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Atrocious Learning Curve For New Killers

I have been playing this game for a few days and have for the most part enjoyed it. I've been playing survivor with friends and with the help of some friendly randos, have been able to experience some thrilling moments. All this changes when I play killer. Every game I seem to be paired with experienced survivors with all four perks equipped plus items to spare. Their experience alone seems to tip the balance of the game but add their perks and advantages and it seems hopeless for a new killer like me trying to gain experience.

Survivors at least get the benefit of relying on more experienced players, and can be carried to some extent, but killers have no such luxury. I wish there was a game mode that limited perks so as to keep the advantages to a minimum. I feel it would be a great way to reinforce fundamental game play mechanics without inundating players with too much information.

Comments

  • awustzdn
    awustzdn Member Posts: 320

    The learning curve for killer is extremely steep, yes. The only remedy is experience. Honestly, what helped me get better when I was new was watching youtube videos of experienced killers and what they do, particularly Otzdarva, since he will often comment on his thought process mid-game or explain something.

  • zombitehdeath
    zombitehdeath Member Posts: 587

    Welcome to dbd mmr where they put new player near experience player for no reason other then “calibrating” which isn't needed if they just put all player whose starting playing dbd on the lower end.

    I doubt they would make another game mode since they haven't perfected the main game mode which hasn't been directly changed for a long time.

  • VikingDragonXii
    VikingDragonXii Member Posts: 2,885

    We all have been there, my best suggestion would be to keep playing. Play each killer and find the ones that you can really mesh with. Also if you can record your games, besides always having video evidence incase of a hacker or harrassment, you can watch them over and see any mistakes you might of made or what you can improve upon. You might not notice them mid chase or while your playing. Try to avoid any of the technical killers like spirit, wraith and nurse. I might suggest the good Doctor as his powers have a very little learning curve and he is always fun to play IMO

  • GuyFawx
    GuyFawx Member Posts: 2,027

    ideally you want this because it speed up your adaption rate

  • Myla
    Myla Member Posts: 1,551

    The road is riddled with obstacles but persist and with experience....the road will still be riddled with more obstacles lmao.

  • burt0r
    burt0r Member Posts: 4,160

    And at the end of the road is a swf omega squad waiting for the killers lunch money XD

  • landromat
    landromat Member Posts: 2,193

    This game is unbearable for the killer atm. Even players with 5k hours struggle a lot. Just play survivor

  • Leatherface1990
    Leatherface1990 Member Posts: 718
    edited November 2021

    Survivors are DCing like crazy KILLERS have it easy in a 3V1.

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 9,220

    If you compare a new survivor vs a new killer the killer has it better.

    Also this game demands hundreds of hours to learn and thousands to master.

  • EvilJoshy
    EvilJoshy Member Posts: 5,295

    Sadly bhvr does not care about killer because theyre the minority. If you can please 4 of your 5 customers, from a business point of view, it makes sense. They only throw killer a bone when there are hardly any left and thats only because survivors cant find a match.

  • Kurri
    Kurri Member Posts: 1,599

    As someone who put in the work to learn how to play Survivor and Killer - this is true. I had to put in so much more time learning Killer, and every killer than I ever did for Survivor. With the old ranking system I took 1 day learning survivor and got rank 1 in a week. I took several weeks learning killer and get rank 1 at some point during all that time. The worst part of it all, it's just so much more stressful.

  • Rey_512
    Rey_512 Member Posts: 1,620

    No biggie, just master these “few killer tricks”. 😂

  • dugman
    dugman Member Posts: 9,713

    Yeah, I suspect there are two reasons for this. One is that DbD is a bit of an older game now so its playerbase will tend to have a higher ratio of experienced to new players. Second is that the matchmaking system sets your initial rating kind of in the middle, I think, when you first start and then as survivors escape it goes down and as they die it goes up. Finally killer is probably the harder role in general simply because you’re the one that has to actively find and hit the opponent in a chase. So until you develop some basic skill in finding and chasing and hitting survivors they can just hide and do generators when you’re not around, and doing the generators is pretty straightforward. Likewise once a survivor figures out how to vault reliably they have an edge on the new killer in a chase until the killer gets a bit better and routing around vaults. And finally every killer’s ability is unique, so every time you play a new killer you have to learn that too.


    All that said personally I only play killer because I think it’s a lot more fun than survivor. 🙂 Survivors have quite a bit of downtime where either you’re just holding a button to do skill checks on a generator or unfortunately downed or on a hook. Killers have much less downtime, you’re always actively dong something - even outside of a chase you’re actively looking for survivors and planning where to go. Plus I play solo and killer is the more natural solo role.

    Anyway good luck! 🙂

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    The game used to have a hard entry for survivors and a easy one for killers. That progressively changed the higher the rank of both sides.

    Which looked something like this:

    Low ranks = killer>survivors

    Mid ranks = killer=survivors

    High ranks = killer<survivors

    Now it looks like survivors are the dominant role, even in low ranks.

    Interesting

  • SunsetSherbet
    SunsetSherbet Member Posts: 1,607

    My honest opinion is the devs do not want players to main killer. They want you to main survivor and then maybe once every 5 to 10 games you'll play a killer game to do a challenge in the archive or to clear out your daily rituals which are oddly killer weighted. If people main killer that's an issue for queues due to the 4v1 nature. So it would be better for them if people just were survivor mains and only touched killer for a now and then challenge. I think the balance clearly reflects this as has numerous interviews with the devs.

  • Kurri
    Kurri Member Posts: 1,599

    Which we can tell what that's already causing. Killers just doing their challenges then going afk the rest of the match.