¿Is it really hard to play killer side or the main killers are just dramatizing a lot?

Play killer its hard whethever you kill the whole sfw ream its 4vs1 of equal skill but too umbalance mechanics and perks, anyway i only loose with survs when they betray me and leads the killer to my position, this last sentence repeat frecuently on this days.

I think it's not nearly as hard as players make it out to be. "Gen rush" games are a series of misplays and bad decisions the vast majority of the time. An unfortunate aspect of MMR being hidden is that these types of players are also immune to any form of coaching or constructive criticism. If you're not having a hard time winning games, your hidden MMR number can't possibly be as high as theirs.

Killer role? No

High MMR killer role? Yes

I'd say most people disagreeing are having easier games as killer and "think" they're playing at high MMR when they're not.

4v1 and balance are not mutually exclusive things.... what? in what world can you not have balance in a asymmetrical game ? Maybe if you think there has to be a 50% chance or equal odds of winning for both sides. Sure that might not be reasonable.

Also so what part of this being a video game makes complaining invalid? what is this L take ? So i dont understand you have to either unconditionally love something or hate it unconditionally ? Can i not like cake but complain that it makes me fat? and still eat it and still complain about it ? I dont even know what ur trying to say .........

yes it is a game, and people have different levels of passion about the game. deal with the fact that people do care differently XD

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but bro XD just dont care about it. Get destroyed and keep queing bro. If you don't like it well find another game bro. asymmetrical games don't need balance LOL . I'm always getting 4k's and 3k's but when i play survivor then its the real hardmode. Right? Right? Its a game if you don't enjoy it just leave.

dude i love this attitude.

Sarcasm dialed up to 11.

It can definitely be difficult the better your opponents are, and there are problematic things left in the game that can skew the odds of matches significantly, such as certain maps and items/add-ons, but then again, that goes for both roles. Good killer players win the majority of their public matchmaking matches relatively comfortably and decisively day in and day out and have for years (you know, throughout the years where killer gameplay was objectively in many ways in a worse spot than it is today), and even in tournaments killers perform perfectly well - 4ks happen frequently, the average kills are slightly above 2, with the strongest killers even averaging around 3. In fact just today there was the first round of an "everything allowed" tournament (think 4 DH 4 DS 4 Styptics etc.), and kills averaged out to 2.3.

The game is far more balanced than many people here and elsewhere make it out to be or want to believe, and the outcome of matches is in fact very dependent on player skills. People don't seem to like that idea because then they have to accept that they maybe just aren't good enough, but that's unfortunate because shouldn't gaming precisely be about looking to improve and enjoying precisely that improving process? That's the most gratifying, rewarding thing about competitive games. Back in the earlier days of competitive gaming the mentality of "gamers" was different, people would not usually blame game creators for a game being too "difficult" or complain that a game should be changed to make it "easier", it was more accepted that people need to practice, improve, get better, that people should first and foremost concentrate on honing their skills. DbD as an asymmetric competition is of course a special game format, but nonetheless that DbD does reward skills a lot is just an obvious, objective, observable fact - how else do we explain that on the one hand there exist players like many of those on these forums, that complain that the game is unplayably difficult and impossibly stacked against them as killer, yet on the other, players that prove day after day, year after year, that they can dominate as killer in around 80-90% of their matches? Or how else do we explain that in tournaments, there are and have for years been specific teams of survivor and killer players that have been hugely disproportionally successful - are they just consistently more lucky than other players? Of course not, they're more skilled, and that affects outcomes consistently.

That said, I do believe SWF is a glaring balance issue that of course only really affects the killer side of that equation negatively. It has to be kept in mind that actual 4-SWF teams only make up around 5% of the total player pool, and that of those 5%, even less are on voice comms, let alone all super good at the game and trying super hard and such. But still, nerfs for SWF are long overdue, the game blatantly has not been balanced in mind with the idea of voice communications and the coordination of builds and strategies that SWF groups can produce. I also think various killer characters should long have been buffed, quite a few of them are just objectively and strikingly subpar compared to some of the stronger killers, and I see no reason why they shouldn't be brought up to snuff. That doesn't at all mean those weaker killers are not "viable" however - every single killer is absolutely viable in public matchmaking, even at high MMR. Personally I play lots of killer, face lots of good and experienced opponents, and still average between 2 and 3 kills, and that despite often playing lower-tier killers and often refraining from camping and tunnelling (the most effective killing strategies). 2ks are entirely feasible even with the weakest killer (Legion) against the majority of random groups if you camp and tunnel, and you can even regularly get 4ks. Sometimes I play perkless Legion and try hard to 4k to challenge myself, here are two from today:

I think you're wrong. Why should it not affect certain killers? good and coordinated swf are prepared for every killer they may play against.

Yes to both

I consider myself the host. I just go with the flow and never DC even if I am getting beat. I do not even run gen slowdown and open doors if they power the gates. Faster matches are a good thing and I still kill plenty of teams before they can escape. Blood points either way.

Againts SWF its challenging. But againts randoms its really easy as a walk in the park.

Honestly? For sure it's over dramatised by killers nowadays. I ain't saying things are balanced or perfect but killers are crying about anything these days tbh.

So I started as a killer main, I only play Solo Survivor now mostly.

As solo survivor I escape more than half my matches. I don't even need to rely on my "team". So at low ranks where survivors are new or don't play properly killer is definitely the dominant role. As you climb ranks that distinction falls away very quickly so that survivors are the dominant role.

I say this because it's 4v1. The game was supposedly designed as a horror game where you had to work together to have a chance to survive, and I believe that is how it should be. But now 4 survivors get 16 perks to use together and the meta is second chance perks. They continue to add more and more objectives for killers to occupy them and survivors still only need to do gens. This makes it so if you have a top tier killer and 4 top tier survivors playing, the survivors have the advantage from the start.

While this is a 4v1 "horror" game when you're new or don't know what you're doing; it becomes a 4v1 bully/troll the killer game once you know what you're doing. All because the majority of people playing are survivors and don't want a challenge (I'm a little annoyed that the game has been reduced to the state it's in).

If your teammates go down quickly, are reluctant to stay on gens, consistently fail skill checks, run into the killer, rush to save before the killer leaves, waste a second chance status, or hides in a bush while wearing neon; your not at the mmr level killer's are talking about.

Killers surpass that rating far quicker than survivors do because of that inefficiency and it's the competent teams that their complaints are referrincing.

Killer is pretty balanced right now. I don't really think it's as hard as some people here say. I usually do much better as killer than survivor 😆

I play both roles a lot I find it boring just to play one when you solo survivor it’s grand you have a challenge and is fair. When you end up playing high mmr as killer your games become insanely sweaty. Swfs are a problem for killer at high level of play. I also feel they need to buff some killers and nerf some survivor perks like iron will, prove thyself and the boons 🤷🏻‍♂️👍