I believe DBD is one of the weaker games in the genre
I'm not one to support the comparing of games in this genre for the fact that this genre has a big thing where each game is honestly pretty damn different. I do believe out of Predator, Dead by Daylight, Friday the 13th, and REsistance that Dead by Daylight is the worst one. It is for the simple fact that these other games just have way more content. Even Friday the 13th still does. And obviously it's all opinions on what people prefer to play. Same are gonna say "Well DBD is just more fun to play though." All of these games are absolutely incredible because they are unique. But just as video games looking at all of it and I love all of these games I mentioned, DBD has been the weakest one in many areas. Like I said the content. And if you don't like one of these games then I understand why you wouldn't care for them. This is from someone who like I said loves and still plays them all. These other games though just have way more engaging gameplay. More interaction with the killer. Probably even better balancing like REsistance. I think there are ways to tell if a game is truly good or not and I honestly believe DBD is a bad video game but one that I 100% understand is still loved for specific reasons. I mean like I said I love it to. But these other games just offer way more value for your money, less bullshit with the cosmetics, and better content, MULTIPLE MODES. All the stuff DBD NEEDS are in these other games and more whjile also being very unique themselves.
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I love Friday the 13th but the game has 9 Jason’s and about 13 consoulers while dbd has like 23 of each. It has way less content
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Well yeah it has less counselors but then you take into account they have more personality because they have full on unique lines and F13 has a full on STORY MODE sort of. That makes up for the lower amount of survivors and more. F13 has more meaningful content. 3 survivors from DBD would probably equal the value of 1 from F13 because the ones in F13 are actually unique and have a personality.
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Well tell me how they don't. What amazing and humongous and extremely meaningful content does DBD have? One of the biggest ones is multiple modes which these other games all sort of have and DBD doesn't. One of the biggest things is immediately crossed off.
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People don't play DbD because it's the best of the genre.
People play DbD because nobody else has bothered to put this much time and effort into making an asymmetrical game.
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i wish there were better games in the genre just so that BHVR was forced to make better decisions. But sadly.. there isn’t. It’s of course subjective and all, but ultimately none of those games actually survived because of various reasons. And DbD is still here and strong going despite it’s many flaws.
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VHS looks promising.
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Not for me personally. There is something off with the artstyle and the weapons for the teens (flying umbrella thing..).
but yeah I hope it will gain traction and stay relevant for longer than the other attempt. I guess it being free2play is a very good start and I will certainly give it a chance because of that,
(also I think they have limited themselves kinda with there only being monsters/killer from 80s video movies. I know that can pretty much do whatever they want to expand their own lore but.. well we will see how it turns out)
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What amazing and humongous and extremely meaningful content does DBD have?
Literally every single licensed chapter or content in this game. How do you even compete with a game like this that has all of those famous licenses and of this size? DBD is the only real successful game of its genre, so of course the content is meaningful. The game would have died a long time ago if there wasn't something special about it.
Also every other asymmetrical horror game like DBD is dead, and VHS is still small. So I am pretty sure DBD is at the top of its genre.
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If there's one thing this game doesn't lack, that is content.
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The thing it lacks is "Quality" content lol
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OP says "I honestly believe DBD is a bad video game" yet has nearly 1000 posts on a DBD forum, there must be something about it that you like if you keep posting on here.
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If it weren’t for the lawsuit F13 would have been huge. The level of content it had during its small run was ahead of the pack and the roadmap was promising. By now? Would of had loads of content. DBD may not have been as successful, or it may well have been forced to adapt to the competition and could have been in a much better place.
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I'll just say this: I wish we maybe got some new maps to play on for the Pinhead DLC, but I also wouldn't know what those maps would be. Just getting a killer and survivor for two content drops means we're hopefully going to see a new map soon...
but there's certainly no lack of content for the game. You have to be specific about what content is lacking.
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If you look I basically said it is the type of bad game that people like for a good reason. The good things it does, it does really well. But not enough content to compete with these other games. Survivors don't count as good content. They are just skins.
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As far as I am aware people were saying F13 was already dying before the lawsuit stuff started..
we obviously don’t know if they had other updates planned and what would have happened but it’s not safe to say F13 would have succeeded
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Thing is, you personally dont see new content as new content anymore. The reason why you think other games have more content, is because their content is different from the content you're used to on DBD.
