We're Gonna Live Forever needs a buff

@Wolf74 said:
Did I ignore it? I am not sure, but at some point I always quit repeating myself, because I can't explain it again and again. I only repeat myself over and over and you always go back to you original nonsense.
And anytime I am done, you proclaim yourself the winner.
We have been through that 3 times now and I am sure you will bring it again more times.
Maybe I should just save my answer so that I can repost it every time you bring that crap up.
(1 survivor heals another for 16 seconds = 2 survivor have not done objectives for 16 seconds; 2x16 = 32 seconds vs 1 survivor heals himself for 32 seconds = 1 survivor has not done objectives for 32 seconds; 1x32 = 32)

Partystreamer (and anything that increase BPs) is an OFFERING.
Anybody can use them along his regular loadout.
It's not a PERK.
Don't compare apple with oranges.

If one survivor heals> @Wolf74 said:

@SenzuDuck said:

@Wolf74 said:
How did you post relates to the topic?
You just try to talk against me, just for the sake of being against me?
Still mad, because showed you that your wrong in another thread?
Stop embarrassing yourself and stop harassing me. Your boring.

"Bloodpoints affects balance"
"Bloodyparty streamers only affect bloodpoints"

"but how does that have anything to do with this"

But once again, the breakdown reply I gave you of why selfcare benefits killers seems to be have ignored by you twice now, so you can't defeat it, that's embarrassing.

If you're bringing it up again, I'll ask you again - would you rather a survivor be healed in 16 seconds or 32? I'm curious, you refuse to answer this, why?

Did I ignore it? I am not sure, but at some point I always quit repeating myself, because I can't explain it again and again. I only repeat myself over and over and you always go back to you original nonsense.
And anytime I am done, you proclaim yourself the winner.
We have been through that 3 times now and I am sure you will bring it again more times.
Maybe I should just save my answer so that I can repost it every time you bring that crap up.
(1 survivor heals another for 16 seconds = 2 survivor have not done objectives for 16 seconds; 2x16 = 32 seconds vs 1 survivor heals himself for 32 seconds = 1 survivor has not done objectives for 32 seconds; 1x32 = 32)

Partystreamer (and anything that increase BPs) is an OFFERING.
Anybody can use them along his regular loadout.
It's not a PERK.
Don't compare apple with oranges.

What do the numbers you post prove? That it takes 32 seconds for someone to heal and 16 seconds for someone to heal another?

16 seconds of someone healing another they can both then be on a gen together for 16 seconds = 32 seconds of a gen at a faster rate, I don't get what point you're trying to make loooool.

So? Party streamers affect bloodpoints only, just like WGLF, except WGLF uses a perk slot and thus is way more detrimental to someone to use, if we compare it to a survivor cake, (which only one survivor can use) does that make the game more unbalanced, does that player have some kind of extra benefit in the match? No, it has nothing to do with balance.

BBQ is the easiest to use bloodpoint perk in the game, it comes with an added benefit & killers earn more points than survivors if they do well anyway, I guess we better nerf BBQ because all those bloodpoints are clearly impacting the game.

@Wolf74 said:

@SenzuDuck said:

What do the numbers you post prove? That it takes 32 seconds for someone to heal and 16 seconds for someone to heal another?

16 seconds of someone healing another they can both then be on a gen together for 16 seconds = 32 seconds of a gen at a faster rate, I don't get what point you're trying to make loooool.

And we are at that point again. Math 101 failed. I'm done again.

Clearly not, you keep stating that if one person heals themselves they're off the gen for 1x32 seconds

If someone heals another person they're off the gen for for 2x16 = 32 seconds, but they also get to be on the gen for 2x16 seconds.

Again, you're completely missing the point, whether you lose someone, and they manage to lose you for THIRTY TWO SECONDS they deserve a heal.

Like, you're not finding that person again lmao.

I've never lost a match because of self care, you just need more excuses for not doing very well.

Self care, shake my head

all in all, I'd rather everyone be self caring instead of getting super quick 16 second heals. Imagine losing survivors so often you think self care is your issue.

I feel like there’s a lot of other perks that should be prioritized before WGLF.

Technician
 Detective’s Hunch
Lightweight 
No Mither
Hope
Resilience 
TINH

Surveillance
Monstrous Shrine 
Fire Up
Insidious
SFTS
Hex Third Seal
Territorial Imperative 

BBQ gives a functionality and BP, WGLF only gives BP. Anyone who thinks WGLF is somehow better just doesn't understand how the game works(Edit: I could see maybe if someone argued with the difference between survivors and killers, but still one does more than the other so it's kind of hard to argue the one that only does one thing (of relatively the same magnitude as well) is better). If WGLF had some kind of use other than BP then they'd be more on the same terms but currently BBQ is much better.

BBQ helps you win, WGLF doesn't.

Carpemortum said:

Wolf74 said:

@Carpemortum said:
Wolf74 said:

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What if the survivors connection "suck duck"? Should the killer be forced to stay?

If the survivor connection is crap, the killer doesnt suffer...its easier for them at that point. 

You wanna tell me that those lag-porting targets are easier?
Please elaborate how.
Because anytime I get that people they are almost impossible to hit, because they basically play like an Overwatch Tracer. :P

Well, first, if they're lagging that bad they cant get work done easily, and cant hide efficiently. Secondly, if theyre lag porting like when I see them(5/10 ft stutters into a wall), then follow the lag copy and hit it? First time I saw it happen I thought david was saving a hooked survivor. He just kept on skipping into the wall. Post game he accused me of lag switching lol.

That's exactly the problem. Sometimes I have survivors from NA, Thailand, Russia and Australia in the same lobby. While I sit in Europe. If I don't dodge them, I play against several nurses which on top of that accuse me of being a lag switcher. I have no interest in getting banned, because to many kids don't know how to read the ping meter and report me for lag switching. 

Also, cherry picking...
Why shouldn't killers be able to cherry pick, if survivors did exactly the same and got rewarded with SWF? 

" no scratch marks for 4 seconds at tier 3 level."
U S E L E S S

@Entità said:
Killer's perks deserve to be more powerful than survivors', so I accept BBQ has a secondary effect, that is to show far people' Auras, but WGLF should be more effective in giving extra BPs, that is its purpose: now it's too situational, it's improbable to reach four tokens every trial.

Two possible solutions, according to me:

1) every altruistic action (healing, protecting, bodyblocking, unhooking...) could be stackable, which means to add new actions able to give tokens;

OR

2) every stack could give 37,5% bonus, until a maximum of 150%, without including new actions useful to gain tokens.

I honestly couldn't agree more. That is legitimately what I was thinking about while scrolling down the replies.
We're going off topic since OP asked for some specific additional affect other than bloodpoints multiplication, but I agree on the fact that it kinda doesn't need it too much, if they were to do anything about hooks being better and more consistent, it shouldn't be anything perk related, that's the exact mistake that the game designers kept on doing for months: addressing some more or less important issues by introducing perks in the game that, only when ran, will help you out.

If something specific turned out to be a real issue in this game, say camping increased even on higher ranks and the entire survivors community started being truly sick of it and created threads over threads about it: in that circumstance the devs would likely do something along the lines of creating a Borrowed Time 2.0 or buff the existing one (either by reverting the changes the made around February or by introducing some different features on it), and I think that's a wrong choice, perks are already overly determinant in many situations, both the survivors' and the killers'; you should work directly on the killer's camping ability, since that is 0 skill and gives you too much and is definitely unfun and overpowered, rather than preserving the rot in the game and distributing nose springs by the perks.

WGLF should definitely get a perk with the points and needs to be restricted to safe hooks only.