Why Don't Survivors Fight Back
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I disagree. have you sent how tiny those survivors are? Plus the entity fuels the killers with power hence how the pig and hag can break pallets. Also, David I am sure, lore wise has tried to fight a killer.. it didnt have a happy ending.
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The only people i would even consider to have fought a killer the first time they arrived were probably Detective Tapp, David King and Bill. But of course two of those people are old and closer to the grave than to the cradle and the other probably needed to get his stomach pumped after he just wouldn't learn to stay down.8
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Ever been hit with a pallet?
Hurts like ######### man.
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If a terrifyingly scary killer would chase you, would you fight back?
If yes, then..no.
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I am fairly sure Mr.Good job so far already explained in a stream that the Entity's realm is basically like a nightmare which means some actions you just simply can't do like in a bad dream where you want to do something but you simply can't so I assume that's why they just can't or won't fight back and also why they don't do many other actions.
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They have stated before in the devstreams that the Killers are incapable of being injured, but they do still feel pain. For example, the screams when they get hit by a pallet, or Nurse when she slows down after teleporting.
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I'm still like the idea that the four survivors could totally gang up and mori pig, or tie her up or something, she isn't even gigantic like the other human(ish) killers like huntress/shape/trapper so I bet one of the more strong ones like David could just overpower her, especially with some help.
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@MrChills said:
I disagree. have you sent how tiny those survivors are? Plus the entity fuels the killers with power hence how the pig and hag can break pallets. Also, David I am sure, lore wise has tried to fight a killer.. it didnt have a happy ending.You're talking about how small survivors are in compare to killers and in the same sentence talk about pig that's same size as average survivor
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Dave said a while back on stream that the reason they don't jump, talk and etc. is because this is the Entity's realm and it decides the rules. Survivors are in a nightmare like state, like when you are in a nightmare you sometimes can't talk or do/see things like writing. It's like that. They are just unable to because the Entity wants it to be like that.
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@βLAKE if you play the game you die and you "come back". The characters here are a duplicate of their true selves and they are forced to SURVIVE not fight. they cant just fight back because they might have done it before and failed countless times... Dying and dying and dying, Over and over and over again. when you play dead by daylight and select a character you appear with a Shroud of smoke proving that you aren't the Real Dwight or Claudette or Meg or Jake or David or Tapp or Bill or Laurie or Nea or Quinten or Feng.
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Would you punch a massive chainsaw wielding man with super speed who killed his entire family as a kid and had his abilities made stronger with super senses, endurance, and breaking solid objects with a light kick who can effortlessly pick you up and keep you there?
I thought so.
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You wanna fight back machete , knife with fists O_O
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@8BITLORD said:
Would you punch a massive chainsaw wielding man with super speed who killed his entire family as a kid and had his abilities made stronger with super senses, endurance, and breaking solid objects with a light kick who can effortlessly pick you up and keep you there?I thought so.
i would try if i would just come back to life everytime i died
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4 Dwights bashing a Wraith to death with purple flashlights
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@swenpai said:
If a terrifyingly scary killer would chase you, would you fight back?
If yes, then..no.
What if you knew you couldn't die? You're telling me you would just let The Entity kill you over and over again? That's pretty strange, because survivors can't die.
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@TheHolySpirit said:
@swenpai said:
If a terrifyingly scary killer would chase you, would you fight back?
If yes, then..no.
What if you knew you couldn't die? You're telling me you would just let The Entity kill you over and over again? That's pretty strange, because survivors can't die.
They still obviously feel pain when hit. Even if I couldn't die, I still wouldn't go toe-to-toe with any of the killers.
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Do you see how big and scary they are? Even David King runs, And do you see all of his muscle with the shirtless skin?The killers are called Killers for a reason.
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wouldnt be surprised if in lore they fought back at least once so they get the picture that they cant win also the entity gives killers super strength, speed and cant be killed plus the survivor tries something they get hit with the killers weapon. i have thought that the pig would be the weakest if killers could die or be attacked by survivors. just imagine 4 davids beating the crap out of the pig
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I've once stared down a Trapper with David King to the point where he would slowly back away from me whenever he saw me in the match :'D
I'm 100% convinced David tried to deck the killers on more than one occasion, and, in all honestly, so would I. If you have been stuck in the fog for years you'll get used to the pain. Getting murdered will still hurt, dying will still be somewhat scary I'd assume, but what would keep me going on the long run would be spite. It's trying to break the rules, testing their limits. Also it gives you back a feeling of being somewhat "in control" in an otherwise absolutely hopeless situation. Though I agree, it would most probably not "change" anything, since the Entity will not allow serious harm to come towards its killers, it would be a form of protest.