Voicelines? Eh, dont really matter, voicelines rarely made sense in DBD unless the characters were licensed. Voicelines are cool, but they need to make in-game sense too. In F13, survivors making loud noise is part of the design and sometimes even a massive imbalance. There is no real 1v1 in F13, if you and Jason are alone, you're dead. At best you buy some time or create enough confusion to escape, but that isnt a 1v1. So voicelines dont really matter. DBD has both 1v4 and 1v1 in the game, with the 1v4 aspect favoured towards survivors and the 1v1 aspect favoured towards the killer. Being found doesnt mean you're caught in DBD, but it does mean that being found in an ill-prepared situation, you'd be screwed. Now imagine survivors saying "oh god" when the killer gets close enough when they have been succesfully hiding and at this point the killer normally would leave to make sure gens arent being worked on too fast. Suddenly, you're in a situation where you'd be screwed in DBD.
So voicelines dont mean #########.
Then the storymode of F13, I mean, it's quite weak, let alone quite lame. Besides, technically, DBD HAS storymode, the lore behind DBD is much more detailed than behind F13. Each and every single survivor in DBD has far more interesting backgrounds and personality than the ones in F13.
And if we're going to talk meaningful content? Every single killer released has different mechanics to play as and to play against. DBD has more meaningful content. Every map has at least some unique playstyle that can only be played on those maps.
This post is by far the biggest biased argument I have seen. Biased in the sense that you're too used to DBD and therefor think any game with different mechanics is so much better. Why do you think REsistance flopped massively, even among RE fans who play DBD? Why do you think RE fans rather play Nemesis in DBD than playing Nemesis in REsistance?
DBD is the strongest in it's genre, the problem with DBD is that the higher-ups in BHVR do not treat DBD as a flagship game, it treats DBD as if it's one of many other games they have done tiny parts of, and limits its budget. I really wish BHVR would hire more programmers to straighten out the code so that other departments for DBD can focus on other things rather than spending a full day on making sure changes to Freddy arent going to affect Trapper.
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I mean if anything I think you have proven with your post that DBD is actually the strongest out of that list. Because has simple as the formula is people still here and keep coming back for more. Not to mention out of all of those games, it's the one that has remained alive.
I have over 1k hours on Friday13th and even I can admit that once the game stopped creating content it was doomed. It was probably the one that came closest to creating competition for DBD because it had things that were different, not because it had "better" things.
At the end of the day, the one thing I agree with, and that is supporting comparing games especially when they are so different. Comparing content is meaningless if it has no one to cater to.
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More content than DBD? Which game has more than Bubba, Myer, Freddy Silent hill, Resident evil, Saw, ghost face, stranger things...
No game will ever beat DBD in content. Theyre 5 years ahead.
Gameplay however. Really shallow. Gen to gate, obsession to totems.
But because a player can "customize 20% of a match" with their own choice of character, perk, addon, offering... Makes 2 matches never be the same. Is why watching DBD gameplay from streamers is so fun, its always full of surprise.
You got hit and down while vaulting, then Adrenaline kick in and disappear when killer on cool down. You wil never see that kind of moment in other game.
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The ONLY advantage DBD has over other games is its amount of content.
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The only content DBD has is 1 mode and killers. Not much there.
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But there's so many killers, survivors, items, add-ons, offerings, and maps to use. Add that on top of randomized loops spawns. There's basically infinite possibilities. That's not much when compared to games outside of the multiplayer horror genre, but within this genre it's a lot.
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Dbd has a lot of issues and in the video game world in general I'd say it's weaker than most other big title games. But to say it's weak in this specific genre is total bs. Most of the other games in this genre are absolutley terrible. Poorly made, unoriginal characters and gameplay, ugly graphics, awful performance, and a severe lack of content and an active playerbase.
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I think most different killers, perks, and levels of gameplay give DBD a ton of mini-games.
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I am talking about the bigger games in the genre. Ya know, like F13, Predator, and REsistance. All do a better job at being well made, having original characters, still having some fun gameplay, better graphics, better performance, and way more meaningful content.
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Survivors are all just skins. In all these other games they actually have personality and unique skills. So DBD gets the short end with that. These other games also have a lot more items. Offerings... Ok? They aren't that impressive. Maps, sure DBD has a lot but there are ones that aren't good so I'd only focus on the good ones. Randomized loops is ttheue equivalent to everything being randomized in these other games. Spawn locations of useful items. As for killers it's more about how the general gameplay feels and that is the super subjective part. I love all 4 of the games. Not everyone is gonna like it because they like 1 specific game's gameplay.
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You can customize 100% of the matches basically in the other games which gives even more variety for streamers. Also just because Myers and stuff is in the game, they don't count as more killers than the originals. Sure they are very cool to have but they aren't the equivalent of 2 killers worth of content or something. Still just 1 killer. Like EVERY killer.
