Was MMR a good addition to DbD?

It would be if they went all the way and made MMR number public and try to make the game competitive ready.

It's unambiguously better than basing it off the emblem system, and introducing it was a good idea. It still needs some tweaks, though- I'd probably suggest a further softening of MMR loss if you get good emblem score/bloodpoints gain, so you don't get punished fully for doing well and losing at the last second.

Outside of a few edge cases, this system is definitely a little better than what we had before, which was really bad.

No because it's a game balanced around low to average players.

You also have less skilled players escaping, and higher skilled getting 1 hooked. So you have a bunch of survivors who don't want to play solos because no one cares about each other because it doesn't affect their MMR. So you have more survivors only wanting to play in teams. Which mixed with their low MMR from solo queue games, they stomp low level killers.

Then you have a bunch of killers at high MMR, because of the way killer MMR works. Which means even more killers going against the best of the best SWFs and getting stomped, and this will happen for multiple games in a row before their MMR dips to a Level they're supposed to be at. And then after 3-4 games of getting 2-3k they're right back up there and have to repeat the process.

Which is why there's longer queue times, more people getting frustrated and leaving the game, and more killers just going afk all match. And despite what most people think, most killers don't want to just stomp babies. In fact it gets really boring and we hate it. But we also don't want to play against Oracle each match.

It's created this unhealthy state of the game where killers don't want to play, solo queue is a nightmare, and SWFs rule it all in easy mode.

They either need to go back to a more casual match making system, or start balancing around the higher tiers of play. Otherwise it's just gonna be this same state for a long time.

It is way better than Ranks.

The old emblem system encouraged interesting and risky gameplay the new MMR system Only takes into account whether you killed or survived. Survivor who hid and creeped around the map all game and survived =a win. A survivor who looped the killer for a few gens and pallet stunned a few times and then gets caught and face camped till death= loss. Watch the videos, watch the data mining, he’ll watch the Q&A with behavior that is really how the MMR is. They trick everyone with the blood point reward system making everyone think that nothing has changed and hide your mmr. What are we working towards? A grade that resets every month just as a prize for winning that anyone who play the game enough can achieve

I wanted to get a lot of playtime with the system before coming to my conclusion and after many many many games, I have decided that in my opinion - MMR is not a good addition.

Now, I have a lot of hours in this game and I would consider myself experienced but I wouldn't call myself 'good' but I always tried to have a good time win or lose by doing other things in the match; be it sacrificing myself so people get out, altruism, running meme builds so on and so forth but all of it just feels pointless when the game grades my 'skill' by if I escape or if I die. It makes doing anything other than holding M1 and dragging out chases as much as possible the only way to be 'good' at this game

Why care? You might ask - well I often find that when I try to have fun by running off-meta perks, or by not focusing on gens when I'm not being chased the game punishes me heavily for it.

MMR makes Altruism feel almost pointless, many many times I've tried to be altruistic - I die and the system goes "welp u died guess you're bad lol"

Even then I still get put with Blight/Nurse players who burn Macmillan offerings EVERY single game, who run the best addons, 4 slowdowns and play like it's a tournament. It's akin to 4 man SWFs burning Badham and bringing 4 strong medkits and 4 meta perks. Those two SHOULD be facing each other but they don't.

I'm not gonna throw tons and tons of games just to drop my MMR or make smurf accounts like some people are doing, that's pathetic.

mixed blessing.

The game wasn’t ready for it and the devs rushed it through anyways one of the biggest blunders

I'm not a fan. I'm not being matched with players of equal skill. My swf teammate and I are getting matched with players that previously would've been low rank because they play poorly - either by bad decisions or just hiding most of the match.

SBMM encourages game play that the emblem system punished. Camping at 5 gens and hiding for the match in old system were punished. While you could come across those play styles in higher ranks it was less likely because it would cause you to lose pips. SBMM instead rewards those playstyles while punishing those that don't play that way.

Can even tell by the scores at the end that it is not good match making - previously would've said matchmaking is broken because while emblem system wasn't perfect it still encouraged better gameplay to reach certain ranks and your scores would be fairly even if someone didn't quit/get tunneled. Now you're just matched with either people that recently died or recently escaped depending on your last match so the players that actually try are being matched with those that hide causing these noticeable differences in BP. Killer will get a 4k - teammate and I will have 15k+ BP while our teammates that were not tunneled/camped out will have less than 10k BP or even 5k/less because they weren't doing anything aside from hiding, losing chases, or leading the killer to others. There are times where we died but teammates escaped and it's same thing - we have 15k+ BP but the teammates that escaped had less than 10k.

We run into way more survivors working with the killer. Killer works with them to kill the team and let's them escape so they both increase in MMR. Fun match for those two but unfun match for rest.

Dying we get stuck in deathloop until either get decent teammates or killer that's trying to drop mmr. With the old emblem system if I died multiple matches in a row it didn't feel bad if I had good teammates. The only times it felt bad was when matchmaking gave me teammates it shouldn't have (like it feels now), I had teammates working with killer, or we had a killer that just tunneled me out. The 50/50 escapes/deaths aren't feeling good. My deaths don't feel deserved when I see the end game BP that justifies my thoughts that my teammates were useless. Escaping doesn't feel good when I've been stuck in a deathloop and the killer I get matched with isn't good. I'd rather a good team and good killer, not this crappy mishmash we have now.

Ultimately it's made this game WAY less fun. My swf teammate and I will play maybe 3-5 matches and then switch over to For Honor (thanks dbd crossover for introducing us) - we end up only playing DBD a couple times a week because it's just miserable experience with SBMM. We play hoping maybe it'll be better but it's not. I miss the old emblem/rank system.

Couldn’t agree more. I think people don’t really understand how the sbmms works. It’s literally escapes and kills. I have been playing this game forever and reached rank one fast every reset on old emblem system. I know the game well and now I’m being matched with people hiding in the corners of the map and literally urban evading every where. They run away when they hear chase music instead of finishing a really important or close to done Gen not realizing that the killers tunnel vision chasing someone else. These have got to be new players or just really crappy teammates. But if they escape off the hard work of their teammates the system rewards them. Old rmblem system was better. Rewarded good gameplay/ interesting game play. Same for killers tunneling and camping is now rewarded whereas before you were punished

To be honest, I'm not really sure. Matches seem to feel fairer I guess. Although, it's still kind of inconsistent. Not quite sure of how I feel about it yet.