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Part 2
While I am happy to see them buff 2 of deathslingers perks tremendously I am a bit said to read that theirs been no changes for the cowboy
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I am deeply unimpressed by part 2. Many of the perk changes don't address the fundamental issues with those perks (Furtive Chase, Buckle Up, Remember Me, Distortion) and therefore didn't make them worthwhile. There was no Legion or Ghostface rework. Nothing about CoH or Deathslinger. Nothing about faulty hit validation. And I'm pissed about the removal of all the Bubba masks because a vocal minority of players was complaining about one of them (and even then, most players agreed it would be better to change the masks, not nuke them entirely) and because it sidesteps the actual moderation problem of racist whackjobs not being removed in a timely fashion.
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I thought for sure there was gonna be some killer reworks but guess i set my expectations too high.
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I agree completely it also blows my mind that they buffed pig (not saying she didn't need it she did)
But nerfed clown like what are you thinking?
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I agree I was hoping for the gf or legion rework or at the least a tr revert for the slinger but ig I was hoping for too much
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The buff for the perks won't make them more used I think. But it's nice to see buffs.
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Or Wake Up being a counter to Remember Me.
Use a terrible perk that is marginally useful if the Killer is running one specific perk that is also terrible. Brilliant.
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Eh, I'm not too bothered by the nerf to Pinky Finger. I dislike that killer addons have lately been getting weaker and less impactful, but Pinky Finger is super easy to backrev, more or less.
The addon changes were a mixed bag. Iridescent Umbrella Badge desperately needed what they did to it, but Iridescent Family Crest is still a pretty bad design that only helps you in situations you shouldn't be getting into. Wooden Fox is still just a bad idea and the favored Twins ones just chipped at a killer that already has negative QoL.
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Their solution to the Bubba face mask problem is barely going to have an impact. It wasn’t the masks that were the problem, it was the players.
Also did they seriously nerf Nemesis? No wonder we haven’t gotten any good buffs for him, they thought he needed nerfing. Like did any decent player think Marvin’s Blood actually needed a nerf at all?
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My reaction
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Same amigo same
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Oh I agree with the majority of other add on changes I just don't think clown needed a nerf and I'm sad to see no news on slinger,legion or gf
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One of the mods said that the second part doesn't contain all the changes we'll see in the PTB for tomorrow so let's hope for the best 🤞
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Yea this game is dying it's starting to fold to sensitive people even though it's a slasher game where you kill your opponents, It has nothing to do with the bubba masks for me it's just getting to a point where everything is complained about because the main problems have for the most part been addressed and now people have to dig deep to find something to ######### about it's annoying to play the game because most people are sore losers with only a few that are genuinely nice and fun to play with , just yesterday I was playing survivor and one of the other survivors who was trying to be toxic clicking and tbagging, hiding inside shack and immediately wasting god pallet on the killer who was oblivious he was even there ,got camped and then insulted the killer in the endgame chat I stuck up for the killer and told them not to be a twat if they didn't want someone to be one back and then I got insulted by him and his friend for not backing them up while they cursed a killer out for playing a damn video game it's just getting stupid these days the fun is gone for me, I love trolling as much as the next but I don't get salty when I lose because I knew the consequences if I was caught and it's just a game.
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I dunno, I expected nothing and got a pointless clown nerf and the soft deletion of Pinky Finger. I kinda wish we had the option to erase items in the bloodweb considering how many useless iridescent addons they tend to have.
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It just blows me away that they listen the complainers and remove bubba's mask when the wasn't even that many but yet the general majority agree deathslinger needs reverts and he's left untouched
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Im convinced they just want to kill the game and move on to a new project, soon enough bots will get added and this game will officially die, people can show steam charts all they want of the player base but that doesn't change that veterans are leaving and new players don't want to invest in the money or the grind to stick around long term this is just a slow sinking ship at the moment, I've literally got damn near 11,000 hours in this game and me and many others like me have been leaving the game in waves , I've probably played 2-3 times in the last two weeks for only like a hour and it still feels boring to me I really think it's time for me to hang it up and move on , too many crybabies getting catered to in this new era of DBD
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Disappointed.
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The devs have said CoH is fine and aren't looking to change it right now. Killers need to just get over it. I don't have much issue with it.
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Out of all the perks they could fix for survivors, Boil Over should not have been on their list.