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I don't get why people say the others are dead. I find matches very quickly in all of them.
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They had a lot of updates planned. I mean just look up the unreleased kills. They had SOOOOOO much basically already done and almost ready to ship.
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Dbd just wins because of updates and character variations.
The games you listed are Fun but all of them were either abandoned or doesn't have active support from the devs anymore.
My fav was Friday
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What I'm getting from this is that apparently the only way for a game to have "meaningful content" is if it includes arbitrary extra modes, regardless of whether they're fitting or appropriate for the game...?
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Many people haven't given them a chance is the problem. I'd like for people to give games like REsistance a real full chance. There is soooooo much variety in that game.
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Nope. But all DBD adds is new killers and new maps. Those are the 2 biggest things. Bare minimum that other games could crank out way faster and did. I mean REsistance had HUGE content updates every month until they stopped it.
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This game is such Jolt
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Right, but... aside from extra modes, what could they add? Each new killer adds in new fundamental mechanics (for the most part, and even repeated mechanics function differently) so that's obviously meaningful content, so even that is already pretty decent.
Seriously, though, what are you saying that DBD is lacking, if it's not extra modes?
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It's just lacking stuff. That's it. All we get is new killers and maps. I'm not saying I don't like this game. In fact I play it a lot. I love it. I'm just saying I think the other games are simply better for doing the things DBD gets wrong right. Like content mainly.
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How hard the sheep are trying to make DbD sound like it has a lot of content is surprising.
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Yes, but what content? Extra modes would at best be an amusing oddity, there's not that much they can do there, so what are they supposed to add? Just any example, I'm curious.
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As someone who's tried to explain this game to a newcomer, you'd be surprised. It stops feeling like it since we're all used to it, but this game has quite a bit going for it.
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Well new modes. That's mainly what I want. New side things to be able to do as well. More for your grind. Like free content. Like unlockable moris or do it like Friday the 13th where you can do environmental. Small things like that are really cool to me and add a lot. Easy to do, very effective.
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Fair enough, I suppose. I'd like to see those too, I guess I just don't see how their lack makes DBD the weakest game in the genre when it's pretty clearly one of the stronger ones.
It just seems kinda shallow to be this judgemental of the game for not having more free cosmetics.
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Friday the 13th was buggier than dbd and has less than half of the content that dbd has. I've literally never heard of predator and re resistence was notoriously boring and just a cash grab game from the start. And both friday the 13th and re resistance are dead as hell with little active playerbase. I hate praising dbd but I gotta give it credit where credit is due.
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Offline bots, and the scenes you can play through. It's more even then you are making out.
Lol. It is not worse balanced than DbD.
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It wasn't dying, but they went about 5 months with no content because they upgraded the game engine. That hurt the game alot.
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There are other games in this genre of multiplayer horror? Only ones I know of are either cheap indie junk that barely works, Friday the 13th, which was awful on release and has no playerbase now afaik, and Predator, which looked quite meh based on some gameplay I saw of it on release.
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Customize, I mean in a match, the only core mechanic are Gen-Gate, Obsession,Totem,Hook.
As 1 of 5 players, you can bring a character from a DLC (applied to Killer), 4 perks from 4 difference DLC. And you dont know what other 4 players will bring. The possible mix of 20 perks in ~200 perks in total , which make the game has endless surprise moments.
Imaging the game that Survivors have BT and DS that activated on both hook, and Killers have Corrupt, Deadlock, Ruin. While giving them only single customized perk. The game would be more fair yes, but in long term the game will be extremely repetitive. This happens with HSH.
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Because you made a post comparing games.
Here are the numbers as it stands right now. Yes people are playing, but when you compare them to Dead by Daylight, it stomps all those numbers combined!
Like it's one thing to say DBD has a rather "simplistic" formula. Which people can agree with. The problem is when you start comparing it with games that no one is even talking about.
I used to be a die hard fan of Friday the 13th and I was angry and sad when the lawsuit deal came out. I actually did not care for Dead by Daylight at that point, because I felt it didn't have some of the interesting aspects that Friday did. However, once I got to play it more, I understood why it was different and why it is addictive and fun, and apparently so do the 105,052 people that still play it.
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Surely, surely, REsistance is dead?
You need to let that game go, man. It’s much better for your mental health. It’s a shame that game was supported so poorly, but it’s over now.
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I tried getting into ft13th but the amount of people who quit when they dont get to play as Jason put me off it.
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the pain.
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