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Wait so on stream they said survivors cant fight back but this doesn't explain Jane Romero's perk where she literally charges on the killer and stuns them. This means that all the survivors should be able to lay the smackdown on the killer. I still can't wrap my head around the idea that a highschool kid wearing a mask is able to beat and kill someone like David King or Bill. I mean if according to the stream they can't jump, talk, or fight but are still able to charge the killer with the latest perk, why can't David perform a rugby tackle or something? Sounds like plot induced stupidity to me. In fact I believe the only ones who they couldn't beat would be Myers, The Huntress, and The Trapper. Other than that I don't see any reason why they can't each grab a toolbox or a flashlight and start beating the crap out of the killer.
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This game is already a bully simulator, if you make it even worse no one will play killer.
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We already saw what happens when you let survivors have a chance to kill the killer *cough* F13 literally killed jason 20 games in a row. Lorewise though I guess the entity probably would intervene if the killer was in any kind of trouble. Like the lorewise assistance through perks like NOED.
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I would be for it if David King had a buff to Dead Hard, allowing him to 'Rugby Tackle' killers if he decided to use the ability to stun the killer for a few brief seconds. This comes with the risk that he would have to deliberately turn towards the killer to do so, giving them time to knock him down.
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Because it's a game and Killers seem to be invincible.
Michael is for sure atleast.
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Killers are immortal. You might as well try to punch your way out of a cave, at least you know stone is breakable.
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*Glances at No Mither*
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In reallife you would ######### your pants aswell if you had to run away from hag =)
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Yeah but I'm talking lore wise. I mean it's completely out of character for bill to run seeing as he died running TOWARDS a giant mutated zombie in left 4 dead. I just feel like there is something missing. If pallets falling on the killers heads hurt them, then a swift kick to the balls or a clean shot on the jaw should be efficient in hurting them. And if the killers are as strong as they are said to be, then why can't they down or even kill survivors with just one hit?
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The only way for survivors to fight back is through the use of Flashlights, that is literally their only weapon. It doesn't kill the killer but it does by them enough time to get away, flashing them at pallets, making flashlight saves, all of that is the only way for them to gain ground.
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And shouldn't bill be able to handle more punishment? The stuff he got hit with in left 4 dead makes dead by daylight look like nothing.
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Go play Last Year if you want to fight back against a killer.
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Doesn't matter, would you fight a killer with a sword or a knife even if you were stronger? She's being assisted by The Entity.
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I agree same thing with decisive strike they are literally stabbing something into the killers so obviously they have some potential to fight back against the killers
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Jane is a 'large' lady... To say the least. She's quite obviously got an advantage over most the survivors when it comes to attacking. When other survivors learn her perk, she likes to take them to the nearest McDonalds...
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i just think the Entity doesn’t allow it. Its realm, its rules. I have on more than one occasion said that four survivors, or just David, could take out a knife wielding twerp of a killer in Legion.
Now if you want to go toe to toe with Leatherface, Michael, the clown, or any of the other oversized brutes, best of luck to ya.
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Listen, guys. They CAN fight back! they just need to look around and find weapons like machetes, Baseball Bats, Sticks, Axes, Shotgun, Flare Gun, Bear Traps, and a Pan. Or just escape by calling the cops or getting the keys, fuel, and battery for the cars. ;)
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IMO, the survivors don't fight back because they are more likely to die. It is stated by Benedict Baker in lore that, "With each "death" I feel myself weaken, a little piece of my soul devoured by the darkness before I awake." So fighting back against the killers would just give the Entity what it wants sooner.
As for restraining the killers, they probably could. During the Hallowed Blight event someone, Vigo probably, captured the Trapper. So it is possible, but with a high possibility of dying.
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My personal head canon is that the Entity makes them too scary. The Entity can, presumably, control their heartbeat so that they know if the Killer's close. Maybe they can manipulate their emotions in the same way they manipulate their heartbeat to make them too afraid to fight against them? After all, the devs describe the Entity as an Emotion Vampire, and it's reasonable to assume the Survivor's fear sustains it.
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Do we really want Friday The 13th where you can kill the killer?
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And also, in Legion's Mori, the survivor is able to fight back a bit, and since they seem to be the weakest bunch out of all the other killers (Might be true in-game too) This makes sense for Freddy to be a little lower tier, since he was just a human that could control dreams and have finger knives, but not in tier with a enduring chainsaw sprinter that can yeet survivors in a few seconds if played well enough.
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Imagine all generators resetting and the killer simply getting up again myers' style (not jason lol).
I think restraining hag would be like trying to capture a human sized rabid feral animal, barehanded.
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How do you capture hag, she can teleport, lol
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