that i'm shooting myself in the foot is some way of making yourself sound superior, if that's what you need for yourself, by all means, do and say what you must.

Again, youre no longer providing points for a productive conversation so why dont you stop "shooting yourself in the foot".

Again, moving on.

I take your point of view and you explained it 1000x's better as opposed to just arguing for the sake of arguing, mentioning things unrelated to the specific argument or stating absurd or unnecessary comments.

Thanks, that provides a better/applicable perspective for me.

Wow, the fact that you assume i think people are "dumb" just because they have a difference in opinion and have not stated anything to fully change my view on Noed?

That's rude of you to presume that, and basically calling these people dumb yourself.

Nowhere in my comments have i stated that anyone is "dumb" just because of their argument and the fact that you made such a ridiculous comment says that youre not trying to have an intellectual conversation at this point. and especially about the part of saying only my opinion matters. smh. If that were the case, i would straight up say, "Nope, youre wrong. Dont care what you say. Nope, no listening even though this is an open forum. Noed should just get removed because i said and everything you said means nothing." When i'm arguing points against other's points as opposed to just, nope, you're wrong. Bye.

So my perspective is supposed to change and full on agree with "the majority" just because they think this or that is fine? Right... You're no longer adding anything to this discussion that creates a productive conversation. smh

For some reason i thought i recalled having Dead hard in the match. user error.

and "so many flaws" ? whilst only stating one specific one? smh. i already commented to you earlier, what else are you trying to include in addition to what has already been discussed with others? smh.

And didnt you say that you "got bored" reading the first 3 comments where i was "spouting"? smh again.