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Pop and ds
I seen people compare this two perks but imo i don't think they should really be compared
I think bt is a better example than ds since ds can only be used once per trial and pop can be used multiple times but same goes for bt it can be use multiple times.
I think a better example for ds is ruin since they can only be used once when used unless the killer has udying
Just thinking weird stuff
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They got compared when PGTW was nerfed (Timer reduced from 60 seconds to 45 seconds), simply because both have a timer.
This was the sole reason. And the wrong mentality of "When one side gets nerfed, the other side should get a Nerf as well".
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I mean yeah when one side gets nerfed the other shouldn't get a nerf neither just for that reason
But Ds and Pop are not equivalent in my opinion
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They are not. And comparing them based on the timer was nonsense. But players still did so.
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Why would people compare these 2 perks
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They did a while back and probably because of 2 reasons
1. Timer was 60 for both
2. Both require hooking
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What your take on my opinion now I'm not saying their equivalent 100% but they way more similar imo
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Actually, making DS 45" would be a reasonable nerf if they didn't put all those conditions to use it.
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Tit for tat thinking. Players looking at the game like politics.
‘If I have to lose something, they should lose something too.’ But they includes you, spiting yourself.
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The Pop nerf never should have happened. You weren't downing people after hooking and still having time to Pop the gen, unless the survivors gave you quick downs. That's the same thing that happens now, except now you can go on a super short chase with a survivor, just to get a hit or a pallet drop, and not make it back in time to Pop the gen. Meanwhile DS is at 60 seconds and can be used offensively. That's the cruel irony of the Pop nerf.
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Pop being nerfed from 60 to 45 back in the day isn’t justification for DS being nerfed. DS got nerfed (and rightfully so) later on for other reasons.
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And the similarities end there, lol
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Honestly, now it's restricted i think it would be fine for 2 hook states
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Poop nerf seemingly happened because the at that moment meta killers (Freddy, Nurse) had all the time in the world and could still touch a gen.
Reducing the timer by 15s didn't make it more stressfull for low mobility killers.
DS having 60s was fine back when it wasn't deactivating on doing gens.
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What, who needs comparison between those perks and when?
I mean Pop shouldn't get a nerf at all? like there is no problem in that perk?
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That's not why people wanted Ds nerfed too. They wanted Ds nerfed to that time because of the reasoning used to nerf pop.
A dev specifically stated that pop was nerfed because you had too much time to do other things while the perk was active.
The exact same could be said for ds at the time.
Ds has been nerfed differently to compensate, so all of this is now irrelevant.
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Honestly, if the devs had just kept their mouths shut about why they were lowering the duration of pop then no one would have brought up DS still being 60 secs. If they had just done it and never mentioned "60 secs is too long" then the topic could have been avoided. Ever notice the more info the devs give the dbd community, the more fuel they have to burn them? I feel comparing DS to pop wasn't even about the 60 secs. It was more about pointing out bhvr's incompetence when it comes to game balance.
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DS was being used as an offence tool to grief the killer, you had god mode for an entire 60 seconds.
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Neither of those sets of perks can really be compared. Honestly, contrasting survivor and killer perks...doesn't work, because survivor perks are invariably pretty simple and low risk/low yield, while killer perks are more complicated, high risk/high yield.
PGTW...didn't need a nerf. At all. Especially now that the PRAgi style exists as an alternative. But meh, it's still a solid perk on killers with traversal.
DS needed a nerf because it wasn't an anti-tunnel perk, it was a straight up extra life.
BT needed a nerf because it was absurd.
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