Just delete leathernoob already

Pig players are worse.

I love Bubba <3

bubbas are delicate creatures and if u do just ONE thing to make them mad then they do this. its like pissing off a bull.

sorry you got camped but camping bubbas are hilarious after a certain point. you'll get there eventually.

shout outs to the insidious agitation iron grasp monstrous shrine basement bubbas out there.

Haha wrong

Ah yes, I remember a match where a bubba camped the hook and my teammates camped bubba instead of doing gens.

They didn't see the problem or the irony.

You should feel honoured to be camped by our Lord and saviour Bubba.

Sometimes this is true. Unfortunately this strategy with a Bubba in solos is almost a guaranteed 3k If not a 4k. Bubba downs and camps first person. They rush gens. Bubba downs and camps second person. Gens finish. Bubba finds at least a third survivor with Noed and camps them. Especially effective if he has No way Out, and Remember Me.

Realistically what can an average solo group do against that? Hell the average swf would probably struggle. I'm not saying Bubba needs a nerf, but dismissing it as an issue caused by survivors is hardly a fair assessment.

It's not easy for him to chase, it's easy for him to camp someone to death guaranteed once they're downed. He usually gets better results doing that than chasing like normal, because 1 bump and you're stunned forever, or 1 window and you can't do anything. If they could just make his camping not so effective and his general chase actually effective, that would be great.

Those people are shooting themself in the foot. They keep getting stronger survivors without actually getting better themself.

They keep cheesing kills untill they face survivors that know how to deal with it. And suddenly they are a low experienced killer that is stuck in high mmr.

And those are the people that come here to the forums to yell out how impossible killer is.

Camping and tunneling are valid strats which sometimes are necesarry. But overly relying on them is going to bite you in the butt sooner or later

Genuinely surprised people are actually defending leatherfacecamping.

One player is being denied from playing the game, and how? By their opponent doing nothing. All they have to do is exist within a space of 5 meters of the hook, and that survivor is guaranteed dead. They’re supposed to just to spend another 2 minutes waiting, knowing full-well that anyone coming in for the save is dead as well.

And why? Because the Bubba got salty and has to express their fictional superiority over the other player, who may not even have had anything to do with it. Or because they genuinely enjoy it, though I’ll never understand why. Or just because they’re creatures that revel in the unwarranted creation of salt. With exception of the middle one, I’d actually call that toxic. Buzzword, I know, but honestly? I’m so goddamn sick of this.

”Do gens” Ah, yes, let me do gens from the basement from a crusty meathook. I am totally content with getting 7k BP at most on an already BP-starved role. I will always get teammates that know what’s going on and won’t try to fruitlessly bait out the Bubba.

And there’s absolutely nothing I can do beyond that first chase. It doesn’t even matter where I go down. He can do it anywhere. Hell, he doesn’t even need to hook me. And even if I do get hooked, I can’t suicide, ‘cause then Bubba has more time to go after others. “Just tab out”, I hear you say? Yeah, no, that really shouldn’t be necessary.

Also, it’s just 2 minutes. Unless y’all got BNP’s and Prove Thyself, that’s not even all that long. He will find another survivor, and will down them, and will sentence them to watching a 3D screenshot for 2 minutes as well. If he doesn’t, he’s actually just a poor player. More often than not, he’s really not, though. It’s just way too easy for him to do, and actually get results from it as well.

Aaaaand the current meta makes playing killer feel like being facecamped by Bubba, every trial. So, how do you reconcile that? Oh, make the game fair. Tile generation, genspeeds, and second chance perks ruin this game, not killers.

Also, as an aside, they're not guaranteed dead. You can save someone from being facecamped with: BT + DS + Deliverance + Lucky Break or Dead Hard.

You don't have to be ashamed of it, but you must understand that if you're fully behind being irrational, then you are against reason, and if you're against reason, then every argument you make should become invalid. For your arguments to work, we have to have a common understanding of what things are and aren't. Some arguments make sense, and others don't. If you're saying that making sense doesn't matter, then even your own arguments can't make sense. Irrationality is a quandary, to be sure.

Nah, just the part where you thought people should be banned. Because in a different context your argument is equally effective, in that playing killer at the moment feels a lot like being facecamped by bubba. So, I'm not really sure how to reconcile that, because for you, it happens occasionally, whereas for killers it's almost every match.

To elaborate a little more, do you think it's fair that most killers right now feel like there's nothing they can do to progress because they're being punished by the balancing in the game? How would you feel about facecamping if you found out it was being done more often because of the way the game is currently balanced?

Nah, nothing feels better than beating a Bubba with this playstyle

I’m not upset, I’m despondent. It’s been literal years since I’ve been upset at any game for longer than half an hour. I cannot bring myself to stop caring, however, ‘cuz then I stop caring about even playing the game, which I don’t want to.

I “waste” my energy for it because I’m not the only one. Leatherfacecampers aren’t in every game, sure, but I’ve had 3 in a row last week. As an average survivor, I shudder to think what the lower ranks are like, who are utterly powerless against it. They don’t know about the venus survivor trap that is Insidious Bubba. They don’t know that doing gens is really the only option. And for them, there’s a very real chance the Bubba gets the 4k by sheer chase-to-down speed.

It’s the game’s design, yes. But what I’m saying is that it shouldn’t be. Moris were also just “the tools provided”, but we all know how ######### those were.

See, that’s the peculiar thing. I’m at the point where I can probably call myself a killer main, yet I rarely have such games. Being facecamped, or at least, having a facecamper in the game is actually more common for me than me being genrushed.

Yeah, I see what you're saying. It's terrible game design and many people use it for EZ wins or if they got salty, they know they can 100% confirm a kill. Bubba is perfect for avenging his salt.

And definitely right about the low ranks. My sister barely plays this game, she's as low as MMR can be and if it weren't for me informing her ahead of time before she began playing this game, she'd been toast but her low MMR team falls for it. She's usually the hatch escapee in that situation. She feels bad for the person getting camped but she is smart enough to just do gens when she realizes there's a mysteriously random chainsaw sound coincidentally followed by a teammate downed in the basement by the hooked survivor. So there's 4ks. A lot of them in low ranks with Bubba. Not a very good experience for the new player who is learning the game and is vibing and Bubba just... face camps them to death.