New Saw Charm!
Speaks for itself.
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On one hand, yay.
On the other hand, I don't want to ever be reminded of Spiral. I'd rather sit through Saw 3D again.
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Wow a charm...how exciting -_-
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The charm looks cool, but I never use charms so I'll probably never use it.
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I was hoping it was good. I’m guessing Spiral was that bad?
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It's a mess. Easily the worst of the franchise, finally unseating 3D. It's not quite as unpleasant to sit through, but it's way, way more boring.
If the rumors are correct, it was a partially finished script from another movie that got crammed into the Saw universe, plus Chris Rock insisting on writing a lot of his script himself (meaning that the tone is all over the place). Half the time he's just doing a stand-up skit, which can be really funny, but is not what you go to a Saw movie to see.
The traps are lame, and uninspired. While it makes sense once you guess the killer, it's still annoying - all but one are straight up 'kill' traps, in that they are impossible to survive. The final trap also makes absolutely zero sense, and is purely there for some heavy-handed social commentary on an already overplayed issue.
Plus, the MPAA apparently butchered a lot of the gore.
The identity of the killer is so ridiculously obvious that you'll get there before the movie is halfway done.
The chronology is silly, with constant unneeded jumps around in time.
Jackson is fun as always, and Rock is way better than I expected him to be, but it feels like an episode of Chicago PD doing a Saw homage.
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Sounds like an in depth review without spoiling anything. You may have found your calling.
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I never watched Spiral, but frankly all the Saw movies after the first are various levels of bad. (The original Saw is pretty good, but after that they get pretty nonsensical.)
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I agree. Of those I’ve seen, only the first was good. That’s why I was hopeful for spiral.
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Funny enough, I'm already there :). I mostly do manga/anime though.
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Really?
I enjoyed 4 5 and 6 way more than 1, 2 and 3 (I consider 5 to be the strongest of the series, actually). 3D was the worst until Spiral. Jigsaw was also pretty good.
If I had to order the films, I'd go 5, 4, Jigsaw, 6, 1, 3, 2......3D, Spiral.
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Obviously it's all a matter of personal opinion. But in case anybody's curious, here's the Rotten Tomatoes critics ratings
- Spiral (2021) 37%
- Jigsaw (2017) 32%
- Saw: The Final Chapter (2010) 10%
- Saw VI (2009) 40%
- Saw V (2008) 13%
- Saw IV (2007) 19%
- Saw III (2006) 29%
- Saw II (2005) 37%
- Saw (2004) 51%
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Interesting. Honestly, RT is...ugh sometimes.
Spiral - I think the rating is mostly virtue signaling due to it being the first 'diverse' Saw film and milking the whole 'all cops are bad' zeitgeist. It sucks. Hard.
Jigsaw - I'd give a much higher rating. Good story, fun traps (I actually adapted one into a puzzle for our Dungeons and Dragons campaign!), creative kills (the final one is a series highlight). The big twist has a huge logic gap though, so it loses marks there and it doesn't have the fun editing of the first 7.
The Final Chapter - Crap. Turns Kramer's character into a petty bully, totally breaks his 'no innocents' mandate. Bad CGI. Just a mean, unpleasant and oddly misogynistic (and for me to say that is quite something) little movie to sit through.
VI - Underrated. A bit too heavy-handed with it's political message, and very slow at some points, but certainly worth watching. Two very out-of-place victims though (this was the start of the character assassination of Kramer, possibly due to the efforts of Apprentice #2).
V - Amazed at the rating, as it's my favorite. Excellent gore, clever traps, well defined characters, bonkers ending.
IV - Also bafflingly low. My second favorite. Really original concept, great traps.
III - The drama with Kramer, Amanda and the doctor lady was really good and tense. I really like Amanda as a character. Jeff is the most frustrating protagonist in the series, and that's saying something. Slow, totally lacking in common sense.
II - Rating is about right. Some creative traps, but the core story makes zero sense, characters are unlikeable even for a Saw movie and way too much time is spent with Wallberg and Kramer faffing around.
I - It was a clever, even revolutionary movie - sort of an updated version of Se7en. It still spends too much time faffing around, has a lot of really hokey acting, dumb characters and confusing staging. That reveal blew my mind though, fortunately wasn't spoiled for me.
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