SWF IS NECESSARY

It's not lmao. Camping and tunneling is a choice. If some sort of miracle happened and SWF disappeared and the game's early game is fixed those two aren't going to disappear. It's simply built into the game. A killer can just wake up in the morning and decide that he's going to be a huge asshat that day nothing can stop him even the developers have stopped reports on this type of killer behavior.

Well at least somebody gets it.

Because this game was originally built and designed around there being no SWF in the game. So many people forget SWF did not exist. And the game is blatantly balanced around that (well attempted to at least)

I'd be all about the adjustments to killers to accompany solo queue. Solo queue is what this game was always based around. And its honestly the most respectable survivor players in this game period. Thats why information perks work the way they do. Sure killers like Nurse would make that mode nightmarish....but...she's always needed adjustments. The rest of the killer roster is already primed for play against solo survivors hence why they're so weak and underpowered against SWF teams, because they just weren't made with that kind of power creep in mind. Since they don't perform, you end up with nurse dominating the highest ranks because the only reason most survivors get there is through SWF teaming. AKA BEING BOOSTED!

It would still be better than our current system where balance is basically ignored in favor of appeasing larger crowds of SWF players to generate money on skins. Because for whatever reason, they don't have enough faith in their own art to believe it would sell at the same time as fixing their busted SWF concept.

But like I said at the end....its a dead dream right up there with console optimization.

Really?

Because even in soloQ killers are still camping and tunneling. This is the most ridiculous statement I have read.

Killers aren't Camping and Tunneling because people are in SWF, they do it because they can and it is a playstyle accepted by the developers.

Contrary to popular belief, not every coordinated team is "swf". It is possible to coordinate in SoloQ as well, and sometimes even better because it forces you to be aware of your surroundings, unlike a player saying: "Killer is on me" because for a split second they saw the killer was on them when in fact the killer had already left them.

As an example, I just played against a Pyramid Head and there was an instance where, I started a gen while he was hooking a survivor nearby. To throw him off I left the gen and went in a certain direction. He went to look for me and around the gen, but I had already left. I was merely a distraction because I knew he had pop and other people were working on a gen that had more progression than mine. Whereas he thought I was told to leave the gen because there was nothing around to loop.

I went to watch the VOD (it was a streamer) and noticed that when he saw my scratch marks his first words were "they must be on comms", which I wasn't, none of us were. They were just very good survivors, and I could tell the moment one of them took a hit for me from the git go.

Moral of the story. Good coordinated survivors don't need comms to do what is necessary. They only need to become experienced and understand how the game works. Which is something that Solo Q survivors lack, even with aura perks.

"Hardly ever dying" shouldn't be the bar for a "enjoyable"experience. If things were perfectly balanced, 3-4 escapes would only occur about half the time (and 3+ kills would only happen for killer about half the time). If you go into a match knowing you are very likely to escape (or to 4K, if you're playing killer), that's just not fun, imo.

If you need to be part of a SWF to escape at all, well that doesn't speak well to your skill as a player, but that's almost never the case. No one is entitled to winning most of the time in this game.

I swear to god that when I bring kindred my team purposely leaves me on the hook as long as possible anymore. And a lot of the time I get rescued literally 1 second to late and lose an entire hook state because of this. It makes solo queueing painful and agitating, when I play with a friend so many elements are easier to maintain.

Solo queue is just a huge gamble, because I have seen horrible teammates throw pallets, give free hits, and just sandbag the hell out of everyone because instead of playing as a team everyone only cares that they survive.

If you are bad at survivor and can't loop/evade killer long enough - play swf

If you are bat at killer and cant get get 1,2k before endgame - facecamp tunnel noed

(not talking about strategical camping or tunneling when it is optimal play which most survivors think is a same thing but it's not)

I've carried and been carried, that's how it goes. Having three horrible teammates is definitely not fun, but if I can get lesser teammates out, even at my own expense (which often leads to a lot of BP), can be a fun challenge. I think focusing too much on the escape as a condition for a fun and successful game is a problem for a lot of people, but I am not going to tell them how to feel.

Being in a SWF is definitely the most advantaged position you can be in as a DBD player, though.

I wish I had your solo games, lol! I have the complete opposite.

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Lucky. I wish I had your games.

You know whats really necessary? Killers. If they stop playing who is swf going to play against.

If you are bad at the game then yes, swf is necessary.

When I say coordinate, I mean beyond a basic level that even most SWFs utilize. Not trying to move the goal posts, I just wasn't super clear. Solo queue players can certainly play smart, but they aren't going to be able to coordinate saves and resets in a coherent manner without perk slots.

Dude, even with Kindred they don’t know what to do!

I don’t know how much more “coherent” you can get than that.