They could have FIXED Distortion, instead they decided to give 1 more token. Tokens evaporate against some killer perks, so this is not enough. It isn't fair to have one aura revealing perk eat ALL of your perk's tokens in a matter of a few seconds.
Some really great improvements to killer perks. No surprise there. Gearhead let's you hunt down the most proficient survivors now, Dead Man's Switch let's you tunnel the survivor's that are hungry for unhooks, and both of those show you which gen they were working on, too.
I fully support their Bubba face mask decision. There is NO room for scumbags here.
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I'm glad they're removing ALL the masks for Bubba. Its only fair. I always said if they remove the claudett face, they need to remove all of them.
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I never stop a friend off for trash talking a killer who camped and tunneled. Being a killer main, I know there are better ways to get kills. Sometimes I won't rescue a random who had done nothing all game but chase the killer around clicking their flashlight. But I don't care if they bodyblock the killer
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This post right here is the toxicity that is killing the game ^^
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Why should you be okay with insulting someone just playing to have fun? I mean if you're going to be toxic then you can expect that behavior back, don't dish something out you aren't prepared to deal with yourself, nobody deserves to be insulted for trying to have fun and relieve stress in a game.
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Source for this statement where.
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So, to be clear:
"Buff Solo Survivors to compete with SWF, then we can balance killers around the higher level of opposition."
Part 1 - These are some buffs we're looking at for solo survivors, to help compete with SWF
Part 2 - Here are slight tweaks to a handful of bad addons and perks. There are no buffs to the killers themselves.
Funny how that "Do X then we can do Y" always seems to skip the Y part.
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And maybe teabgging and clicking flashlights is just as fun to them as a killer being a ashat and camping and tunneling. If my friend is telling a killer to harm himself or things like that yes I would say something. I just ignore the survivors who do those things because I know they want my attention. I go after someone else.
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When I play survivor, I also play just to chill and relax. But the camping and tunneling has gotten so out of hand I rarely play it anymore. Been a killer main for a year now and I find it much more fun.
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it seems like patch notes is clown nerf(clown now loses an add-on slot to use Cheap gin bottle add-on) and dead man switch going into meta-level killer builds further cementing gen defense blocking builds into complete meta. The rest of changes are filler. I'm curious if Boil over will see any use, it could be get used but likely its more of troll perk than a serious perk.
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Tbagging and flashlight clicking are fine I do it too occasionally, but if you're gonna play that way then if they decide to give that back you can't be mad and it definitely doesn't give you the right to curse them out and insult them because you were unable to troll successfully or bully the killer, nothing in game is toxic it's the endgame chat where people want to rage on the person they lost to that's a problem, they complain about getting camped and hit on hook but want to ignore everything they did to earn that treatment
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It's like that with literally every 2-part dev update, yet people still don't believe us when we say that they should wait with the praise until after part 2 releases.
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Ah, yes, extremely useful information.
What killers do you play? And what is your strategy for a match where 3-4 CoHs go up at the start before anyone does gens, or recurring CoH in RCPD library/Ironworks/Pantry/Thompson House? Be pretty interested to hear why it's not an issue for you, because from where I'm standing, it's double speed heals for the whole team, infinite brown medkits, a complete waste of time to try to keep on top of (and you only even have the illusion of keeping on top of it if there's just one player using it, otherwise playing whack-a-mole with all the totems would leave you no room to ever chase survivors) and playing a killer that relies on split pressure is suffering. Plague and instadowners uber alles - Wraith, Legion, and Twins sob in a corner.
I also take some issue with the whole camping/tunneling is equivalent to clicky clicky tbagging. I'll head this off with saying that camping and tunneling are extremely unfun and I don't like them. I avoid doing them unless survivors have managed to piss me off. But they have strategic purposes. A killer that does them is usually employing these tactics to win, and for them, winning is fun. Even if I don't share it, I can respect that mindset much more than I respect players who tbag and insult the killer in chat, because that breed of fun comes from upsetting another player - that's its purpose and point, not gaining a strategic advantage.
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I was expecting more map reworks, swamp is too ugly and haddonfield is hell
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Yeah sure, like always devs totally understand their games. Killer will not continue to left or not camp tunnel more cause of it. Competitors say thanks, easy when you kill your Own game to make noob enjoy the game, and move on to next project.
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