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DBD has a Hacking problem and BHVR still decided to have it for free on Epic.

Every Hacker is laughing his ass of right now. A Hacker said that it takes like at least 2 weeks of obvious hacking for them to get banned. They get banned they would have to get over the paywall but now every hacker could just make 5 epic account (OR ANY AMOUNT OF EPIC Games account)and get DBD there.

Nice One BHVR. Maybe solve your hacking problem first before getting that fortnite money from Epic? I guess you guys are so spooked by VHS then huh?

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  • Tr1nity
    Tr1nity Member Posts: 5,047

    Probably to sell better on the Epic games

    store.

    Avout hackers, they probably use the tactic of “If I ignore it, it doesn’t exist”

  • Superyoshiegg
    Superyoshiegg Member Posts: 1,490

    Both BHVR and Epic are well aware that a very small minority would willingly choose to purchase and play a game on EGS over Steam when given the option, so they had to do something to incentivise doing so.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,077

    Eh...I honestly don't know what the answer to the hackers is.

    On one hand, EAC is a complete joke. It's so easy to bypass that even modders include how-to's with their mods.

    On the other hand, I look at a lot of other full-on Esports with crazy expensive anti-cheats still getting swarmed with hackers, and I'm not sure what BHVR can do.

    PC gaming hacks are so damn sophisticated now, and are big money. I mean, if you are willing to shell out $80 or so a month, you can get a hacking suite for nearly any game you can think of.

  • odra
    odra Member Posts: 369

    actually I played survivor today and got pig cheating with reverse bear trap, so after 10s into game you will died since they play with video tape addon, sucks though since i need to complete survivor quest already meet twice in 4 games

  • SkerpiTwitch
    SkerpiTwitch Member Posts: 327

    i encountered a hacker yesterday, but it was only after i hooked him that he started to hack. He chenged his healthstates when he was hooked. it was stupid to see. anyway, the worst part of dbd today is the hacks that you dont see, and they are everywhere.

  • zarr
    zarr Member Posts: 1,022

    One thing I imagine they could do is implement advanced analytics. It may be difficult to detect cheat software itself, but it should be trivial to detect the effects of certain cheats in the game. Speedhacks, gen progression hacks, attack cooldown hacks, hacks to hit survivors across the map, all at once, to kill everyone instantly, hacks to blind killers on command and indefinitely, to go from hooked to unhooked 10 times within a second, all of this type of stuff can quickly be identified just by having some intelligence in the game that can distinguish between things that are physically possible according to game rules and mechanics, and those that are not. A survivor is running at 4.1m/s or a killer at 4.7? There's nothing in the game that could allow for that to happen. Mark them for a ban. And that's obviously just a simple example where no extra intelligence is needed to make that call, just something to monitor movement speeds.

    They wouldn't necessarily have to instantly ban on the grounds of something physically impossible happening of course, sometimes bugs could cause them to happen. Depends on the amount of intelligence in the detection system too, but either way they could mark the players, and if it happens more than 3 times or whatever, then ban them. Or they could simply mark them for further inspection.

  • Jago
    Jago Member Posts: 1,742

    Hmm no I think it's free to grab it fpr a week.

    Which means hackers can create multiple accounts during this week ... "Just in case "

  • RoaderFrost
    RoaderFrost Member Posts: 170

    Why banning for speed hack? Just apply permanent hinder by 50% untill trial ends. That would work and make cheating useless with any amount of accounts.

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    Can't botters just grab all the free accounts and free copies of the game and then wait until that period is over to do all the cheating? To my understanding, it's not "DBD will have a free trial on Epic Game Store." It's "DBD will be eligible for you to keep for free forever on Epic Game Store."

  • RoaderFrost
    RoaderFrost Member Posts: 170

    We need some system that will automatically detect and remove any unfair benefits that player somehow got.

    They see auras when they shouldn't? - ability to see any auras removed for one trial, if effect persists (guess it wasn't a bug) double the time for the penalty, again? - double it again. Like with current DC and leaving a game.

    So on with speed, healing, etc.

    Any items must have unique ID from where it originates. Taken by some player at the start, crafter in lockers, found in chest... if Id doesn't exist just make him drop item and forbid usage.

    Player teleports from one locker to another? - make him enter the locker with 3 minutes long animation with idle caws :)

    And of course logs of such events.

  • gilgamer
    gilgamer Member Posts: 2,209

    Yeah, that doesn't change the fact that there will be an influx of hackers because it's a free week. I remember never running into blatant hackers in R6 siege until they held a free weekend then I ran into multiple in a day and they were way better about banning their hackers so I can only imagine how many are gonna crop up during a whole week of zero consequences.

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    It sounds like you are saying that they need a better anti-cheat system than what they currently have. Which I do agree with. :P

  • GeneralV
    GeneralV Member Posts: 11,568

    DBD really needs a better anti-cheat.

  • Buckoben
    Buckoben Member Posts: 359

    So instead of addressing OP's concerns you come in here to advertise.

    You guys are terrible at reading the room. Can you guys please do better.

  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Member, Administrator, Mod Posts: 17,905

    I'm not advertising anything, I pointed out the game will be free for a week and not free to play endlessly.

  • Underdawg
    Underdawg Member Posts: 193

    OP didn't post concerns. They mocked. OP wrote six sentences, and five of them were blatantly insulting BHVR. Rizzo gave the thread actual intelligent context - DBD isn't permanently free on EPIC. A mistake that anyone who was only hearing about this for the first time on this thread might make.

    Seriously, take a chill pill folks.

  • Yords
    Yords Member Posts: 5,781

    BHVR is giving me "There is no war in Ba Sing Se" vibes

  • Brokenbones
    Brokenbones Member Posts: 5,193

    While it's not permanently free on epic, it is permanently free to keep for the accounts that claim it

    BHVR doing this, in the midst of the game being riddled with cheaters is so tone deaf. They acknowledged the DDOS issue but no acknowledgement of the rampant cheaters?

    What's it going to take to get an answer, BHVR? Is the game going to need to be filled with EVEN MORE cheaters to the point where your support team simply can't handle it anymore?

    I predict with this free epic thing - we are going to see the amount of cheaters triple overnight. I hate to be pessimistic, as I always try to think the best but this is just ridiculous.

  • asirirsprime
    asirirsprime Member Posts: 100

    OP is a customer and he is absolutely right.

    I say it again - remember what happened to another game on egs store, gta5. Their servers got full of cheaters for a half of a year with that week gift game.

    And their anti cheat system works way way better than current DBD.

    30 Artist coming? I’m sure we will see plenty of “fun” stuff that will make everyone forget what was the new update about.

  • Friendly_Blendette
    Friendly_Blendette Member Posts: 2,923

    Do you know how many alt account you can make in a week? stockpile them for months hell maybe even sell the accounts.